Chevy Bolt. He swears he love love loves it and it looks really hip sitting in his garage.
$16,000 to Replace a Tesla Model 3 Battery Pack
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Chevy Bolt. He swears he love love loves it and it looks really hip sitting in his garage.
Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Sounds like a Garage Queen (the car, not him....)
glhs837
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glhs837
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Yeah, that's one I don't recommend.
Not awesome range, most of it made by someone else, and what isn't made by LG is made by GM, soooooo And now they're the subject of a massive recall for setting themselves on fire. Big enough that GM had to halt production because every battery that can make goes into an old car. That might be why he doesn't drive it. He might be afraid to charge it.
Clem72
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Lots of reasons. But for me it wouldn't be the cheaper fuel, the fast acceleration, or the low maintenance. It would be the fact that I would never need to listen to another story about some bastard who ran out of gas halfway between his job at the orphanage and visiting his sick grandmother and somehow lost his wallet and just needs $7 to buy two gallons of gas.
I'm a GM guy and even I wouldn't recommend a Volt to somebody, FWIW.I KNEW you were going to say that
glhs837
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glhs837
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From what I read, the Volts pretty good. But being a hybrid, I don't really count it. And like the Bolt, it suffers from the fact that GM losses literally thousands on every one they sell. I've read that best guess on the Bolt is 7k-8k more to build than they sell them for. And that was before hundreds of million lost on the recall
glhs837
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Not all, but do you change the oil in your alternator? Or your Diff, normally? That's really what you have here. The electric motor is greased, not oil filled. There is a diff. Tesla used to recommend that get oil change at years one, five, and nine, but they recently removed that. Me, I might do it every hundred or hundred and twenty thousand. But nothing like seven quarts of synthetic every 7-8k like the wife's Jeep takes. It's approaching 140k, so that's 20 oil changes at about 60 a pop as I do them myself. Just did the brake pads and rotors for the second time. That's about 400 bucks in parts each time. Spark plugs at 100k. I had that done for 200, transverse V6s adds cost. It adds up. Add in labor and the costs are a lot higher at 85 an hour.
kwillia
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"What dif does it make?!?!?!"
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PeoplesElbow
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The far more frequent tire changes make it all a wash.
PeoplesElbow
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So does my Toyota btw.
PeoplesElbow
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I know someone with the little bitty one (spark?) He loves it, but calls it his gay little electric car.
glhs837
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Not if you change to a better tire at the first change. But the folks running the numbers account for that and the TCO still comes out far ahead. I didn't mention the fuel savings, but that's real.
glhs837
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I don't know the Toyota system that well to compare. I know the Jeeps traffic aware cruise is nice. It will do a little lane keeping, but if it intervenes to keep you in lane twice, it kicks you out.
Like the Leaf, it has its niche.
PeoplesElbow
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I've always thought they over estimate the mainntainence costs for ICE vehicles. I've had one from new to 160k (11 years) and one from 8k to 90k (8 years) that I had to put very little maintainence cost into. Tires about every 50k, one set of brakes, and a trans drain and fill for each at 50k that really wasnt needed in either case.
PeoplesElbow
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The toyota is very similar to the Tesla in that you can sit a water bottle in the steering wheel and it will drive itself on the highway, set the cruise radar and it will go at the speed you set until it comes to a slower vehicle and will slow down. I turn off the lane assist but leave on the warning so if I drift out of my lane it beeps.