A-holes burning leaves

blacklabman

Well-Known Member
Finally get a day when you can open the windows and some dirtbag wants to burn leaves. In violation of the law I might add. Even with a permit, burning is restricted to AFTER 4 PM.
 

nomoney

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Finally get a day when you can open the windows and some dirtbag wants to burn leaves. In violation of the law I might add. Even with a permit, burning is restricted to AFTER 4 PM.


where is that law? Not saying its not true - just never heard that.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
where is that law? Not saying its not true - just never heard that.
St. Mary's County Department of Public Safety - Safety Tips

Open-Air burning without a DNR-Forest Service permit is allowed when the following conditions are met:

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There is a fire break of at least 10 feet around the material being burned, free of flammable material;
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Adequate personnel and equipment are on the site to keep the fire under control and prevent escape;
*

At least one responsible person remains with the fire until the last spark is out;
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Burning must occur between the hours of 4:00 p.m. and 12:00 midnight, except when the ground is covered with snow.

Forest fire protection in Maryland is regulated under natural Resources Article § 5-209 and § 5-604, Annotated Code of Maryland.
 
You live in or near Town Creek, dontcha? :popcorn:

That's my complaint too. The instant it's nice enough to open up the house, you have to close it back down to keep the smoke out. There is no valid reason to burn ** leaves anymore.


** most of the time it's not even burning leaves, they're just smoldering because they are wet or dumped in the fire choking it.
 

nomoney

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St. Mary's County Department of Public Safety - Safety Tips

Open-Air burning without a DNR-Forest Service permit is allowed when the following conditions are met:

*

There is a fire break of at least 10 feet around the material being burned, free of flammable material;
*

Adequate personnel and equipment are on the site to keep the fire under control and prevent escape;
*

At least one responsible person remains with the fire until the last spark is out;
*

Burning must occur between the hours of 4:00 p.m. and 12:00 midnight, except when the ground is covered with snow.

Forest fire protection in Maryland is regulated under natural Resources Article § 5-209 and § 5-604, Annotated Code of Maryland.

thank ya, had no clue. Why till after 4? Do things burn down more easily before 4? :lol:
 

blacklabman

Well-Known Member
You live in or near Town Creek, dontcha? :popcorn:

That's my complaint too. The instant it's nice enough to open up the house, you have to close it back down to keep the smoke out. There is no valid reason to burn ** leaves anymore.


** most of the time it's not even burning leaves, they're just smoldering because they are wet or dumped in the fire choking it.

Roger that about Town Creek!

I would go find them, but I was enjoying my afternoon scotch when the foul odor waifed in. Sure don't want to be on the roads following that enjoyment.
 

G1G4

Find em Hot, Leave em Wet
Been alot of brush fires since the weather broke. Fire danger, as it stands right now, is high.
Open air burning is permitted after 4 because the winds usually calm down and the relative humidity is higher.
 

foodcritic

New Member
St. Mary's County Department of Public Safety - Safety Tips

Open-Air burning without a DNR-Forest Service permit is allowed when the following conditions are met:

*

There is a fire break of at least 10 feet around the material being burned, free of flammable material;
*

Adequate personnel and equipment are on the site to keep the fire under control and prevent escape;
*

At least one responsible person remains with the fire until the last spark is out;
*

Burning must occur between the hours of 4:00 p.m. and 12:00 midnight, except when the ground is covered with snow.

Forest fire protection in Maryland is regulated under natural Resources Article § 5-209 and § 5-604, Annotated Code of Maryland.

This does not apply to burns on private property. This is only on STATE land. Private property you can burn leaves etc whenever you want. Permitted burns (demo house) have time restrictions. The county has it's own guidelines for those private property burns. Basically min 200 ft from occupied dwelling, debris originates on property. You should call the county emergency center and tell them so you nasty "city" neighbor does not call the fire dept on you because they think the house is on fire.....:whistle:
 

G1G4

Find em Hot, Leave em Wet
This does not apply to burns on private property. This is only on STATE land. Private property you can burn leaves etc whenever you want. Permitted burns (demo house) have time restrictions. The county has it's own guidelines for those private property burns. Basically min 200 ft from occupied dwelling, debris originates on property. You should call the county emergency center and tell them so you nasty "city" neighbor does not call the fire dept on you because they think the house is on fire.....:whistle:

Technically, it applies on any open air burning, which in layman's terms, is any burning outside. Permitted burns are any burns that have gone through the county government to obtain a permit to burn materials (could be housing material, really large piles of brush, etc).
And yes, if you plan on burning, you should probably call EOC non-emergency and let them know that you're having a controlled burn.
 

foodcritic

New Member
Technically, it applies on any open air burning, which in layman's terms, is any burning outside. Permitted burns are any burns that have gone through the county government to obtain a permit to burn materials (could be housing material, really large piles of brush, etc).
And yes, if you plan on burning, you should probably call EOC non-emergency and let them know that you're having a controlled burn.

