Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Really??? Did you not see them elect Obama twice?
Really??? Did you not see them elect Obama twice?
You sound mad.
I will always be mad about 2000, never compare anything from now back to then. I don't care if it was nearly 20 years ago.
Bush stole the election, he destroyed the balanced budget that a republican congress and democratic president created. Period.
Definitely mad...
Definitely mad...
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
There is nothing like an angry crazy person.
This is NOTHING! Bush stole 2000 with 537 votes, he destroyed the balanced budget and took us to war with a country that didn't send one person into our air system on 9/11.
Trump rightly called out Jeb in the debates about this, the absolute insanity and audacity for him to run was disgusting.
If he had more votes, in reality, how did he "steal" the election?
You understand "stealing" is taking something that is not yours, like, fabricating votes, right?
If he had more votes, in reality, how did he "steal" the election?
You understand "stealing" is taking something that is not yours, like, fabricating votes, right?
After the election, a statewide tally was done counting "undervotes" - which was
what was challenged and in dispute. It showed Bush would have won any of the
several standards they might have taken.
This is always forgotten by the folks who think Bush "stole" the election, or the Supreme Court "gave" the election to Bush, or whatever lie they want to make up that day....Bush won. No matter how they counted, Bush won.
To be *fair* - there WAS ONE method tested that gave it - again, narrowly - to Gore.
This was one that included OVER votes, where a ballot was excluded because the voter voted more than once for a Presidential candidate,
and they had to guess who the "intended" candidate was. On a statewide recount, Gore would have won that one.
However - no one on the Gore team wanted to do THAT one.
EVERY OTHER METHOD for statewide recount would have given it to Bush.
And I repeat - Gore was the VP of a popular President (who mysteriously didn't campaign for him) and he couldn't
even win his HOME state of Tennessee. By rights he should have walked away with it, but it didn't happen.
I stand corrected
Gore asked Clinton to not campaign for him, as I recall. It would have brought up questions on what Gore knew, when he knew it, and would have required Gore to defend Clinton - none of which Gore wanted to do. While the foursome of the Gores and Clintons looked like the start of a swingers club, as I understand it they hated each other pretty strongly. Not as much as the Obamas hate the Clintons, but not insignificantly, either.
Can you imagine what 9/11 and post-9/11 would have been under a "President Gore?"
:cringe:
As much as I cringe at that thought, I equally cringe at how Bush handled it. Here we are 18 years later still at war. Bush got us into a huge mess. He did very little to WIN. He a lot to get us into a quagmire of pick-and-chase rather than destroy. He never should have gotten us into Iraq. I am frustrated that I still have to watch folks I work with deploy into that region.