Amazon Engineer Sues for Work From Home Costs

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Playing devil's advocate for a moment .......

When Amazon, or any company, hires someone, I don't think they base the compensation paid on answers from the employee of what kind of car they have, it's MPG, their distance from their work location, what time they'll have to get up to start their commute, the size of their house, their average electric bill, if they have a space in their house for a home office, if they have sufficient wardrobe, if they have a home computer with a gigabit ethernet port with access to high speed internet. No, they base the compensation on education, experience, merit and the type of work being performed in service to the company. All those other things are the personal responsibility, and the personal preferences and lifestyle choice of the employee, and not the business of the employer. As long as the employee shows up for work, the money paid to the employee is used by the employee as they see fit to use it. If four employees live blocks from each other and carpool to save money, does the employer reduce their wages? If the employee bags an economical lunch everyday saving hundreds a month, does the employer reduce the employees wages? No and no.

Now, when employees are told, forced, to work from home, because of the covid BS, their home expenses do in fact increase because of the lack of prior, less, usage, (the house being basically idle for over 8-10-12 hours of the day), when they are away from home at their regular work office. The amount of money saved commuting, wear and tear on their car, dry cleaning, eating in the cafeteria or outside at the food truck, is not relevant ... because, the employer cares not of those things when the employee was hired as those things are the responsibility of the employee to make due with the money they received and to spend/plan accordingly.

Conversely, think about how much the company/companies saved by shutting down the use of their in house office spaces. Far far far less electrical usage. Greatly reduced or no custodial services needed. Much less HVAC maintenance. Much less overall maintenance. Water level usages drop precipitately along with the need for hot water. The savings must have been immense. Overall, I would say these companies such as Amazon saved far more in total than the employees in aggregate.

So, in my most humble opinion, the argument does have merit.
 

HemiHauler

Well-Known Member
For your consideration ...

Playing devil's advocate for a moment .......

When Amazon, or any company, hires someone, I don't think they base the compensation paid on answers from the employee of what kind of car they have, it's MPG, their distance from their work location, what time they'll have to get up to start their commute, the size of their house, their average electric bill, if they have a space in their house for a home office, if they have sufficient wardrobe, if they have a home computer with a gigabit ethernet port with access to high speed internet. No, they base the compensation on education, experience, merit and the type of work being performed in service to the company. All those other things are the personal responsibility, and the personal preferences and lifestyle choice of the employee, and not the business of the employer. As long as the employee shows up for work, the money paid to the employee is used by the employee as they see fit to use it. If four employees live blocks from each other and carpool to save money, does the employer reduce their wages? If the employee bags an economical lunch everyday saving hundreds a month, does the employer reduce the employees wages? No and no.

Now, when employees are told, forced, to work from home, because of the covid BS, their home expenses do in fact increase because of the lack of prior, less, usage, (the house being basically idle for over 8-10-12 hours of the day), when they are away from home at their regular work office. The amount of money saved commuting, wear and tear on their car, dry cleaning, eating in the cafeteria or outside at the food truck, is not relevant ... because, the employer cares not of those things when the employee was hired as those things are the responsibility of the employee to make due with the money they received and to spend/plan accordingly.

Conversely, think about how much the company/companies saved by shutting down the use of their in house office spaces. Far far far less electrical usage. Greatly reduced or no custodial services needed. Much less HVAC maintenance. Much less overall maintenance. Water level usages drop precipitately along with the need for hot water. The savings must have been immense. Overall, I would say these companies such as Amazon saved far more in total than the employees in aggregate.

So, in my most humble opinion, the argument does have merit.

Your flaw in logic is highlighted in the bolded part.

Almost all employment in this country is at-will aka voluntary (Amazon engineering staff most certainly is). He's not being "forced" to work at home. He is making that choice by continuing his employment at Amazon,
 

WingsOfGold

Well-Known Member
Safe bet they already had internet and saved a ton in gas PLUS the tax write off.
Quit while you're ahead if you like the job. If not sue and gtfo because they will be laying for you.
 

DaSDGuy

Well-Known Member
Like every other company, Amazon sent all employees who could work from home to work from home in 2020. But what they didn't do was start paying for internet and electricity costs for their employees, according to a lawsuit filed by an Amazon engineer in California.

On the surface, it makes perfect sense. California law requires companies to pay all business expenses. Employees who work at home use more electricity and internet than they would if they came into the office. Therefore, the engineer has a case. At least, that's why the judge didn't throw it out.

Amazon argues that these expenses aren't the company's obligation since it wasn't its choice to send people home; it was following the state orders to send everyone home. The law doesn't seem to have an exception for emergencies.

My best bet? The Amazon engineer will win.


Of course he will win. It's the Socialist Republik of Kalifornia. Of course Amazon will have no choice but to cancel work from home because of the costs, making this clown very popular amongst his fellow employees. They won't fire him for risk of being sued again, so if leaves he will need to find himself another job. He can't qualify for unemployment if he quits. Extra cost to commute? He can save money on electricity and cancel his home internet.
 
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