slotpuppy
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Maybe she had her Ipod on and couldnt hear cause of the beats by dr dre.
2 hurt when horse-drawn buggy, motorcycles crash
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Maybe she had her Ipod on and couldnt hear cause of the beats by dr dre.
sockgirl77
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I live roughly a mile from the Calvert Side of the TJ bridge in St Marys to the SSW. I can hear bikes as they cross the bridge and continue on South on rte. 4 past my house about 1000 feet.
sockgirl77
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But, but, but...the tailpipes are faced the other directions. You surely cannot hear them...
Railroad
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And THAT breaks my heart. Seriously.
I dont stand by the road, I am in a car.
Also, in a buggy with the hoofclaps and iron rims grinding on asphalt, I wouldn't expect to hear a motorcycle operated at low power.
desertrat
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True in a car in traffic, windows rolled up, music likely playing you won't hear them until they are pretty close. Leave the low power thing out of the equation. If you are on 235 all you do is stop and go. In their situation, no idea what they were doing.
sockgirl77
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Larry Gude
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sockgirl77
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PJumper
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The motorcycle had an American flag flying and has a loud motor. :shrug:
Here are the pics UPDATE: Motorcycle, and horse and buggy collide - Southern Maryland News.
Yes, but looks like they were behind the buggy when it tried to make a left turn. Could have been blinded by the sun, but it's still the buggy operator's fault if he didn't indicate he was going to make that left turn.
It was a woman.
KDENISE977
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sockgirl77
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I guess they don't count the horse.
Nope, I've seen 2 on a few news reports.
Reading the articles posted lead me to believe the buggy driver was responsible.
Turning left across two lanes of traffic from the shoulder, horse or not, still puts the burden on the woman driving the buggy to make sure there is no oncoming traffic either direction. Sun, lighting, doesn't matter, the person making the turn is responsible for making a safe turn.
Turning left across two lanes of traffic from the shoulder, horse or not, still puts the burden on the woman driving the buggy to make sure there is no oncoming traffic either direction. Sun, lighting, doesn't matter, the person making the turn is responsible for making a safe turn.
Larry Gude
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Speaking life and death, not legally, the burden is on the motorcycle rider. All of it. Period. They missed something, the buggy's 'body language', maybe the sun, somehow, someway, they didn't detect her as a potential threat and you HAVE to in order to ride safely. Maybe they were going a bit too fast? Maybe they weren't paying full attention? Maybe their time was up? Whatever the case may be, riders CAN'T afford much in the way of mistakes by anyone.
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Speaking life and death, not legally, the burden is on the motorcycle rider. All of it. Period. They missed something, the buggy's 'body language', maybe the sun, somehow, someway, they didn't detect her as a potential threat and you HAVE to in order to ride safely. Maybe they were going a bit too fast? Maybe they weren't paying full attention? Maybe their time was up? Whatever the case may be, riders CAN'T afford much in the way of mistakes by anyone.
True. Hard to detect a left turning horse you can't even see pulling a buggy with no turn signals. Time to slow down and maybe give a toot on the horn before passing. If you hit a horse fast enough to get thrown as far as he must have I'd say he was moving.
Speaking life and death, not legally, the burden is on the motorcycle rider. All of it. Period. They missed something, the buggy's 'body language', maybe the sun, somehow, someway, they didn't detect her as a potential threat and you HAVE to in order to ride safely. Maybe they were going a bit too fast? Maybe they weren't paying full attention? Maybe their time was up? Whatever the case may be, riders CAN'T afford much in the way of mistakes by anyone.
Yeah, maybe some or all of those things occurred, but unless the rules are different for horse/buggy than motorized vehicles, I don't know. A vehicle is a vehicle, right? It is still the responsibility of anyone pulling into traffic to ensure it is safe not only for them, but for anyone else using the roadway then and there, and that includes looking out for others that may or may not be following the speed limit.
This will probably come out negligence on the part of all three parties.