American Healthcare?! Americans rushing to Canada for Vaccine!!!

[Pete]

I think Cheney's left hand must be up yours, while his right is up Bush's.

Sir/Madam,

I assure you that Vice President Cheney’s hand in nowhere near my anus. I do however feel that you suffer from mental defect. First I think your motive is perfectly clear. Since your arrival to these forums your left leaning political discourse had made your motive is to advance your liberal agenda, and if that is not possible to cause as much unrest as possible though unsubstantiated outrageous claims. This thread is a thinly veiled attempt to assess blame for the current shortage of influenza vaccine upon the present administration is your further attempts at discrediting the President of the United States and to forward your cause, which is the election of John F. Kerry.

That being said, now to the point. It has been pointed out on several new magazines, interviews and reports that 100% of our supply of vaccines is purchased from foreign countries. This is because Government regulation, price fixing, exposure to huge liability have not made it profitable for American companies to pursue the manufacture of vaccines. I would like to point out that huge government oversight, over regulation, price fixing, support of trial lawyers and opposition to Tort reform are positions your party holds, therefore making the Democratic party the defacto cause of this problem.

Now Mr./Ms. Urbanpancake , I am sure that you, as a proud and thankful American will join with me in thanking the President of the United States George W. Bush and his Department of Health and Human Services and its Secretary Tommy Thompson with a sincere “Thank you” and praise for a job well done in protecting us from contaminated vaccine which if gone undetected could have endangered the lives of Senior citizens in South Dakota and all over the nation.

 

[UrbanPancake]

Sir/Madam,

I assure you that Vice President Cheney’s hand in nowhere near my anus. I do however feel that you suffer from mental defect. First I think your motive is perfectly clear. Since your arrival to these forums your left leaning political discourse had made your motive is to advance your liberal agenda, and if that is not possible to cause as much unrest as possible though unsubstantiated outrageous claims. This thread is a thinly veiled attempt to assess blame for the current shortage of influenza vaccine upon the present administration is your further attempts at discrediting the President of the United States and to forward your cause, which is the election of John F. Kerry.

That being said, now to the point. It has been pointed out on several new magazines, interviews and reports that 100% of our supply of vaccines is purchased from foreign countries. This is because Government regulation, price fixing, exposure to huge liability have not made it profitable for American companies to pursue the manufacture of vaccines. I would like to point out that huge government oversight, over regulation, price fixing, support of trial lawyers and opposition to Tort reform are positions your party holds, therefore making the Democratic party the defacto cause of this problem.

Now Mr./Ms. Urbanpancake , I am sure that you, as a proud and thankful American will join with me in thanking the President of the United States George W. Bush and his Department of Health and Human Services and its Secretary Tommy Thompson with a sincere “Thank you” and praise for a job well done in protecting us from contaminated vaccine which if gone undetected could have endangered the lives of Senior citizens in South Dakota and all over the nation.

The first time I arrived on this site I noticed you were spreading the conservative gospel, which is no different from what I was doing in the political forums. That said who cares? I will not thank Mr. Bush for allowing the US to become dependent on other country's for our flu vaccines, and other manufactured goods. The last time I checked there hasn't been any related incidents about seniors who received discounted drugs from Canada falling down dead. Most of these drugs are produced in the United States!

STOP PROMOTING THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA ON A NON-POLITICAL POST!!

 

[Pete]

The first time I arrived on this site I noticed you were spreading the conservative gospel, which is no different from what I was doing in the political forums. That said who cares? I will not thank Mr. Bush for allowing the US to become dependent on other country's for our flu vaccines, and other manufactured goods. The last time I checked there hasn't been any related incidents about seniors who received discounted drugs from Canada falling down dead. Most of these drugs are produced in the United States!

STOP PROMOTING THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA ON A NON-POLITICAL POST!!

