AKC or CKC?

[FancyBelle]

I'm thinking about getting a Yorkie and the lady I have been in contact with has some that are CKC and the more expensive ones are AKC. What is the difference?

 

[Elle]

I'm thinking about getting a Yorkie and the lady I have been in contact with has some that are CKC and the more expensive ones are AKC. What is the difference?

a couple hundred bucks:shrug:

 

[cattitude]

I'm thinking about getting a Yorkie and the lady I have been in contact with has some that are CKC and the more expensive ones are AKC. What is the difference?

Anybody can pretty much register a dog with CKC..they are very lax. Do a search on here, Happy explained it pretty well.

 

[jwwb2000]

AKC has strickter guidelines as to how the dogs can be registered. Where as the CKC can have a set of mixed puppies that "look" pure breed to be registered.

 

[cattitude]

AKC has strickter guidelines as to how the dogs can be registered. Where as the CKC can have a set of mixed puppies that "look" pure breed to be registered.

Like my CKC Boxer, Buster...who has probably 1/2 pitt in him.

 

[Elle]

American Kennel Club registration is based on pedigree of both parents (their lineage can be traced). Continental Kennel Club has less strict rules as to who they acknowledge. Not that one pup will be any better than the other just if you plan to breed AKC would be a better investment.

 

[kwillia]

Like my CKC Boxer, Buster...who has probably 1/2 pitt in him.

He's going to chew your toes off one of these days...

 

[Pasofever]

AKC does DNA and other verification of the pedigree...

CKC you can register ANYTHING that just resembles the breed...No pedigree NO DNA and no other paperwork needed..

If parents are NOT AKC reg you can forget getting AKC papers on your pup..

 

[cattitude]

American Kennel Club registration is based on pedigree of both parents (their lineage can be traced). Continental Kennel Club has less strict rules as to who they acknowledge. Not that one pup will be any better than the other just if you plan to breed AKC would be a better investment.

AKC dogs can be badly bred.

My advice would be to make sure the dogs are healthy, not just the pups, but the parents as well. DO YOUR HOMEWORK, know what issues there are with the breed in general and ASK QUESTIONS.

If you are set on paying for a puppy, you are better served paying more money initially rather than paying expensive vet fees for a dog with health issues, etc.

 

[FancyBelle]

AKC dogs can be badly bred.

My advice would be to make sure the dogs are healthy, not just the pups, but the parents as well. DO YOUR HOMEWORK, know what issues there are with the breed in general and ASK QUESTIONS.

If you are set on paying for a puppy, you are better served paying more money initially rather than paying expensive vet fees for a dog with health issues, etc.

Thanks, I thought so but I just wanted some one else's opinion. This lady wants 1200 for CKC and more for AKC. I better wait. That's just way too much. You would think my brother would have gotten his fav sister one when he bought one for that 'stranger' he has brought into our lives. Maybe get a deal, buy one...get one half off. But NOOOOO

 

[cattitude]

When we bought Abbey, our second Boxer, I looked everywhere. I talked to a lot of breeders. We paid a good bit of money for her but some breeders charged almost double what we paid for her and they didn't do any health testing on the dogs (which is EXTREMELY important when breeding Boxers) -- and that was a lot of breeders. See if you can find any Yorkie clubs in the area and talk with them. They will usually recommend a REPUTABLE breeders. Just because a dog is expensive, doesn't mean it is well bred. Don't be in a rush, take your time.

 

[mAlice]

You would think my brother would have gotten his fav sister one when he bought one for that 'stranger' he has brought into our lives. Maybe get a deal, buy one...get one half off. But NOOOOO

There's a story here, isn't there?

