alledged child abuser let out thanks 2 j slade

Callie girl

New Member
Why does everyone think he was repeatedly abusing the child? I thought it was SBS. :confused: Isn't it possible that he freaked out ONE time and injured the child? So maybe it's possible that his parents and the mother did not think he would do it?

I'm NOT defending him at all..I'm just thinking it makes more sense for it to be an isolated incident because nothing had been reported before. :shrug:

And BTW, I said in the other thread that I was surprised he was such a scumbag, but my brother said he was always a prick in school.

I don't know either one of them but as usual everyone is jumping and assuming that everyone knew this was happening. It's possible they didn't know, the main person they need to keep the other child away from is the idiot that did it. They, and am sure they are checking out the mother and whoever lived in the household also. I haven't read everything on it cause it makes me sick to hear about stuff like this so maybe I have missed something.
 

mgdbaa

New Member
your right. I am sorry. Its just so frustrating. And to the person who mentioned the quote button, i am just learning all this somd.com chatting. I really need to be getting some work done. I am sorry about that. I did not like it when you said to butt out. I am family of baby autumn and only want the babies voices to be heard. So if i have offended anyone I am sorry.
 

cashncarry

New Member
I was there in the court room and the woodfords are to be supervise any time the mother is around the babies. So i think that means the mother is not allowed to be alone with the babies with out the Woodfords supervision.
I'll bet it's the other way around. That is, "the mother is to be present when the Woodford's are around the children". Ask the court for clarification as to who is to supervise who when who's around the babies. Better yet, can you get a transcript of the hearing in order to read the actual findings to take the "I think that means" out of the equation? The law is not ambigious and will clearly state it's findings in black and white. READ don't Think.
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
your right. I am sorry. Its just so frustrating. And to the person who mentioned the quote button, i am just learning all this somd.com chatting. I really need to be getting some work done. I am sorry about that. I did not like it when you said to butt out. I am family of baby autumn and only want the babies voices to be heard. So if i have offended anyone I am sorry.

Look down to the right. See the Reply w/ Quote link? Click it. You're welcome.
 

tom88

Well-Known Member
I understand why this situation is so upsetting to you. I'd be concerned he'd be there, too. He obviously can't support himself or his family if he's still living with Mommy and Daddy at the age of 24, married with a baby. So how would he support himself, living elsewhere, now? Was he ordered to stay away from the house?

As for Jayden's mother, she should be the one to take HER older child (which is not Ryan's or his parent's blood relative) to one of her own relatives while she stays with Jayden. Isn't there a father who is the least bit concerned here, or did she get pregnant by two different idiots who are both horrible fathers? I don't understand why she'd stay in that house with her other child.

If he's so controlling, then she's stupid for allowing it. She needs to grow up, take control of her life and take care of her kids. Nobody controls you unless you allow it to happen.


Unless she can't take the older child because the older child is in the custody of the people who's house she is in. (hint hint)
 

tom88

Well-Known Member
I'll bet it's the other way around. That is, "the mother is to be present when the Woodford's are around the children". Ask the court for clarification as to who is to supervise who when who's around the babies. Better yet, can you get a transcript of the hearing in order to read the actual findings to take the "I think that means" out of the equation? The law is not ambigious and will clearly state it's findings in black and white. READ don't Think.
No you are wrong! She didn't get it backwards, the correct people are supervising the correct people. This guy can't see the children any more, and responsible people are in charge of the child. People the state have deemed not responsible have to be supervised when with the children.
 

Dougstermd

ORGASM DONOR
Sure, everything is always easier said than done. Most of us have been through crappy relationships. I'll admit that I was in a relationship with a controlling sob for 6 years, even got engaged. :doh: He tried like crazy to isolate me from my family and friends. But I wouldn't allow it. Eventually after wasting 6 years of my life, I left. But when it comes to your kids, there's a line to be drawn. If I had kids and he laid a hand on either one of them, I'd have left right then and there.

It seems that this mother has alternatives to help her within her own family, yet she chooses to stay with her in-laws. If she was not involved with Jayden's injuries, she should be concerned for her other child's safety and get outta that house.



that right there is the puzzleing part about this whole story.
 

Dougstermd

ORGASM DONOR
your right. I am sorry. Its just so frustrating. And to the person who mentioned the quote button, i am just learning all this somd.com chatting. I really need to be getting some work done. I am sorry about that. I did not like it when you said to butt out. I am family of baby autumn and only want the babies voices to be heard. So if i have offended anyone I am sorry.



so you cannot tell the bebes momma to pull her head outa her azz and move:shrug: Or is it you would rather not have the bebes momma living with you. Something smells awfully fishy with the bebes momma:shrug:
 

cashncarry

New Member
so you cannot tell the bebes momma to pull her head outa her azz and move:shrug: Or is it you would rather not have the bebes momma living with you. Something smells awfully fishy with the bebes momma:shrug:
Don't know what it is yet, but something doesn't pass the sniff test. Why wouldn't Autumn's mother be able to move and take her little girl with her wherever she chooses to go???
 

