16yr old rapes 12yr old Great Mills

SShewbert

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sommpd said:
RadioPatrol said:
To me, whatever the 12 year old might have been doing doesn't matter in reference to the allegation if it is true.

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I'm glad this is your first reaction!
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And if she was standing in front of a 16 year old naked at 3 in the morning doesnt make a difference to you???? I am a female and know what they are capable of even at 12. I have a cousin who is only 10 who is talking about boyfriends and having kids. You don't know the whole story. No one does and therefore should be saying nothing. I recall a thread not that long ago about a car accident that it was told no one should be saying anything since no one knows anything......
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Dymphna

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The 12-yo wasn't "out" she was in a house.

Maybe she was spending the night with the little sister, as suggested, maybe the families are friends and the girls parents asked the other family to babysit overnight for some reason.

Does the boy have a history as a perv? Was there any reason to believe he was? No one believes someone they know would do something like this until they actually do it.

Also notice the boy was charged with 2nd degree rape, not 1st degree....

(a) A person may not engage in vaginal intercourse with another:(1) by force, or the threat of force, without the consent of the other;
(2) if the victim is a mentally defective individual, a mentally incapacitated individual, or a physically helpless individual, and the person performing the act knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a mentally defective individual, a mentally incapacitated individual, or a physically helpless individual; or
(3) if the victim is under the age of 14 years, and the person performing the act is at least 4 years older than the victim.
(b) A person 18 years of age or older may not violate subsection (a)(1) or (2) of this section involving a child under the age of 13 years

(c) (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2) of this subsection, a person who violates subsection (a) of this section is guilty of the felony of rape in the second degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 20 years.
(2) (i) Subject to subparagraph (iv) of this paragraph, a person 18 years of age or older who violates subsection (b) of this section is guilty of the felony of rape in the second degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment for not less than 5 years and not exceeding 20 years.
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.so it could be statutory rape or it could be that the girl was asleep and didn't realize what was going on before it was too late.

Not that that makes him any less of a perv, but it might suggest the girl was in the home for what the parents though were innocent reasons.
 
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Nupe2

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Reading your posts always remind me of how fortunate we are to live in America. :patriot:

Thank God for U.S. Jurisprudence! :yay: The criminal justice system is the one thing that protects folk from the vigilante nut jobs that seem to reside here in SOMD.

Innocent until proven guilty....what a concept!

You folks never disappoint....:lol:
 
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sommpd

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
What happened to innocent until proven guilty mpd? :killingme

You're an officer of the law, the law says innocent until proven guilty.
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Andy your not paying attention. In my post I wrote "if the allegation is true". I didn't pass judgement on the suspect and condemn him for what he may have done! Please Andy, pay attention to what I write if you are going to attempt to embarass me.


Why are you glad this is someone's reaction?

Why is this your reaction?
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I'm glad this is his first reaction because I would rather he look at the accused with a sceptical eye rather than the person who is victimized. Certainly a person has a right to be innocent until proven guilty, but that doesn't mean I as police officer can't form an opinion of guilt or innocence based on information presented. I still have a right to free speech Andy or are you trying to take that away?
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vegmom

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SShewbert said:
And if she was standing in front of a 16 year old naked at 3 in the morning doesnt make a difference to you???? I am a female and know what they are capable of even at 12. I have a cousin who is only 10 who is talking about boyfriends and having kids. You don't know the whole story. No one does and therefore should be saying nothing. I recall a thread not that long ago about a car accident that it was told no one should be saying anything since no one knows anything......
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The difference is she is 12 and he is 16.

How stoned does he have to be to think anyone having sex with a 12 year old is ok?
 
SShewbert

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vegmom said:
The difference is she is 12 and he is 16.

How stoned does he have to be to think anyone having sex with a 12 year old is ok?
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I never said he was right in his actions. I simply stated that no one knows what happend and therefore should not be passing judgement.
 
itsbob

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
What happened to innocent until proven guilty mpd? :killingme

You're an officer of the law, the law says innocent until proven guilty.

Why are you glad this is someone's reaction?

Why is this your reaction?
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For the upteenth time, show me which law says you are innocent until proven guilty.

Show me in the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights. it's not there, there's no such thing.

think about it, if you WERE innocent until proven guilty nobody would EVER be arrested until AFTER the trial. No bail, no bonds, no policemen.
 
puggymom

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vegmom said:
The difference is she is 12 and he is 16.

How stoned does he have to be to think anyone having sex with a 12 year old is ok?
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:yeahthat:
I just do not get the blame the victim mentality. My three year old runs around the house naked all the time does that justify her being raped?
I do not care how adult a 12 year old acts, she is still a child.
 
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Danzig said:
He was not the only rapist. More to come on this........
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UFB! So this poor 12 year old child was tortured by more than one pervert? Her life as she knows it will never be the same again. I don't even want to read any comments from the rapist's families, defending their actions. The girl is 12!

I could never be a cop because there is no way I could act in a civilized manner around these effen animals. I think all rapists should be thrown on a remote island to off one another in order to survive. Danzig, I'm sure you've wanted to "cause bodily harm" to a few people while photographing their arrests but it must be nice to see them being caught to pay for their crimes (of course, once convicted). Thanks for always keeping us informed.
 
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vegmom

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Danzig said:
He was not the only rapist. More to come on this........
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Holy ####! :cussing:

Wonder if the judge will let me have a bit of alone time with the defendents after they are convicted? Just have them handcuffed to a chair and let me bring my pinking sheers. :burning:
 
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vegmom

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PrchJrkr said:
Just what do you expect the attorney to say? :confused:
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I am assuming (as it is the usual procedure) that charges were not brought until after the child had a rape exam at the ER?

This guy is being charged as an adult, so one would think she had sufficient "trauma" to merit such charges. As long as she had told her mother right away and had not bathed/showered there would be physical evidence even if consensual intercourse had occured. In which case this guy would only be facing statutory rape charges, not have the book thrown at him.

For his lawyer to be saying stuff like that to the press is really uncouth in my book. Save it for the court room buddy.
 
Dymphna

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vegmom said:
I am assuming (as it is the usual procedure) that charges were not brought until after the child had a rape exam at the ER?

This guy is being charged as an adult, so one would think she had sufficient "trauma" to merit such charges. As long as she had told her mother right away and had not bathed/showered there would be physical evidence even if consensual intercourse had occured. In which case this guy would only be facing statutory rape charges, not have the book thrown at him.

For his lawyer to be saying stuff like that to the press is really uncouth in my book. Save it for the court room buddy.
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He's NOT having "the book thrown at him." He's being charged with 2nd degree rape, which, among other things, covers statutory rape.

If there were evidence that he forced her, it'd be 1st degree. Second degree either means statutory or he took advantage of her in a state where she couldn't consent, such as asleep, passed out, etc. Given her age, they wouldn't have to prove anything except that he had sex with her. The other charges...2nd degree sex offense and such indicate that he did more than have intercourse, but other sexual acts any of which would be illegal based on the girl's age alone.

Now chances are, they are being conservative and charging him with statutory because they don't have solid evidence of force, even if that is what occured. Get him on arrested on what they can prove and build up the case from there, if possible.
 
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