Sir/Madam

I would kindly ask you to stop doing exactly what your political party of choice does so regularly, dictating what I am to do. I am a conservative in the broadest sense and for that I do not apologize nor do I shirk with fear from a tolerable debate of facts or rational thought. I fear your arsenal of fact is unsurprisingly empty therefore we cannot debate fact or rational thought because you are unarmed.

Further, I ask you to provide an answer to 3 questions. First; "What provision of the Constitution of the United States of America makes the Government and namely the President responsible for providing an ample supply of medicine in reserve for a tainted supply being turned away? “

And Second; Are you so horribly partisan that you cannot thank a duly appointed officials who performed their duties superbly simply because they are from the opposition party?

Lastly; “Where did I ask you to thank President Bush for allowing the United States for becoming dependent on foreign vaccines? I recall and I believe it is on record as asking you to thank the President and the Secretary for detecting a tainted batch of vaccine destined for the arms of our citizens.

 

[UrbanPancake]

Sir/Madam

I would kindly ask you to stop doing exactly what your political party of choice does so regularly, dictating what I am to do. I am a conservative in the broadest sense and for that I do not apologize nor do I shirk with fear from a tolerable debate of facts or rational thought. I fear your arsenal of fact is unsurprisingly empty therefore we cannot debate fact or rational thought because you are unarmed.

Further, I ask you to provide an answer to 3 questions. First; "What provision of the Constitution of the United States of America makes the Government and namely the President responsible for providing an ample supply of medicine in reserve for a tainted supply being turned away? “

And Second; Are you so horribly partisan that you cannot thank a duly appointed officials who performed their duties superbly simply because they are from the opposition party?

Lastly; “Where did I ask you to thank President Bush for allowing the United States for becoming dependent on foreign vaccines? I recall and I believe it is on record as asking you to thank the President and the Secretary for detecting a tainted batch of vaccine destined for the arms of our citizens.

Number 1 What am I debating you about? I think your imagining things. I don't want to debate you. I wanted an open discussion of opinions on the flu vaccine. So I don't really know what your talking about. You turn words around to the point where they make no sense, or so no one can tell what your trying to talk about.
An answer to your questions- The President doesn't have to provide us with an ample supply of flu vaccine. He should. There should be no question of our leader if he's going to supply his people with vaccine. He should do it for the sake of the children and elderly who depend on him for the future of there health. He should do it because our future depends on the economy that our children will build.
Second- I'm not partisan. As I have said in earlier threads, When I lived in the District of Columbia I voted for two Republicans for City Council. You may have heard of them Carol Schwartz, and David Cantania. I will not thank President Bush. Get over it. Are you so partisan that you can't go over it? By the way, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Bush who looked at the vaccines and discovered they were tainted. It was probably someone within the redtape who discovered it. I will thank that person though.

 

[Pete]

Number 1 What am I debating you about? I think your imagining things. I don't want to debate you. I wanted an open discussion of opinions on the flu vaccine. So I don't really know what your talking about. You turn words around to the point where they make no sense, or so no one can tell what your trying to talk about.
An answer to your questions- The President doesn't have to provide us with an ample supply of flu vaccine. He should. There should be no question of our leader if he's going to supply his people with vaccine. He should do it for the sake of the children and elderly who depend on him for the future of there health. He should do it because our future depends on the economy that our children will build.
Second- I'm not partisan. As I have said in earlier threads, When I lived in the District of Columbia I voted for two Republicans for City Council. You may have heard of them Carol Schwartz, and David Cantania. I will not thank President Bush. Get over it. Are you so partisan that you can't go over it? By the way, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Bush who looked at the vaccines and discovered they were tainted. It was probably someone within the redtape who discovered it. I will thank that person though.

Sir/Madam,

Let me first point out the sheer hypocrisy in your position by directing your attention to these statements from your last post.

The President doesn't have to provide us with an ample supply of flu vaccine. He should. There should be no question of our leader if he's going to supply his people with vaccine.