OVRWRKDMOMMA

New Member
Firs Time

This whole scenario is starting to tick me off. For starters, GRANDPARENTS HAVE NO RIGHTS in this state or most states. It is therefore incumbent upon the mother who has custody of the child to place her in a safe environment. She is the one who has legal custody of Autumn so don't make it sound as though Ryan's parents do and that they're keeping her away from maternal family members. That's not correct or fair. After all that has happened why is this woman still in their house????

This is my first time doing this so be a little patient with me. I am under the impression that the "Woodfords" do have temporary custody of the oldest child, even though they are not her grandparents..... I find this whole story a little confusing. I am no detective, but I just think there is a whole lot more to be said to this story. I would have been gone myself. If he was abusing me or threatening me not to leave, I would have left with the threats in my mind and I guess the abuse on my body. I would not have stayed in that home. But unfortunately now Autumn is in the "Woodfords" care. I know that the "SBS" has been said to make the baby stop crying, but what about the fractured bones? What about that? I guess that doesnt make a baby scream either?....... Silence is the not a luxury. Baby Jayden has faught for his life longer than he lived it! Thats a CRYING shame. :elaine:
 
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CalvertNewbie

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No you are wrong! She didn't get it backwards, the correct people are supervising the correct people. This guy can't see the children any more, and responsible people are in charge of the child. People the state have deemed not responsible have to be supervised when with the children.


So my initial assumption may be correct? Not only does Jayden have a loser for a father but the mother is also effed up? To the point that she can't even take care of her own 2 kids unsupervised? If that is the case then I think I have all the answers I need about the mother. I guess she won't be winning the Mother Of The Year Award any time soon. These poor kids. And the older child has a biological father who wasn't even in the picture? Boy, this mother sure knows how to pick some great men to father her children. :sarcasm: It sure would be nice if she'd stop having kids being that she's not doing a very good job raising the ones she has already.
 
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CalvertNewbie

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Don't know what it is yet, but something doesn't pass the sniff test. Why wouldn't Autumn's mother be able to move and take her little girl with her wherever she chooses to go???

Sounds like yet another chick who never should have had kids. I hope her tubes are now tied! Something tells me she had some involvement in this incident but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 

cashncarry

New Member
There is a front page article in a local newspaper in SMC with info about the babies' injuries and findings by the doctor's at Childrens Hospital where the baby was flown. The baby remains hopitalized. My heart aches for the life ahead for this dear little boy.
 

CalifrniaDreamn

New Member
This is my first time doing this so be a little patient with me. I am under the impression that the "Woodfords" do have temporary custody of the oldest child, even though they are not her grandparents..... I find this whole story a little confusing. I am no detective, but I just think there is a whole lot more to be said to this story. I would have been gone myself. If he was abusing me or threatening me not to leave, I would have left with the threats in my mind and I guess the abuse on my body. I would not have stayed in that home. But unfortunately now Autumn is in the "Woodfords" care. I know that the "SBS" has been said to make the baby stop crying, but what about the fractured bones? What about that? I guess that doesnt make a baby scream either?....... Silence is the not a luxury. Baby Jayden has faught for his life longer than he lived it! Thats a CRYING shame. :elaine:

You may have already read today's paper, but the article states (about the fractures):

"In addition to the baby’s head injuries, court papers state, medical staff found fractures which ‘‘would have occurred with a forceful pull and twist of the arms.” "

Here's the link: Father jailed here on abuse charge

It is SO sad to think that someone could do this to a poor defenseless infant.

When my daughter was very young, I had a stuck sliding glass door, and I had her in my arms as I struggled to push it shut. I shoved with all of my might, the door finally sprung fee and slammed shut, and to my horror, after it closed, I saw her little foot in the door. She must have kicked her foot out right as I was closing the door. She was the same age as this baby. I was practically hysterical and rushed my baby to the hospital, called my hubby at work and had him meet me there. The docs took x-rays, and she was totally fine. I couldn't believe it, and said so. I just couldn't believe I hadn't pulverized her foot. The docs then told me that a baby's bones are like green sticks - they are so pliable that it is very difficult to break them. That is when I realized that when you hear of an infant with broken bones, you KNOW someone did something incredibly forceful to them.

My prayers are with sweet little baby Jayden.
 
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