31,000 Scientist Say No To Global Warming

[blazinlow89]

Another Ice Age? - TIME

Seems alot like whats going on now. And the general consensus among scientists then was that the earth is on a runaway climatic change into a new ice age.

Another article that came up stated that global warming has been happening since 1950. How is that if in 1974 the earth had been cooling for 30 years. They self contradict themselves alot.

Here is the article i was refering to, its not just time magazine its journalism in general. Our society is driven by money, i see Gore as one of the best scam artist of our time. He preaches going green, using less energy, using new ways to make energy. Yet gore is the biggest hypocrite in history, he uses more energ in a month than some households use in a year, he flies in private jets, fleets of SUV's to preach his crap. Yet his followers cant see past the crap he spews to see that he doesnt practice what he preaches. I know he puts money into all these ways to find alternative energy, does that make up for the amount of carbon he emits on his own. It must be easy to put money into things when its not your money to spend.

BMI Special Report -- Fire and Ice

 

[RadioPatrol]

The hypothesis of man-made global warming has been peer-reviewed by people who study it and the conclusion is overwhelmingly supported.

Not By the Climatologists I have heard and read about ............

 

[RadioPatrol]

Author of Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming:






Climate of Fear:
Glen Beck Interviews Well Know Global Climatologists .....

 

[RadioPatrol]

In what way do those sources conflict? Can you show me a source with data that shows a rise in CO2 levels causing a change in temperature (ie, the levels change, and then the temperature changes)?

It is cyliclcal .... Solar Activity Warms the Ocean, which in Turn gives off CO2 causing a rise in CO2 levels about 80 - 100 yrs later ....

and guess what we have been having alot of lately ....

hell the climatologists have put off GW for the next 10 yrs, that we are now in a cooling cycle ....

sucks for ALBore

 

[ImnoMensa]

It really dosnt matter what the anti-global warming scientists say.

Its already been decided bythe carbon-credit crowd.

There's money in them there carbon credits.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'd...

Right, the answer is to quit our dependence on red meat, once we do that the demand for cows will go down thus creating less bovine flatulence to be released into the atmosphere. :shrug:

...like to point out that if keeping a steady supply of oil on hand was as easy as keeping a steady supply of dead cow on hand we would not be having this discussion anymore than we would be if exhaling 'caused' global warming.

Maybe we could burn cows for fuel?

 

[Larry Gude]

No...

From now, going forward i think all "Global Warming" threads should go in the religion section of the board.

...the religion forums are more for established, long term faiths; not the cult of the week.

 

[Larry Gude]

That's...

It really dosnt matter what the anti-global warming scientists say.

Its already been decided bythe carbon-credit crowd.

There's money in them there carbon credits.

...right; the dolts in the 'environmental' movement have handed 'big' oil another tool for making money. First, they helped oil and coal fight off nuke. Now, we'll be buying gasoline with .0003% flax-seed oil.

Thank you all.

 

[Baja28]

None of the refs you supplied go to support your original assertion: [/B]
Please try again.

Again, try reading. I'm not going to hold your hand. I know facts really fukc you dems up but sorry, you cannot change them no matter how hard you try.

 

[The Oyster Guy]

But, do realize, if all of the cars in the US stopped right now, and never drove again, the total effect on greenhouse gas emission into the atmosphere would be less than 1%.

I'll repeat myself... please provide a reference for your claim, or retract it. I suspect it's much like alot of the other poop I've seen written in this thread: merely hearsay offered as evidence.

 

[The Oyster Guy]

Again, try reading. I'm not going to hold you hand. I know facts really fukc you dems up but sorry, you cannot change them no matter how hard you try.

I read all the links you provided - none of them say the earth has been warming since the 40's. You provided links that don't support your assertion. Don't be surprised when you get called-out because you fail to back your claims with evidence. Now, please provide the "facts" to support your assertion, or retract it.

 

[wildsage]

Another Ice Age? - TIME
Seems alot like whats going on now. And the general consensus among scientists then was that the earth is on a runaway climatic change into a new ice age.
Another article that came up stated that global warming has been happening since 1950. How is that if in 1974 the earth had been cooling for 30 years. They self contradict themselves alot.
Here is the article i was refering to, its not just time magazine its journalism in general. Our society is driven by money, i see Gore as one of the best scam artist of our time. He preaches going green, using less energy, using new ways to make energy. Yet gore is the biggest hypocrite in history, he uses more energ in a month than some households use in a year, he flies in private jets, fleets of SUV's to preach his crap. Yet his followers cant see past the crap he spews to see that he doesnt practice what he preaches. I know he puts money into all these ways to find alternative energy, does that make up for the amount of carbon he emits on his own. It must be easy to put money into things when its not your money to spend.

