17,821,967 vs. 17,535,335

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Which one is...more?

These are the popular vote totals between Hillary and Barrack. Hillary has more votes cast for her than he does for him.

So, who should win...if every vote counts?

He is given credit for caucus totals, but those are no more than estimates. They are not votes.

He got more delegates out of Texas than she did though she won the popular vote there.

He got quite a few delegates from California in defiance of the popular vote there, which she also won.

So, there it is, folks. The party of 'count every vote' has selected, not elected, the person with less votes.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Which one is...more?

These are the popular vote totals between Hillary and Barrack. Hillary has more votes cast for her than he does for him.

So, who should win...if every vote counts?

He is given credit for caucus totals, but those are no more than estimates. They are not votes.

He got more delegates out of Texas than she did though she won the popular vote there.

He got quite a few delegates from California in defiance of the popular vote there, which she also won.

So, there it is, folks. The party of 'count every vote' has selected, not elected, the person with less votes.
The "appointee", not "nominee"? :lol:
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Which one is...more?

These are the popular vote totals between Hillary and Barrack. Hillary has more votes cast for her than he does for him.

So, who should win...if every vote counts?

He is given credit for caucus totals, but those are no more than estimates. They are not votes.

He got more delegates out of Texas than she did though she won the popular vote there.

He got quite a few delegates from California in defiance of the popular vote there, which she also won.

So, there it is, folks. The party of 'count every vote' has selected, not elected, the person with less votes.

Anyone else seeing APS theory circling the drain?
 
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Bruzilla

Guest
The one with the most delegates wins silly! Didn't we have this debate back in 2000 when the Democrats were all in a tizzy about how Gore got more votes and should be President? I thought you were pretty clear that votes get counted, but electors determine the winner.

Why are you now so suddenly confused by Hillary's newly-found position that popular vote counts more than delegates when your side is on the short end of the count in delegates? What's the red mustache on your lip? Have you been drinking the Clintonaide again!
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
Which one is...more?

These are the popular vote totals between Hillary and Barrack. Hillary has more votes cast for her than he does for him.

So, who should win...if every vote counts?

He is given credit for caucus totals, but those are no more than estimates. They are not votes.

He got more delegates out of Texas than she did though she won the popular vote there.

He got quite a few delegates from California in defiance of the popular vote there, which she also won.

So, there it is, folks. The party of 'count every vote' has selected, not elected, the person with less votes.
This includes Michigan and Florida, where Shrillary campaigned and ran and Obama did not because he was the only one of the two to honor an agreement. The logic is flawed.
 
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Bruzilla

Guest
This includes Michigan and Florida, where Shrillary campaigned and ran and Obama did not because he was the only one of the two to honor an agreement. The logic is flawed.

Hillary only wins the popular vote if caucus voters are not counted, which means that the voters in 16 states and territories are not counted... which tosses a severe challenge to the "count every vote" that HillaLarry is championing. Also, as to Michigan, Obama was removed from tha ballot, but his spot was replaced with No Preference. The No Preference vote was right about where Obama should have been, so if you count the No Preference vote for Obama, Hillary loses the popular vote.
 
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Bruzilla

Guest
What was the result of the delegate's vote?

Evidently we both have faith in the Democratic Party.
My faith is based on past performance, how about you?

What past performance are you basing this on? Certainly not the 1968 convention.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
What past performance are you basing this on? Certainly not the 1968 convention.
Taking the course the most benefits the needs of the party to perpetuate their control of our economy.
Screw the people, screw the country all that matters is the power of the party.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
The logic...

This includes Michigan and Florida, where Shrillary campaigned and ran and Obama did not because he was the only one of the two to honor an agreement. The logic is flawed.

...was always flawed and the logic is not mine; it is the stated view of Democrats far and wide. They've changed their view.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
Taking the course the most benefits the needs of the party to perpetuate their control of our economy.
Screw the people, screw the country all that matters is the power of the party.

...was always flawed and the logic is not mine; it is the stated view of Democrats far and wide. They've changed their view.
Y'all are going to cry when your beloved Hillary drops out and concedes, aren't you?
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Y'all are going to cry when your beloved Hillary drops out and concedes, aren't you?

:killingme Beloved Hillary :lol:

My only expectation is that the Democrats follow a divisive course inplemented in an underhanded fasion.




... and it's fun to get Bru spun up about his :buttkiss: Obama :lol:
 
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Bruzilla

Guest
Taking the course the most benefits the needs of the party to perpetuate their control of our economy.
Screw the people, screw the country all that matters is the power of the party.

That viewpoint only works if the DNC actually believes that Hillary is a better candidate than Obama. Hillary and her supporters say so enough, but that doesn't make it a fact. By all accounts, both are nearly equal in their support. So what makes Hillary the better choice? Her experience? She has no more than Obama. Her husband? He's been nothing but an albatross around her neck so far. Her popularity? Her negatives ratings are the highest for any presidential candidate in history. All she can point to is that there are some polls showing her doing better against McCain, but everyone knows that polls of this sort, this far out from the election, are meaningless.

So it's impossible to make the case that the DNC would give the nomination to Hillary because she has a better chance of winning. The only folks making that contention are Hillary's supporters.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
It's a piece of string! Go get it! Atta boy!

:buddies:

:killingme Beloved Hillary :lol:

My only expectation is that the Democrats follow a divisive course inplemented in an underhanded fasion.




... and it's fun to get Bru spun up about his :buttkiss: Obama :lol:
Wow, you righties never cease to amaze me. :killingme

It's over. Shrillary ain't gonna win and she knows it. She's done. It's finished. Think what you want, the DNC and Superdelegates WILL NOT overturn the election.
 

Solja_Boy

New Member
Which one is...more?

These are misleading numbers. Michigan and Ohio held their primary early. This means that their votes do not count towards any delegates. Because of this Obama did not campaign in either of these states. His name was not even on the ballot. Now Hillary was on the ballet so all of her votes from these states count towards the number you are showing.

That is two states where Obama got zero votes. I'm sure if there votes would have counted Obama would have ran there and received enough votes to put him over the small margin that Hilary one the popular vote by.

So, there it is, folks. The party of 'count every vote' has selected, not elected, the person with less votes.

These are misleafding numbers. Michigan and Ohio held thier primary early. This means that thier votes do not coun towards any deligates. Because of this Obama did not campain in eather of these states. His name was not even on the ballot. Now hillary was on the ballat so all of her votes from these states count towards the number you are showing.

That is two states where Obama got zero votes. I'm sure if there votes would have counted Obama would have ran there and recieved enough votes to put him over the small margin that hilary one the popular vote by.
 
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