By the way, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Bush who looked at the vaccines and discovered they were tainted. It was probably someone within the redtape who discovered it. I will thank that person though.

Why is it that you feel so secure in pointing out and assessing blame for a problem when you yourself admit “he doesn’t have to”, yet turn around and point out he is not really involved in the process when asked to admit he was effective? In other words, how can he be held responsible to the degree you want; yet when the situation does not suit your agenda you claim he wasn’t responsible at all? If your logic was to be used, should you not be holding the person at the vaccine production facility that allowed the shipment to be tainted responsible for the shortage since he was actually there and not President Bush who was not?

You are not partisan? I really believe you are not partisan.

For the last time, please refrain from attempting to dictate what I am supposed to “get over”. If you persist in being a bully I will be forced to report you to the forum moderator. Thank you

 

[UrbanPancake]

Sir/Madam,

Let me first point out the sheer hypocrisy in your position by directing your attention to these statements from your last post.





Why is it that you feel so secure in pointing out and assessing blame for a problem when you yourself admit “he doesn’t have to”, yet turn around and point out he is not really involved in the process when asked to admit he was effective? In other words, how can he be held responsible to the degree you want; yet when the situation does not suit your agenda you claim he wasn’t responsible at all? If your logic was to be used, should you not be holding the person at the vaccine production facility that allowed the shipment to be tainted responsible for the shortage since he was actually there and not President Bush who was not?

You are not partisan? I really believe you are not partisan.

For the last time, please refrain from attempting to dictate what I am supposed to “get over”. If you persist in being a bully I will be forced to report you to the forum moderator. Thank you

Your the bully. Anyway I wasn't trying to start a political debate, you are. This post is just about peoples opinions on the matter and how it may relate to them in the southern maryland area. You came on here and started talking about liberal this liberal that. Who cares? I don't. So after this last post to you, I will no longer respond to your quips and soundbites.

 

[dustin]

The flu vaccine is actually a government backed conspiracy to insert tracking devices into humans for monitoring. They encourage us to get this "vaccine" every year because that is how long the power source can last after keeping recharged during the past year through static electricity built up by movement. Once the power source fails to recharge, the device absorbs itself into the bloodstream.

The company which manufactures the "vaccine" in England has had problems keeping a supply of the tracking devices because of the sudden consumer interest within the past few years.

Just watch, pretty soon they will be coming out with a vaccine you only need to take every couple years...this will be because they invented a new power source. Probably taking technology from the latest developments used to track individuals' pets and shipping containers.

 

[UrbanPancake]

The flu vaccine is actually a government backed conspiracy to insert tracking devices into humans for monitoring. They encourage us to get this "vaccine" every year because that is how long the power source can last after keeping recharged during the past year through static electricity built up by movement. Once the power source fails to recharge, the device absorbs itself into the bloodstream.

The company which manufactures the "vaccine" in England has had problems keeping a supply of the tracking devices because of the sudden consumer interest within the past few years.

Just watch, pretty soon they will be coming out with a vaccine you only need to take every couple years...this will be because they invented a new power source. Probably taking technology from the latest technology developed used to track individuals pets and shipping containers.

WHAT HE SAID!!

 

[Kyle]

I was unaware that we were experiencing a flu pandemic. I wish we would, the gene pool needs a big blast of chlorine these days.

Bright spot: When it hits the major population centers think of the shift to the right when the parasitic class is wiped out.

 

[UrbanPancake]

Bright spot: When it hits the major population centers think of the shift to the right when the parasitic class is wiped out.

It's funny you say that. The left may live in more populated areas, but the right is employed in the leftist employment centers.

 

[Kyle]

Sir/Madam,

I assure you that Vice President Cheney’s hand in nowhere near my anus. I do however feel that you suffer from mental defect. First ....

I tend to ignore DurbanPancake for the most part but there appears to be pattern... He seems overly preoccupied with certain parts of the human anatomy and homosexual issues.

