92-year-old woman kicked out of church for not tithing

[b23hqb]

If this church is suffering because one person didn't give, then I'd say it's the church that has a problem. Given she was a member for over 50 years, I'm certain she gave her fair share over the years; this church has a big problem. Kicking her out of the church... I'd say the church has a problem. This is indicative of what I've found in our churches where they have lost their way of the scriptures and found their way to wealth.

Yup. It's not how much one gives, or when or where, but is it coming from the heart? That's what God wants - from the heart. I've made the offering deposits for years now from our small church. The checks are easy - you can count on them. The cash is the interesting part, and there is no doubt that those with the least, generally the elderly widows and widowed, give the most in relation to their mostly fixed incomes.

Praise the Lord for anyone that gives whatever they can as long as it is from the heart. They will be rewarded.

Money hungry churches like this topic will have some 'splainin' to do.

 

[Chuckt]

Yup. It's not how much one gives, or when or where, but is it coming from the heart? That's what God wants - from the heart. I've made the offering deposits for years now from our small church. The checks are easy - you can count on them. The cash is the interesting part, and there is no doubt that those with the least, generally the elderly widows and widowed, give the most in relation to their mostly fixed incomes.

Praise the Lord for anyone that gives whatever they can as long as it is from the heart. They will be rewarded.

Money hungry churches like this topic will have some 'splainin' to do.

What accountability does this woman have for staying in a church and not being discerning?
In other words, she wasn't blind. She didn't know what kind of church she was in? She wasn't involved?
Responsibility should also start with the blind.

 

[Gilligan]

I said something good about your church and you call me dishonest?

Don't be so disingenuous. Or at least use google to find out the meaning of "left handed compliment".

 

[Bird Dog]

Don't be so disingenuous. Or at least use google to find out the meaning of "left handed compliment".

He knows nothing of the Catholic Church, other than what he has been programed to believe.
Probably spends weekends smashing statues of Mary with Starrmann1000

 

[PsyOps]

What accountability does this woman have for staying in a church and not being discerning?
In other words, she wasn't blind. She didn't know what kind of church she was in? She wasn't involved?
Responsibility should also start with the blind.

The woman is 92 years old, was a member for over 50 years - likely a lot longer than the pastor was there. It appears you didn't bother to read the article:

Ms. King was considered sick and a shut-in for several months, which was the reason for her lack of attendance.

and

[She] had gone above and beyond in the past to financially support the church.

Based on what I read, this was a complete surprise. But it's sure to be a reason for that church to shut down for lack of attendance. I know if it were my church, I'd stop going.

 

[b23hqb]

What accountability does this woman have for staying in a church and not being discerning?
In other words, she wasn't blind. She didn't know what kind of church she was in? She wasn't involved?
Responsibility should also start with the blind.

Give the 90+ year old lady some slack. Her much younger son didn't see this coming, either. How involved can she be at her advanced age, chuck? Do you suppose the church leaders notify each of their "members" that if their giving drops off to an unacceptable level, they will be booted out or down to their minor league level church? Show some common sense here, if you can deviate from your tunnel vision of the perfect world that will never exist here on earth.

You're in it, I'm in it, so it's far, far from perfect.

 

[Chuckt]

Give the 90+ year old lady some slack. Her much younger son didn't see this coming, either. How involved can she be at her advanced age, chuck? Do you suppose the church leaders notify each of their "members" that if their giving drops off to an unacceptable level, they will be booted out or down to their minor league level church? Show some common sense here, if you can deviate from your tunnel vision of the perfect world that will never exist here on earth.

You're in it, I'm in it, so it's far, far from perfect.

She was a member for fifty years. What was she doing all of that time? Falling asleep? Not reading her bible?

How does one fall? Do you just make the mistake overnight? No. You start drifting and walking away from the Lord. It is not just Jesus only but Jesus plus something.

I know Church members who will give to where they know their money benefits someone or some cause directly than give it to a hireling and if they can tell then why can't everyone else tell?

Maybe the person had money and enjoyed giving it not for God but to be seen of men. And then when the tough times comes along, she gets kicked out for not giving. People like that don't always go to the most honest of Churches because they are not honest themselves.

This lesson is not hard to learn. I learned it in high school. Our teacher cared about our behavior and he said that either we do stuff right or we don't do it at all because we represent the school. The lady represents Jesus and you're telling me that she didn't care about integrity of church.

I would hate to tell you but tithes were to be paid to the Levites and this church isn't the Levites.
The other lesson is that Jesus wants more of us than our money so I give my time, my intellect, my honesty and integrity and I gave up a lot and I'm reminded of how much Jesus costs me but what I'm not is a fool to give to people who don't do their job or represent Jesus correctly.

