Aircraft carrier captain removed from duty after pleading for help with coronavirus outbreak
- Thread starter awpitt
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I don't know where this thread stands, but additional information was released and now the reason why he was relieved of command is clear.
He bypassed the chain of command, his immediate superior, the admiral running the battle group, was right down the corridor from him and was not aware of his letter until it was emailed to him.
He released what would be considered troop strength, readiness information via unclassified means.
He had a direct line to SecNAV and choose not to use it, but rather go to the media.
He bypassed the chain of command, his immediate superior, the admiral running the battle group, was right down the corridor from him and was not aware of his letter until it was emailed to him.
He released what would be considered troop strength, readiness information via unclassified means.
He had a direct line to SecNAV and choose not to use it, but rather go to the media.
awpitt
Main Streeter
I find it hard to believe that Adm. Baker who was "down the passageway" was unaware of the situation occurring on the ship he's embarked on.
At what point did the CO "go to the media"? The only thing that's been confirmed, as fact, is that the CO sent the email via NIPR. Nothing, from the DoD has said that the CO actually went directly to the media.
They didn't comment on his knowledge of the situation, but rather the emails the Captain was sending and his letter.
He was relieved of command for sending the letter to the media - at least that was what I read in the statement for SecNav.
What the SecNav laid out was that the Captain had been given what he asked for, and was given direct access to the top if he needed help.
Apparently the Captain didn't like the pace at which the official Navy was moving and fired off a letter to the media - without any prior approval.
awpitt
Main Streeter
Again, no one in the DoD has said that the CO sent the letter to the media. Here's the acting SecNAV's statement. He didn't say it. If I'm missing something, please quote the part of the statement where the SecNav says that the CO sent the letter to the media.
https://www.navy.mil/submit/display...wwmK7QqtHVqCr_9jn89xYefBglvtO2Ga5uJz1xuD7lv70
gemma_rae
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"At no time did the CO relay the various levels of alarm that I, along with the rest of the world, learned from his letter when it was published two days later."
He wrote it and the media published it.
Quit being stupid and stop
awpitt
Main Streeter
"At no time did the CO relay the various levels of alarm that I, along with the rest of the world, learned from his letter when it was published two days later."
He wrote it and the media published it.
Quit being stupid and stop
You stop being stupid. The claim was made that the acting SecNAV stated that the CO sent the letter to the media. The acting SecNAV did not say that. Yes, the CO wrote and the media published it. What you are missing is what may or may not have happened in between. It's been said that there were between 20-30 people on the distro for that letter. I was not said that any of the people on the distro were members of the media. Anyone one of those people could've been the leaker.
gemma_rae
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itsbob
I bowl overhand
Pretty confident that wouldn't apply to a Capt in charge of an Aircraft Carrier, and if this Capt tries to fight under these pretenses would prove how much he needed to be relieved.
BUT, he did get his ass off of the boat, didn't he??
awpitt
Main Streeter
Yep, That's what we said alright.
Quit being stupid and
Yes. As I've already said, more than once, we all know the CO wrote the letter. So stop pointing that out. And, yes, we all know that the media published the letter. So stop pointing that out.
What we all DO NOT KNOW is how the media got the letter. To say that the CO leaked it is only a guess. There were at least 20 people on the distro. Anyone of whom could be the one who leaked the letter.
NO ONE in the DoD has said that the CO stands accused of leaking or sending the letter to the press.
awpitt
Main Streeter
I'll say this to you as well since you keep missing the point......................
Yes. As I've already said, more than once, we all know the CO wrote the letter. So stop pointing that out. And, yes, we all know that the media published the letter. So stop pointing that out.
What we all DO NOT KNOW is how the media got the letter. To say that the CO leaked it is only a guess. There were at least 20 people on the distro. Anyone of whom could be the one who leaked the letter.
NO ONE in the DoD has said that the CO stands accused of leaking or sending the letter to the press.
Yes. As I've already said, more than once, we all know the CO wrote the letter. So stop pointing that out. And, yes, we all know that the media published the letter. So stop pointing that out.
What we all DO NOT KNOW is how the media got the letter. To say that the CO leaked it is only a guess. There were at least 20 people on the distro. Anyone of whom could be the one who leaked the letter.
NO ONE in the DoD has said that the CO stands accused of leaking or sending the letter to the press.
gemma_rae
Well-Known Member
We will never stop pointing that out because there's your own admission, that he e-mailed it an additional 20 idiots, per you, you idiot, that had no need to know. Thereby insuring it would be leaked.
WTF kind of drugs are you on?
gemma_rae
Well-Known Member
I don't blame him. I'd chew my arm off to get away from a moron like you.
awpitt
Main Streeter
My point, that you missed, is that there is no confirmation that the CO leaked the letter to the media. That point still stands and is fact until the DoD releases information to the contrary. You're the idiot because you can't understand that. On ignore you go.
Gen Jack Keane was on WMAL talking about the situation and how Modly let his emotions get in the way.
Nice letter from Modly today. Modly made the same mistakes the Captain did, he didn't let the chain of command handle it.
He got personally involved, to the point of jumping on his jet and going out to the ship.
His personal involvement may have caused the Captain to initially declare that he had it under control.
If they had trusted in the Navy command, neither would be out of a job today - that was the General's opinion.
PeoplesElbow
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What I didn't get is why he got so butthurt over the crews opinions, as if they weren't allowed to have them. How could he think it was a good idea to chastise the crew for being upset?