Technically it dose not. The link is for DNR which is for state property. Leaves and weenie roasts do not require "burn permits". I know because I am looking at the county form...here

http://www.smchd.org/documents/BurningPermits.pdf

I have dealt with a neighbor who actually called the fire department when he knew we were only burning leaves. I spoke with the dept. of health and they basically said that "nuisance" would be like the fire causing ash in your pool or landing on your cars etc. They can see thru the shall we say complainers.
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
I hate the smell of burning leaves. I love to hang my laundry outside when it's nice and inevitably no more than an hour after that the burning starts and I have to take all the laundry down :(
 

G1G4

Find em Hot, Leave em Wet
Technically it dose not. The link is for DNR which is for state property. Leaves and weenie roasts do not require "burn permits". I know because I am looking at the county form...here

http://www.smchd.org/documents/BurningPermits.pdf

I have dealt with a neighbor who actually called the fire department when he knew we were only burning leaves. I spoke with the dept. of health and they basically said that "nuisance" would be like the fire causing ash in your pool or landing on your cars etc. They can see thru the shall we say complainers.

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=08.07.04.01.htm

Open air burning is: a fire where any material is burned in the open, except for small recreational fires such as campfires. On that note, the link you provided specifically states that materials that are burned cannot create dense smoke. They also stated the burn can't cause a nuisance. Causing dense smoke that drifts into someone's house is in violation of two of the regulations.
 

foodcritic

New Member
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=08.07.04.01.htm

Open air burning is: a fire where any material is burned in the open, except for small recreational fires such as campfires.[/B] On that note, the link you provided specifically states that materials that are burned cannot create dense smoke. They also stated the burn can't cause a nuisance. Causing dense smoke that drifts into someone's house is in violation of two of the regulations.


I don't know what you are reading. Your wrong.

Here is what COMAR says:

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/getfile.aspx?file=26.11.07.05.htm

.05 Open Fires Allowed Without Authorization of Control Officer or Public Officer.

A. Except as provided in Regulation .03C of this chapter, in Allegany, Calvert, Caroline, Cecil, Charles, Dorchester, Garrett, Frederick, Kent, Queen Anne's, Somerset, St. Mary's, Talbot, Washington, Wicomico, and Worchester counties, open fires, in conformance with other governmental fire control ordinances and provided no nuisance or air pollution is created, are allowed without permission under Regulation .03 or .04 of this regulation as follows:

(1) In those areas where no provision is made for public collection of leaves, burning of leaves originating on the premises, by householders, is permitted, provided that leaves are not burned at locations closer than 200 feet (61 meters) from any neighboring habitable dwelling or place where people work or congregate;

(2) In those areas where no provision is made for public collection of refuse, burning of ordinary household trash originating on the premises, excluding commercial establishments, by householders is permitted provided that:

(a) Materials are not burned which create dense smoke (emissions of greater than 40 percent opacity), and

(b) Refuse may not be burned at locations closer than 200 feet (61 meters) from any neighboring habitable dwelling or place where people work or congregate;

(3) Cooking of food on other than commercial premises or cooking of food which is subject to COMAR 26.11.18.06;

(4) Fires set in the course of agricultural operations in growing crops or raising fowl or animals or in accepted forestry practice; this provision may not be construed as allowing the burning of ordinary household or barnyard trash in areas where provision is made for public collection of refuse;

(5) Recreational purposes, such as campfires;

(6) Oil or gas fired salamanders or similar devices designated specifically for space heating or warming outdoor workers, etc., provided no visible emissions are created;

(7) Warming fires for outdoor workers, provided smoke emissions are not darker in shade or appearance than those designated as greater than 40 percent opacity, and the fires are located no closer than 200 feet (61 meters) from any neighboring habitable building.
 
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