BMI Special Report -- Fire and Ice

What you miissed in the TIME article was the line about higher temps at the equator. Any data since the 1950s (or 1970s) has to be less valid than today's, don't you think?
(BMI is a firm proponent of the "no limits to growth" dogma; that the same one as cancer follows.) There's no question that journalists get confused by these complicated issues. And they are tasked to condense vast piles of data & results into something the average dummy can understand. Thankfully some journalists do balance the "two" sides. For example, someone from the IPCC should get more coverage than the amateur fossil-hunter in WV. And you can't believe that there is NO dissenting opinion published, just look at the OISM crap and Singer & Michaels.
Al Gore uses more energy than you. He also voluntarily pays extra to get it from renewable sources which helps the renewable industry get going. He also buys carbon offset credits. So how is it not his money to spend?

 

[wildsage]

It is cyliclcal .... Solar Activity Warms the Ocean, which in Turn gives off CO2 causing a rise in CO2 levels about 80 - 100 yrs later ....
and guess what we have been having alot of lately ....

(No, I'm not going to sit through your youtube film fest. Give their names & I'll look them up.)
No one denies that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and increases global temps, or do you have a source that believes that?
No one else has shown that solar activity has enough effect to cause what the data shows.
What have we been having a lot of lately, besides "I'll believe Beck's lies because the alternative is too uncomfortable"?

 

[PsyOps]

(No, I'm not going to sit through your youtube film fest. Give their names & I'll look them up.)
No one denies that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and increases global temps, or do you have a source that believes that?
No one else has shown that solar activity has enough effect to cause what the data shows.
What have we been having a lot of lately, besides "I'll believe Beck's lies because the alternative is too uncomfortable"?

You're actually denying solar activity can cause the globe to warm? Explain mars' warming. I suppose you're going to deny that an object like the moon - being as far as it is from earth - has any effect on our ocean tides.

 

[AK-74me]

And who's paying the Scientests grants? Do you think maybe there's incentive to keep the money coming in?

How about who's the big players in Carbon Offsets? do you think maybe they have a vested interest to keep the Hysteria running?

I'm all for conservation, but a compromise needs to be met, neither side is willing to meet that. Global Warming is the now Global Cooling, i remember the Glacier scares in the late 70's.

Its not necessarily ignoring data, its who's/which/what data do you believe in? There is as much data against ManMade Global Warming as there is for it. And thats the caveat, Global Warming as a cyclical occurence may be occuring, its the ManMade and Man can do anything about it, issue that stirs the debate

How do you explain ManMade Global Warming occuring in other planets in the Solar System?

Spot on.

 

[Baja28]

I read all the links you provided - none of them say the earth has been warming since the 40's. You provided links that don't support your assertion. Don't be surprised when you get called-out because you fail to back your claims with evidence. Now, please provide the "facts" to support your assertion, or retract it.

I'll retract nothing retard. If you cannot read, I cannot help you. Also if you look at AK's post with the chart, you'll see the evidence.

You dems can't stand it when your lil theorys are blown to sh!t.

 

[The Oyster Guy]

I'll retract nothing retard. If you cannot read, I cannot help you. Also if you look at AK's post with the chart, you'll see the evidence.

You dems can't stand it when your lil theorys are blown to sh!t.

YOU are the retard ...you can't even properly post links (no matter how dubious) to support your claim. And "AK's post with the chart" (a) wasn't posted by AK (so you're a retard again) and (b) didn't include any attribution or link to it's source (so you're a retard still again)

And you're an idiot for making assumptions based on ignorant stereotypes... along with everything else you screwed-up in your lame-ass posts, you also got my party affiliation wrong, too.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I'll retract nothing retard. If you cannot read, I cannot help you. Also if you look at AK's post with the chart, you'll see the evidence.

You dems can't stand it when your lil theorys are blown to sh!t.

Is this one of the morons who came in to defend Shawnee?

 

[The Oyster Guy]

Is this one of the morons who came in to defend Shawnee?

Pretty snappy post there
However, it's consistent with your other 10,000 gems...

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Pretty snappy post there
However, it's consistent with your other 10,000 gems...

Sorry I didn't read all the mindless drivel you post on here.