This_person
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Good job - so we have two polls that say opposite things. Both valid and good polling institutions.
I guess we're going to have to use our own thoughts.
So, are you leaning more towards science, or polls?
Polls also said that Clinton was easily going to win the Presidency.
And if this poll is correct theses good christian folks should march on DC and demand that this Republican Legislative Branch and or the Supreme Court repeal Roe-Wade..
By your definition a spontaneous miscarriage would be either suicide by the fetus or murder by the mother.
No matter how many strawman arguments you come up with a baby doesn't not have rights until it is viable without a physical connection the mother which is roughly 21 weeks.
That's the end of the story. Your definition of murder , abortion, baby, fetus are just wrong and until you accept that we can argue until we are blue in the face.
Not to mention as a man you don't get to decide what a woman does with her body.
All the insults in the world do not support you. Try taking something I said, and contradict it with facts. I'll wait.
Short term memory loss??
I did with you incorrect obama reference. I posted a page of his upbringing facts.
You deflected that you were talking about his father.
Why not, You have no problems equating abortion and murder..
Well, a hair belongs to the person having the same DNA, and is not a full human life-form. A baby has different DNA than the mother or father, and is a completely separate lifeform. That makes them different things.
Murder kills a separate human life. Both abortion and murder do that. That makes them the same.
Not following your thought process.
So, when Scott Peterson was convicted of murdering his unborn child, the state of California had it all wrong?
I was talking about his father. How is that a deflection?
Try yet again.
If it was Scott Peterson's fetus and he aborted it it would have been quite legal,
But it wasn't Scott Peterson's fetus or decision to make, it was Laci Peterson's decision and nobody else's to make . And you know that.
Ahhhh, no you weren't. You were talking about both of his parents and his Gparents.
I knew a guy who was an unwanted child born of a mother in a mixed-race relationship where the baby-daddy left early on and provided no support. The kid went from home to home with this unwed mother and her string of new boyfriends and husbands, moved him all over the place, until the maternal grandparents had to take control of the kid.
You know him too. As "President Obama".
Refer to Post # 70..And yes you change up when you are proved wrong..
But it wasn't Scott Peterson's fetus
If it was Scott Peterson's fetus and he aborted it it would have been quite legal,
But it wasn't Scott Peterson's fetus or decision to make, it was Laci Peterson's decision and nobody else's to make . And you know that.
So, the point being, if someone kills a fetus it is murder - as you said. Now that you can see it, we're simply picking nits about who the murderer is.
BTW, just for accuracy's sake, it was Scot Peterson's fetus, to the best of our knowledge.
Good try but that's not what i said at all, and you know that.
It was Laci's decision to terminate her pregnancy and no one else's.
NO it wasn't,,, It was Laci's fetus...
This is a classic case of "what difference does a minute make?" It really is essentially exactly the same thing. A baby was killed, period. For being inconvenient to the mother. The singular difference is whether or not the cord was cut.
lolz
Yet, ol' Scot was convicted of murder for killing it.
How does that work?
Becuase he wasn't the one carrying it. He doesn't get to decide what happens to it. We went over this already and you agreed a man Shouldn't decide what a woman does with her body.
Odds of it happening are goin up every day though, they're just outbreeding everyone else.Yeah, cause that happens all the time.
Or Colin Kaepernick.