Yes because we just let who ever come over, and get trashed, then sent them out the door.High EGT said:Some common sense should be applied in these circumstances. Allowing an under age kid to get "trashed" under your roof invites all sorts of negative consequences and violates the premise of common sense.
Common sense (or, when used attributively as an adjective, commonsense, common-sense, or commonsensical), based on a strict construction of the term, is what people in common would agree: that which they "sense" in common as their common natural understanding. Some use the phrase to refer to beliefs or propositions that in their opinion they consider would in most people's experience be prudent and of sound judgment, without dependence upon esoteric knowledge or study or research, but based upon what is believed to be knowledge held by people "in common", so: the knowledge and experience most people have, or are believed to have by the person using the term.
CRoyal said:Wow, I didn't know there was a loophole that included family..Thanks Lug
None the less, why let em know how much fun it is to get drunk when they can't truly enjoy it yet?
No one likes ducking around and skirting citations underage. .
I was merely responding to mv's use of the word 'trashed' inre why sneak out and get trashed when you can drink at home.elaine said:Why do some of you automatically assume that allowing our kids to drink is the same thing as allowing them to get trashed? Why can't you view it as wine with dinner, or an occasional beer or two?
AND...how many have given their babies/toddlers a swig of beer...honestly.elaine said:Why do some of you automatically assume that allowing our kids to drink is the same thing as allowing them to get trashed? Why can't you view it as wine with dinner, or an occasional beer or two?
jetmonkey said:I think it's awesome that parents let their kids drink at home, but i'm just qurious as to why that logic is not extended to sex, smoking, drug use, etc.
I asked her. She said no.elaine said:Maybe it is. :shrug:
Just because we were allowed to drink, didn't mean there weren't rules.jetmonkey said:I asked her. She said no.
jetmonkey said:I asked her. She said no.
I condone sneaking. It was like a game - they'd try to be sneaky and outwit me, and I would try to catch them being bad so I could light their ass and ground them.Lugnut said:And I wouldn't condone sneaking around
mv_princess said:Just because we were allowed to drink, didn't mean there weren't rules.
This is true. Very true.elaine said:Rules will be broken, regardless. Even allowing daughter to drink at home did not prevent her from breaking the rules. Telling her she wasn't to drink when we (parents) were not there did not prevent her from coming home from school one day and having a taste of everything that we had in the house. She did, however, do that at home. She was drunk at home, sick and home, and hungover at home.
That was an interesting day.
Back in the day when drinking was legal at 18, I drank without any problems. It is legal now to allow your children to drink in your own house at 18. I actually drank regularly at 16 with my parents allowing it, with the stipulation that I didn't drink and then drive. I think it is most important to teach your child to drink responsibly, and the best way to see how they handle alcohol is to allow them to do it at home, where you can supervise, if things get out of control. I was drunk many times during my high school years but never even considered getting in my car or leaving wherever I was at the time because of my respect for my father and the training he had given me to be resonsible when drinking. One of the most important things to learn IMO is to know when to say when. I, of course went over the line many times, when I was younger and paid the price of suffering the effects of a hangover before I learned the fine art of acheiving and maintaining the perfect buzz. Also alcochol affects people in many different ways. I am what people would normally call a happy drunk.....I at least think I'm funny and don't get mean or hateful. I have never been told after being drunk that I was an azzhole or did anything that pizzed anyone off. Normally whenever I drank way too much I just vegged out or crashed and kept to myself. I think it is important to see first hand how your kids will handle a situation like this before they have the chance to do it on their own, either legally or illegally and do something stupid that they have to pay for the rest of their young lives. Hopefully, just like everything else that you've taught your kids, ie: driving, handling money, premarital sex, etc.....they will handle responsibly. I agree with you on the law part. My experiences were outside the law, but those where different times. Everything I plan on doing with my daughter will be within the law. The same goes with following the laws that go along with her provisional driver's license.CRoyal said:I feel that if the law states you have to wait until you're 21, you better wait until you're 21. . Why teach them that the law doesn't matter in some situations?
I was forbidden to drink and feared getting in trouble if I ever did. I didn't touch a drop until my second year of college.. even then I was underage, but I was no longer under my parents supervision.
This isn't meant to go into the drinking age (which most people feel it should be 18) but to get some insight from parents, and your own experiences.
lugebob said:Although the topic is about allowing your kids to drink underage, my thoughts are that is should read "Allowing you kids to break the law"
Even if there is a loophole to allow drinking, there is a bigger and more improtant parenting issue. A parent is a fool if you do not think the kids are paying attention to your standards and ethics when regarding the law and the respect for it, even if you disagree with the law.
We all experiment and break some laws now and then...especially God's laws, but since this is a parenting question more than anything, you should be looking at the bigger picture.. like when they become parents and where do they draw their standards from.
These kinds of questions interest me now that my 2 little ones are now 21 and 25 with one grandchild. Both took to drinking in high school and one was in trouble with the law....... as many kids do, but not once did I "allow" it by my standards and try to find loopholes to aid in their excuses. I would always inform them of the law that was being broke, explain the intent of the law, and the price that will be paid if caught by the law or the intent of what the law was trying to protect from occured..
Now I sit back and watch both my kids make real adult decision in life and it is amazing how much they revert back to the standards that mom and dad had after all the teenage angst is over..
I think I am learning what that Wisdom thing is, the kind my grand pa always seem to have when looking at the world... either that or I am off my rocker before I even got to one.
have a good day
bob