Another Out Of Control Cop : Taser Vid

[vraiblonde]

Back in the day, when the cop pulled you over and asked for your license and registration, the only response you gave him was, "Yes, officer."

Sort of like how, back in the day, when your Mom told you to go clean your room, you responded, "Yes, ma'am."

Folks nowadays don't think there's any such thing as authority, and they'll sass a cop or judge just the way they've been taught to sass their parents.

 

[AK-74me]

...and you don't antagonize a cop by arguing with him and ignoring his direction by continuing to talk on the phone....

Thug or not, he has lethal force on his hip and he showed great restraint by not using greater force than a throttled-down taser. The dude provoked the outcome just like the idiot who baited the cop while videotaping his suspicious activities in K.C. a few months ago. Don't sass the cops.

Wow, thank God you are not a cop as far as I know.

 

[AK-74me]

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/pdf/09/0930video_affidavit.pdf

More info. here.

 

[AK-74me]

Back in the day, when the cop pulled you over and asked for your license and registration, the only response you gave him was, "Yes, officer."

Sort of like how, back in the day, when your Mom told you to go clean your room, you responded, "Yes, ma'am."

Folks nowadays don't think there's any such thing as authority, and they'll sass a cop or judge just the way they've been taught to sass their parents.

And back in the day cops acted like cops are suppose to act, not like Jack Booted Thugs, so I guess it's a wash?

Tase at will.

It can be a useful tool, too bad it has turned into a crutch.

 

[vraiblonde]

And back in the day cops acted like cops are suppose to act, not like Jack Booted Thugs, so I guess it's a wash.

Well, so far I haven't seen a video where the taseree completely and with haste responded to the cop's directive, and got tased anyway.

 

[Larry Gude]

For...

Back in the day, when the cop pulled you over and asked for your license and registration, the only response you gave him was, "Yes, officer."
Sort of like how, back in the day, when your Mom told you to go clean your room, you responded, "Yes, ma'am."

Folks nowadays don't think there's any such thing as authority, and they'll sass a cop or judge just the way they've been taught to sass their parents.

...most people that is exactly what happens today. As I pointed out, that crazy dude video was in 1992 and he wasn't no punk teenager. he was a grown man. Back 'in the day' people got pissed at cops, told them off, treated them poorly and got in trouble for it. Fines, larger tickets, whatever.
I watched my uncle argue for 10 minutes with a cop over passing on a double yellow. He was clearly wrong but he felt at liberty to have an argument with a civil servant in a civil tone.

Cops deserve to be respected. That doesn't mean they deserve to be put on some pedestal and be treated as gods...or moms.

 

[Lenny]

Wow, thank God you are not a cop as far as I know.

Naw, just a law-abiding citizen who is apparently smarter than the average Joe.

 

[Larry Gude]

Do...

Well, so far I haven't seen a video where the taseree completely and with haste responded to the cop's directive, and got tased anyway.

...you work for the cops or do they work for you?

An officer has an obligation, as a civil servant, to do the job and also keep in mind that HE is serving the public, not the other way around. All of us, doctors, garbage men, all of us, have an obligation to try and conduct ourselves civilly and with patience when we go about our business and to try a bit harder when the pressure is on. So do cops, only more so. They're the ones who are armed.

What this numb nuts did amounted to assault. He has no business with a badge or a gun. Or a taser or a toothpick.

 

[AK-74me]

Naw, just a law-abiding subject who is apparently smarter than the average Joe.

:Fixed

 

[Lenny]

...you work for the cops or do they work for you?

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Oh, please telephone me the next time you see white and blue lights in your rearview mirror. I really want to be there when you use this on the officer standing outside your driver side window.

 

[Larry Gude]

Lol...

:Fixed

...there it is!

:hifive:

 

[AK-74me]

In the use of force it is the cop's obligation to try to de-esculate the situation. Now I don't expect them to put themselves in danger doing so, but in this case it was a perfect oppurtunity to de-escualte, instead this cop takes it in the opposite direction by yelling and screaming and drawing his taser awful fast.