 

[FancyBelle]

Yea, I am going to take my time. I'm really in no hurry. Thanks

 

[Cowgirl]

Just a question here...but do you think it's right for breeders to charge $1200 for a puppy just because it's a small breed dog? I mean, I know they're highly sought after, but it seems to me they're just doing it for the money.....I dunno... :shrug:

 

[kwillia]

Just a question here...but do you think it's right for breeders to charge $1200 for a puppy just because it's a small breed dog? I mean, I know they're highly sought after, but it seems to me they're just doing it for the money.....I dunno... :shrug:

Breeding pups is a business. Businesses set prices based on demand. The higher the demand, the higher the prices can go.

 

[Cowgirl]

Breeding pups is a business. Businesses set prices based on demand. The higher the demand, the higher the prices can go.

Ok, but haven't we been talking about how if you breed, you should breed because you want to improve that particular breed...and NOT do it for the money?

 

[happyappygirl]

Breeding pups is a business. Businesses set prices based on demand. The higher the demand, the higher the prices can go.

Absolutely correct.

I have to admit...i've been snockered since i moved over here. I bought (yes as in paid MONEY for) a cross breed. a Puggle. amish bred. He developed Mast Cell tumors (cancer) at 5 months and is now covered with them at only 8 months old (I couldn't bring myself to euthanize him).
I returned him to his "breeder" and i used the term loosly....but at least he realized there was a problem when not only mine but another one in the litter had the same issue, and the temperaments were squirrely, so he gave the mother away, and is thinking twice about breeding the sister he got stuck with.

Now i have a beautiful little English Springer Spaniel Pup, which i bought without papers because i could care less about breeding him. He'll be tutored after christmas....and i DID ask about Springer Rage Syndrome in the lines, and got the right answers, but who knows. Maybe he'll someday need meds for the seizure disorder. I hope not. In the mean time, he's a delighful little fellow.

It's funny, when people see my Rotts they are quite taken back, since the ones you see around here don't remotely resemble mine. But mine are from the finest bloodlines in this country and abroad, and it shows. having said that, you don't have to mortgage your house to buy a pup from us. You may have to wait years though, Availability does not coincide with supply and demand from a breeder who does it out of love and respect for a breed.

 

[cattitude]

Ok, but haven't we been talking about how if you breed, you should breed because you want to improve that particular breed...and NOT do it for the money?

Breeding dogs properly can be an expensive business.

 

[happyappygirl]

Ok, but haven't we been talking about how if you breed, you should breed because you want to improve that particular breed...and NOT do it for the money?

MOST (not all) dog "breeders" locally do it specifically to suppliment their income. Certainly many of the ones I see in the classifieds, who have litter after litter, and register with CKC (I tihnk Cat called it the Crap Kennel Club . But even the AKC will tell you that AKC papers don't signify quality. Only lineage. The canine health foundation has taken great strides in working with the AKC by printing health clearances right on the pedigrees printed by them. Its a cross checking mechanism that works.

 

[cattitude]

Absolutely correct.

I have to admit...i've been snockered since i moved over here. I bought (yes as in paid MONEY for) a cross breed. a Puggle. amish bred. He developed Mast Cell tumors (cancer) at 5 months and is now covered with them.
I returned him to his "breeder" and i used the term loosly....but at least he realized there was a problem when not myself but another one in the litter had the same issue, and the temperaments were squirrely, so he gave the mother away, and is thinking twice about breeding the sister he got stuck with.

Now i have a beautiful little English Springer Spaniel Pup, which i bought without papers because i could care less about breeding him. He'll be tutored after christmas....and i DID ask about Springer Rage Syndrome in the lines, and got the right answers, but who knows. Maybe he'll someday need meds for the seizure disorder. I hope not. In the mean time, he's a delighful little fellow.

It's funny, when people see my Rotts they are quite taken back, since the ones you see around here don't remotely resemble mine. But mine are from the finest bloodlines in this country and abroad, and it shows. having said that, you don't have to mortgage your house to buy a pup from us. You may have to wait years though, Availability does not coincide with supply and demand from a breeder who does it out of love and respect for a breed.

Happy, why didn't you just have the poor little puggle put down? Why give him back? If he's that crappy of a breeder, will he give the poor fella any type of care?