Trump Told Russia To Get Clinton's Emails. The Same Day, They Obeyed.

[Grumpy]

what collusion was that ? Be Specific ... because if there HAD been any collusion, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) would have leaked it to the press already or someone from Muller's Office

Anyone else notice how quiet Schiff has been lately?? I think a democrat could make hay out of getting off the Dem narrative and putting the USA first by saying 'yes, there was some funny business going on in the last election and with the Dem nominee..and it wasn't Trump.' Pipe dream, probably, but I believe most Dems can see what went on, despite their hatred of our non-presidential President.

 

[katsung47]

Aside from the fact that at the time, anyone watching would see that it was a joke ....

Do you not get that this was *AFTER* she had deleted the 30,000 emails, bleached-bit the servers and smashed cell phones?
(Why might they smash cell phones? Because the phones would also have COPIES of emails).
All of which were under subpoena? Do you realize what happens to everyone else in the country when they destroy documents
requested by the government?

........

They call Hillary Clinton criminal in 2016 election, the real criminals are Trump and the Feds (FBI and D.O.J.)

The Feds had a coup in 2016 president election. To escort their candidate Trump to the POTUS, they colluded with Russians to hack the emails of Clinton and accused her of "treason" for using private server. That's a strange logic. The whole case was like a mob group (Trump and his group, the Feds) bribed a thief(Russia) to steal money (emails) from victim (Clinton) who put her money in her purse (private server) instead of a safe. Then say Clinton was a criminal because purse was not a safe place for money.

Clinton might make a mistake to put emails in her private server for convenience but that's out of careless, nothing relate to "treason". On the contrary, Trump openly call on Russia for a "hacking" against his campaign rival. Asking help from a hostile country against an US politician, if it's no "treason" then what is it?

Absurd thing is the criminal has stolen the seat of presidency, now accuse victim "treason". What happens to the US? What I could say is, US is hijaked by a mob group - the Deep State which rules the nation in rogue's way.

 

[Gilligan]

They call Hillary Clinton criminal in 2016 election, the real criminals are Trump and the Feds (FBI and D.O.J.)

The Feds had a coup in 2016 president election. To escort their candidate Trump to the POTUS, they colluded with Russians to hack the emails of Clinton and accused her of "treason" for using private server. That's a strange logic. The whole case was like a mob group (Trump and his group, the Feds) bribed a thief(Russia) to steal money (emails) from victim (Clinton) who put her money in her purse (private server) instead of a safe. Then say Clinton was a criminal because purse was not a safe place for money.

Clinton might make a mistake to put emails in her private server for convenience but that's out of careless, nothing relate to "treason". On the contrary, Trump openly call on Russia for a "hacking" against his campaign rival. Asking help from a hostile country against an US politician, if it's no "treason" then what is it?

Absurd thing is the criminal has stolen the seat of presidency, now accuse victim "treason". What happens to the US? What I could say is, US is hijaked by a mob group - the Deep State which rules the nation in rogue's way.

great stuff. You could give Dave Barry a a run for his money as a comedy writer.

 

[PrchJrkr]

great stuff. You could give Dave Barry a a run for his money as a comedy writer.

I actually spent time looking for a meme to apply here. This is the closest thing I could find.

 

[vraiblonde]

They call Hillary Clinton criminal in 2016 election, the real criminals are Trump and the Feds (FBI and D.O.J.)

The Feds had a coup in 2016 president election. To escort their candidate Trump to the POTUS, they colluded with Russians to hack the emails of Clinton and accused her of "treason" for using private server. That's a strange logic. The whole case was like a mob group (Trump and his group, the Feds) bribed a thief(Russia) to steal money (emails) from victim (Clinton) who put her money in her purse (private server) instead of a safe. Then say Clinton was a criminal because purse was not a safe place for money.

Clinton might make a mistake to put emails in her private server for convenience but that's out of careless, nothing relate to "treason". On the contrary, Trump openly call on Russia for a "hacking" against his campaign rival. Asking help from a hostile country against an US politician, if it's no "treason" then what is it?