 

[Larry Gude]

I treat...

Oh, please telephone me the next time you see white and blue lights in your rearview mirror. I really want to be there when you use this on the officer standing outside your driver side window.

...officers with complete respect. I've had two tickets in the last 10 years. One of them I got pulled over right in front of my neighborhood. No problem, I was speeding.

The second one was a little punk azz rookie who was jumping up and down like a jaybird at the scales because I took the green lane when the light changed in my rear mirror. He was visibly agitated and looking for a confrontation. I bit my tongue and his supervisor took over and sent him off to do something else. No business being an officer.

I'm not gonna debate with a cop when I am in the wrong. However, if I had been pulled over for going 70 in a 65 I would have said "You've got to be kidding me!"

Of course, I am not black, so I don't have the race issue as part of the equation. Whatever the reason, that cop had NO business zapping that person. He's a disgrace.

 

[vraiblonde]

As I pointed out, that crazy dude video was in 1992 and he wasn't no punk teenager.

Larry Gude, when we watched that video for the first time, YOU were the one shouting, "Tase him! You have a perfectly good gun - why don't you shoot that #######???"

 

[Larry Gude]

That would...

Larry Gude, when we watched that video for the first time, YOU were the one shouting, "Tase him! You have a perfectly good gun - why don't you shoot that #######???"

...be one recollection. Mine is that we saw this video long before the taser craze and not every cop has one like nowadays, so I don't think I said 'taze' him. Further, my recollection was in wonderment that the cop had such restraint and how funny it was watching this guy lose his mind.

I do agree, certainly, if anyone could be said to 'deserve' getting zapped, that guy did, way more so in comparison to the video in question starting this thread.

I will happily concede that my memory is flawed and readily accept that I reacted just the way you said I did if it furthers the point that cops are way over reacting these days, especially compared to cops like the one with crazy man.

 

[chernmax]

That cop was a total dcik!!!

 

[AK-74me]

Here is a still photo

that has just been released from the events that occured in the video in question.

 

[smcop]

In the use of force it is the cop's obligation to try to de-esculate the situation. Now I don't expect them to put themselves in danger doing so, but in this case it was a perfect oppurtunity to de-escualte, instead this cop takes it in the opposite direction by yelling and screaming and drawing his taser awful fast.

Let me weigh in. In this situation I think the police officer should have exersized better judgement and restraint. I personally would like to think I would have spoken in a calmer voice so as to bring down the demeanor of this obviously agitated person.

However, once out of the car, and giving you direction, you will follow that direction or be tazed. The officer first attempted soft empty hand control and the driver pulled away. At that time, I would rather see the officer use the tazer than go hands on and risk hurting himself or the driver.

While I think this was not this officer's shinning moment, I don't know if I am ready to judge his entire career based on a bad attitude on this one stop.

 

[AK-74me]

Let me weigh in. In this situation I think the police officer should have exersized better judgement and restraint. I personally would like to think I would have spoken in a calmer voice so as to bring down the demeanor of this obviously agitated person.

However, once out of the car, and giving you direction, you will follow that direction or be tazed. The officer first attempted soft empty hand control and the driver pulled away. At that time, I would rather see the officer use the tazer than go hands on and risk hurting himself or the driver.

While I think this was not this officer's shinning moment, I don't know if I am ready to judge his entire career based on a bad attitude on this one stop.

Taser was out when the driver was still in the car, if you read the transcript the interviewing officer, I take it IAD, questions the officer about that and why he did it and did he plan on tasering the driver in the car if he didn't get out?

I agree that it would of been a bad move to go hand to hand. I don't have a problem with what happened outside the car, it is what led up to that, that concerns me.

 

[camily]

Ok, check this out. Forward the video to 3:03 and watch the traffic. See the truck disappear? Now do it again and watch the timer in the upper right. Where did that minute go?
Now, as for the rest of the video, cop was a a-hole.