Interesting.

 

[Sharon]

It's funny you say that. The left may live in more populated areas, but the right is employed in the leftist employment centers.

Sounds like the drive in will be shorter after the epidemic.

 

[Pete]

Your the bully. Anyway I wasn't trying to start a political debate, you are. This post is just about peoples opinions on the matter and how it may relate to them in the southern maryland area. You came on here and started talking about liberal this liberal that. Who cares? I don't. So after this last post to you, I will no longer respond to your quips and soundbites.

Sir/Madam,



I anticipated this reaction. True, I did rudely post defaming statements, however true, in large bold font to annoy, harass and antagonize you. I did that because like the prototypical liberal you are unable to be reasoned with, you are rude, you are unable to keep on point, debate, or discuss, or support your opinions with anything other than effeminate emotion and shrieking. You appeared here for the express purpose of annoying and liberal bomb throwing because you knew you could not convert people here. Please do not insult the intelligence of the people of this forum with a weak argument that you came to thoughtfully discuss relevant topics for you truly had no desire to do so.

Now I have attempted in the last few hours to have pleasant, civilized and literate discourse with you on a variety of topics you chose. Not only have you failed to express your point with any clarity or conviction, but you have confirmed my points outlined in paragraph 1 of this post. I have succeeded in exposing you for what I rightly assumed you were in the beginning, a political hack bent on conversion or diversion.

You claim you will be ignoring me after your last post out of some false sense of principle. We know it is false and I had hoped you would have stood by your briefly found relationship with honesty but alas you have not. If you ignore me, which I highly doubt you will, it is because you cannot compete in debate with your outdated, flawed, weak socialist liberal agenda or lack of skill in serious debate. In typical fashion you prefer to “bomb and run” or fling about outrageous unsubstantiated claims, fan the flames and retreat to safety. Goodbye, it has been a good exercise in restraint these last couple of hours exposing you for what you really are. Have a nice day and rest assured, should I step upon thee in the future it is in err and I shall scrape thee off the sole of my shoe post haste.

 

[dustin]

...and rest assured, should I step upon thee in the future it is in err and I shall scrape thee off the sole of my shoe post haste.

Pete 3:16?

 

[Pete]

Pete 3:16?

It is easy to hide unflattering remarks if you put a "thee" or two in it.

 

[Aimhigh2000]

Wow

 

[itsbob]

Do you have anything important to say? You didn't write a statement related to what I have posted, do you have any real thoughts on this pandemic?

PANDEMIC!??? You have GOT to be kidding me? Who do you get your information from?? Flu vaccine has no effect on me whatsoever, but since when is FIVE confirmed cases of the FLU (oh god NOT the FLU!!) make a pandemic?

I guess a single (insert race here) person getting killed in a hold up would be genocide??

 

[Vince]

What is all this crap about the lousy flu? I get it every year and get over it. Big deal. It's not the plague.

 

[UrbanPancake]

I started this post becuase there are so many parents and senior citizens that go crazy about the flu. Plus I never said it was a pandemic, I said it could turn to a pandemic later on this winter.

 

[Pete]

I started this post becuase there are so many parents and senior citizens that go crazy about the flu. Plus I never said it was a pandemic, I said it could turn to a pandemic later on this winter.

Do you have anything important to say? You didn't write a statement related to what I have posted, do you have any real thoughts on this pandemic?

Dear Sir/madam,

I understand the feeling of the earth crumbling from underneath you but if you insist on being a trumpeter for the National Enquirer Wing of the Democratic Party it is a sensation you must learn to deal with.

You did in fact in one of your typical outrageous exaggerated claims call this a “Pandemic” as I prove above. While most here already suspect everything you say is an exaggeration or falsehood, outright lying only takes your zero credibility into negative numbers.

Further your grave concern for “parents and seniors who are going crazy” is so transparent and sanctimonious it actually caused me to chuckle.

Please see a mental health professional.