And The Real Winner Is... John Edwards!!!

[Bruzilla]

John Edwards didn't give up his one-term Senate seat... he "Retired." He barely spent one term in office, and spent most of it hob-knobbing about the country trying to be Prez or Vice-Prez, and now he gets to retire with salary and benefits.

 

[SmallTown]

John Edwards didn't give up his one-term Senate seat... he "Retired." He barely spent one term in office, and spent most of it hob-knobbing about the country trying to be Prez or Vice-Prez, and now he gets to retire with salary and benefits.

jealous?

Maybe now he can afford to buy that Atkins book for his wife.

 

[rraley]

I think that the real winner in this election is the American people. While the result was close, it is definitively in favor of President Bush and we should all be grateful that we have the opportunity to live in a nation where governmental elections are determined by votes rather than tanks.

 

[FromTexas]

Yes, we should be tank-ful.

:groooan:

 

[Steve]

I think that the real winner in this election is the American people. While the result was close, it is definitively in favor of President Bush and we should all be grateful that we have the opportunity to live in a nation where governmental elections are determined by votes rather than tanks.

Good statement. We can disagree, but once again the baton of leadership passes without riots, without deaths, without chaos. This is what makes US the best. Sappy I know, but true nonetheless.

 

[Larry Gude]

Atta boy!

I think that the real winner in this election is the American people

Well stated.

 

[SmallTown]

kinda off topic, but not really. I heard that today karzai was named the winner in afghanistan. The election was on October 8 I believe. Isn't that a faster decleration than we had on 2000?

 

[huntr1]

I think that the real winner in this election is the American people. While the result was close, it is definitively in favor of President Bush and we should all be grateful that we have the opportunity to live in a nation where governmental elections are determined by votes rather than tanks.

:heartattack: I AGREE with RRaley! I think hell just froze over. Excellent post my good man!

 

[Ken King]

Wouldn't Edwards fall under FERS and only receive 1% per year of service for his high-three salary? He can also continue with his FEHB plan but what other "benefit" is there?

 

[czygvtwkr]

He will get his salary every year till he dies. That is the congressional "retirement" package.

I think Hillary Clinton is also a winner in this election too.

 

[BuddyLee]

He will get his salary every year till he dies. That is the congressional "retirement" package.

I think Hillary Clinton is also a winner in this election too.

I really hope the Dems aren't stupid enough to let her run.

 

[Ken King]

He will get his salary every year till he dies. That is the congressional "retirement" package.

I think Hillary Clinton is also a winner in this election too.

Please cite where you have found this information. Everything I have found or read is that Congressional members fall under the established civil service retirement rules.

 

[SmallTown]

Please cite where you have found this information. Everything I have found or read is that Congressional members fall under the established civil service retirement rules.

pretty much.

http://www.house.gov/scott/rumor_narfe_congressional_retirement.htm

 

[UrbanPancake]

I think that the real winner in this election is the American people. While the result was close, it is definitively in favor of President Bush and we should all be grateful that we have the opportunity to live in a nation where governmental elections are determined by votes rather than tanks.

I don't know. I agree that it's great that so many people came out to vote. But the sad truth is that most people voted based on Bush's social policy, and not his economic agenda. I mean it's great that Americans came out and voted, but to vote without knowing your candidates positions, and his agenda seems like a wasted and uninformed vote.

 

[Steve]

Please cite where you have found this information. Everything I have found or read is that Congressional members fall under the established civil service retirement rules.

We have had this discussion on here before. Congressmen and Senators have the same retirement policy as any other Federal employee. The days of "special" retirement packages are long gone.

But what would it matter anyway? Edwards, like many politicians, is very wealthy. I doubt even the approximately ~$140K he might get as a full pensioner would cover his travel expenses.

 

[Voter2002]

I don't know. I agree that it's great that so many people came out to vote. But the sad truth is that most people voted based on Bush's social policy, and not his economic agenda. I mean it's great that Americans came out and voted, but to vote without knowing your candidates positions, and his agenda seems like a wasted and uninformed vote.

ahhh grasshopper...you ASSume too much. Just because Bush wins the majority of the popular vote, you assume that everyone who voted for Bush had no idea or were mis-informed about his positions? In your eyes, we voted for Bush because he gives us the warm fuzzies instead of knowing what his positions are??

 

[Voter2002]

Info on the retirement:

Under both CSRS and FERS, Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at age 62 if they have completed at least 5 years of service. Members are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member’s retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.

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http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30631.pdf​

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[UrbanPancake]

ahhh grasshopper...you ASSume too much. Just because Bush wins the majority of the popular vote, you assume that everyone who voted for Bush had no idea or were mis-informed about his positions? In your eyes, we voted for Bush because he gives us the warm fuzzies instead of knowing what his positions are??

I didn't say all people. Mostly people in the south or midwest (who are evangelical) A prominent republican (I can't remember his name now, it was in the morning newspaper) said that Bush shouldn't take his win as a mandate to change or promote a conservative economic policy.

 

[Pete]

:sanctimonioussourgrapes:

 

[Otter]

I didn't say all people. Mostly people in the south or midwest (who are evangelical)

So, what you're saying is that if you don't drink the democratic sheep flavored koolade, you're just po lil sheep that have gone astray?

I still submit to you that one of the main reasons Bush won is because of the elitist, condescending attitude of most Democrats now in power in the party.