Absurd thing is the criminal has stolen the seat of presidency, now accuse victim "treason". What happens to the US? What I could say is, US is hijaked by a mob group - the Deep State which rules the nation in rogue's way.

You totally made up every word of that. Not even the prog media is trying to peddle that line.

For you to flat out say that the FBI agents who have been extraordinarily vocal about their hatred of Donald Trump and actions to keep him from becoming President were actually working to help him is not even laughable - it's a psychotic break with reality.

 

[SamSpade]

You totally made up every word of that. Not even the prog media is trying to peddle that line.

For you to flat out say that the FBI agents who have been extraordinarily vocal about their hatred of Donald Trump and actions to keep him from becoming President were actually working to help him is not even laughable - it's a psychotic break with reality.

I keep re-reading the OP and keep wondering - is English even their first language? It hurts to read it.






(psssst.... it's a Russian bot)

 

[littlelady]

I keep re-reading the OP and keep wondering - is English even their first language? It hurts to read it.






(psssst.... it's a Russian bot)

Yes, and yes, English seems to have gone by the wayside; even though most of the world speaks it. I do want to say that I hate the scroll down thing. It sends that message that the reply is too short. I miss it every time, and have to repost. And, it is an example of white privileged forumites. , again.

 

[katsung47]

Inside Putin's feared GRU spy network that casts a shadowy web of covert operations across the globe and whose agents are blamed by Mueller for trying to influence the 2016 US election

Special Counsel handed down indictments against 12 members of the GRU

Full name is Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces

An afterthought in USSR , it is now country's largest foreign intelligence agency

By ARIEL ZILBER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and REUTERS 17 July 2018


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...global-network-spies.html?mrn_rm=rta-fallback

Trump's defenders tried to make it a "joke", a joke carried out by a military spy agency?

 

[Gilligan]

Trump's defenders tried to make it a "joke",

No..it was a joke. Still is. Sorry, freak boy.

 

[katsung47]

No..it was a joke. Still is. Sorry, freak boy.

So your trick is "Collusion is not crime" and "Truth isn't truth".

Ex-FBI agent: Trump got elected, thanks to Russia
David Knowles,Yahoo News •August 1, 2018

“Yes. I think just alone the hacking, particularly of the DNC and the time to release by WikiLeaks and DCLeaks and others of hacked materials offset the media narrative,” Watts, who has been an outspoken critic of the current president, told “Bots & Ballots” host Grant Burningham.

For many agents in the FBI, Watts said it became clear that the biggest goal for “active measures” was advancing Trump’s presidential bid, in part by utilizing vulnerable social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook.

“By the time 2016 came around, it was very clear that they had four campaign messages that they wanted to push. The first one was very anti-Hillary Clinton, and that was from the beginning. The second one was very pro-Trump,” Watts said. “The third one was when the hacking kicked in, which was that Bernie Sanders got a raw deal from the DNC, and you can see that in these hacked emails. That’s really when we started to see that hacking was starting to power influence. And the last one, which was very minor, was that you still need to show up for Jill Stein. So, the equation was quite clear, it was how do we elevate Trump to the top spot and sort of suppress Clinton turnout and people wanting to support her.”

In “Messing With the Enemy,” his new book on modern cyberwarfare campaigns, Watts said that the election results in traditionally Democratic states like Michigan and Wisconsin prove just how effective the Russian campaign was. Still, Watts notes that because of incomplete social media data and notoriously inaccurate polling, that it’s “almost impossible to prove one way or another whether Russia won the election” for Trump. What is clear is that Trump’s election was itself a victory for Moscow.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-trump-got-elected-thanks-russia-090006587.html

 

[Gilligan]

So your trick is "Collusion is not crime" and "Truth isn't truth".

No..it was a joke. Still is. Sorry, freak boy.

 

[vraiblonde]

So your trick is "Collusion is not crime" and "Truth isn't truth".