To whom much is given, much more is required so that means that if the 90 year old lady was in front of a judge for doing wrong, I'd give her less chances than a 16 year old making the same mistakes because she should know better and if she doesn't know better then she should be in a memory unit at a nursing home. A judge would hold an older person more accountable than a teenager making a discretion. She didn't care where her finances were going.

 

[Gilligan]

Ufb!! ^

 

[onel0126]

She was a member for fifty years. What was she doing all of that time? Falling asleep? Not reading her bible? How does one fall? Do you just make the mistake overnight? No. You start drifting and walking away from the Lord. It is not just Jesus only but Jesus plus something. I know Church members who will give to where they know their money benefits someone or some cause directly than give it to a hireling and if they can tell then why can't everyone else tell? Maybe the person had money and enjoyed giving it not for God but to be seen of men. And then when the tough times comes along, she gets kicked out for not giving. People like that don't always go to the most honest of Churches because they are not honest themselves. This lesson is not hard to learn. I learned it in high school. Our teacher cared about our behavior and he said that either we do stuff right or we don't do it at all because we represent the school. The lady represents Jesus and you're telling me that she didn't care about integrity of church. I would hate to tell you but tithes were to be paid to the Levites and this church isn't the Levites. The other lesson is that Jesus wants more of us than our money so I give my time, my intellect, my honesty and integrity and I gave up a lot and I'm reminded of how much Jesus costs me but what I'm not is a fool to give to people who don't do their job or represent Jesus correctly. To whom much is given, much more is required so that means that if the 90 year old lady was in front of a judge for doing wrong, I'd give her less chances than a 16 year old making the same mistakes because she should know better and if she doesn't know better then she should be in a memory unit at a nursing home. A judge would hold an older person more accountable than a teenager making a discretion. She didn't care where her finances were going.

You have officially jumped the shark tank. What kind of Christianity are you practicing?

 

[Chuckt]

You have officially jumped the shark tank. What kind of Christianity are you practicing?

I guess if there was a false teacher practicing, you might entertain them? If it was in my power, I would throw the bums out.

What kind of Christianity was Jesus practicing?

King James Bible
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

http://biblehub.com/revelation/2-20.htm

If there is something wrong in the church and you are suffering them to teach and seduce His servants then maybe Jesus has something against you as well.

 

[Chuckt]

Ufb!! ^

Then maybe you should give them your money.
And I guess you trust everyone too that they've never stolen from you.

 

[Chuckt]

You have officially jumped the shark tank. What kind of Christianity are you practicing?

What Christianity did the Christians practice? Did early Catholics read the Didache? Did the Didache say that if someone asks for money, they are a false prophet?

But if he remains three days, he is a false prophet. And when the apostle goes away, let him take nothing but bread until he lodges. If he asks for money, he is a false prophet

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html

Matthew 7:15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

A wolf is an extortioner.

harpax: rapacious
Original Word: ἅρπαξ, αγος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: harpax
Phonetic Spelling: (har'-pax)
Short Definition: rapacious, ravenous, a robber, an extortioner
Definition: rapacious, ravenous; a robber, an extortioner.

http://biblehub.com/greek/727.htm

What kind of Christianity am I practicing? A Biblical one. What kind of Christian are you?

 

[onel0126]

What Christianity did the Christians practice? Did early Catholics read the Didache? Did the Didache say that if someone asks for money, they are a false prophet? But if he remains three days, he is a false prophet. And when the apostle goes away, let him take nothing but bread until he lodges. If he asks for money, he is a false prophet http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html Matthew 7:15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. A wolf is an extortioner. harpax: rapacious Original Word: ἅρπαξ, αγος, ὁ Part of Speech: Adjective Transliteration: harpax Phonetic Spelling: (har'-pax) Short Definition: rapacious, ravenous, a robber, an extortioner Definition: rapacious, ravenous; a robber, an extortioner. http://biblehub.com/greek/727.htm What kind of Christianity am I practicing? A Biblical one. What kind of Christian are you?

Be careful quoting the Didache--I GUARANTEE there's things contained within those writings you do not agree with...

 

[Gilligan]

Then maybe you should give them your money.
And I guess you trust everyone too that they've never stolen from you.

I would never have a clue what you look like...if your picture had not been placed next to this definition.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hubris+definition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

[cheezgrits]

Not to drag this out, but "What Christianity did the Christians practice?" may be the most confusing question I have ever read. You realize that at that time, there was no christianity? They were mostly of the jewish faith and practiced those customs, traditions and laws. And your version of the messiah, Jesus, didn't practice a "religion" of any sort, but taught ways of living that oddly enough, match up with many other faiths.

And the Chuckt comment about "even" seeing the Catholic church do good things is a pretty snarky comment. What difference does the brand name on the church doing good works make?