In other words, you will literally believe anything.

All I ask is that you bots get your stories straight. One minute your Democrat President is mocking Russia and saying they're not a threat; the next minute he says they are our mortal enemy. Just because you all have a short attention span doesn't mean everyone does.

 

[littlelady]

In other words, you will literally believe anything.

All I ask is that you bots get your stories straight. One minute your Democrat President is mocking Russia and saying they're not a threat; the next minute he says they are our mortal enemy. Just because you all have a short attention span doesn't mean everyone does.

Exactly. Period.

 

[Sapidus]

In other words, you will literally believe anything.

All I ask is that you bots get your stories straight. One minute your Democrat President is mocking Russia and saying they're not a threat; the next minute he says they are our mortal enemy. Just because you all have a short attention span doesn't mean everyone does.

Why don't you ever tell the whole truth.

Like the fact that after Obama's statement Russia poisoned two people on our allies soil?.

Or that after his statement we got clear cut evidence that Russia meddled in our election?

 

[Sapidus]

Exactly. Period.

Shut up you parrot

 

[SamSpade]

Shut up you parrot

You're so utterly persuasive and logical - how we all wish to be just LIKE you.

 

[Sapidus]

You're so utterly persuasive and logical - how we all wish to be just LIKE you.

Glad you can admit it to yourself and this forum. Much obliged

 

[This_person]

Why don't you ever tell the whole truth.

Like the fact that after Obama's statement Russia poisoned two people on our allies soil?.

Or that after his statement we got clear cut evidence that Russia meddled in our election?

Litvinenko was poisoned in 2006.

The Russians have been "meddling in our elections" since at least 1960.

Why can't you research what the truth really is before attacking others?

 

[littlelady]

You're so utterly persuasive and logical - how we all wish to be just LIKE you.

Makes one wonder who is the parrot. Polly want a socialist cracker?

Glad you can admit it to yourself and this forum. Much obliged

Sam is one of the best explain it all members on this forum; if not the best. He reminds me of Tilted, who was here before your time. You, really, need to get a grip, Polly, because you are losing it. Pun intended. Hope you will be ok, baby. You must not have come from pioneer stock. Just an observation.

 

[GURPS]

Or that after his statement we got clear cut evidence that Russia meddled in our election?

I'm not sure what 'clear statement' you are referring to but yeah so what :shrug:

Russia has been dicking around in American Politics since the 1930's .... specifically the KGB was supporting leftest campus groups in the 1960's to stir you opposition to the Vietnam War

why now is this suddenly a Federal Case

why are you so scare of 12 trolls from Minsk and a 2 million dollar Facebook Ad Budget vs the BILLION spent between both parties and other Groups in support of the 2016 Election



Russia Isn’t the Only One Meddling in Elections. We Do It, Too.

“If you ask an intelligence officer, did the Russians break the rules or do something bizarre, the answer is no, not at all,” said Steven L. Hall, who retired in 2015 after 30 years at the C.I.A., where he was the chief of Russian operations. The United States “absolutely” has carried out such election influence operations historically, he said, “and I hope we keep doing it.”

Loch K. Johnson, the dean of American intelligence scholars, who began his career in the 1970s investigating the C.I.A. as a staff member of the Senate’s Church Committee, says Russia’s 2016 operation was simply the cyber-age version of standard United States practice for decades, whenever American officials were worried about a foreign vote.


“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”

The United States’ departure from democratic ideals sometimes went much further. The C.I.A. helped overthrow elected leaders in Iran and Guatemala in the 1950s and backed violent coups in several other countries in the 1960s. It plotted assassinations and supported brutal anti-Communist governments in Latin America, Africa and Asia.

But in recent decades, both Mr. Hall and Mr. Johnson argued, Russian and American interferences in elections have not been morally equivalent. American interventions have generally been aimed at helping non-authoritarian candidates challenge dictators or otherwise promoting democracy. Russia has more often intervened to disrupt democracy or promote authoritarian rule, they said.