Another Reason for Legalization

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
camily said:
Yeah, I can see it now.....
Clerk: Will that be all ma'am?
Customer: I'll take a pack of Doobie Light 100's also please.
Clerk: No problem, that'll be $100 please.
Customer: Ok, thanks!
Clerk: Have a great day.
Customer: I will now!
:lol: :lmao: :yay:

:killingme :roflmao:
 

ylexot

Super Genius
Ok, here's my position on drug legalization. The FDA should have a single formula for drug ratings that is based on addictiveness, harmful effects, and medical benefits. It could be based on some other criteria as well, but the point is that it is based on science and testing instead of "I don't like it, therefore it is banned". If something exceeds a certain pre-defined criteria, it is then for adults only (18+) and there are laws concerning it's use (i.e. BAC levels for driving). If it exceeds and even higher criteria, it is then a controlled substance and requires a doctor's approval. Then there would be an even higher criteria where the substance would be banned completely. Apply this to all substances including alcohol and tobacco.
 

Nupe2

Well-Known Member
camily said:
Yeah, I can see it now.....
Clerk: Will that be all ma'am?
Customer: I'll take a pack of Doobie Light 100's also please.
Clerk: No problem, that'll be $100 please.
Customer: Ok, thanks!
Clerk: Have a great day.
Customer: I will now!
:lol: :lmao: :yay:

What about the "stepping stone (unintended humor) argument?" You know, "using marijuana can lead to other, more dangerous drugs." Do we counter that argument by legalizing all drugs? Where should it stop, Cocaine, Heroin? I don't think it will ever be legal if it's not by now. Think about it, most of Congress and the growing voting majority, "baby boomers," were teenagers or older during the heyday of pot smoking. There doesn't seem to be an outcry of support for legalization to the extent that you would think by those who were directly affected in one way or another by the cultural "revolution" of the sixties and seventies that greatly influenced the tolerance toward pot and other drugs.

Having said that, I still think its a matter of control. Most folks can't manufacture their own liquor; any clown with a grow light, seeds and little fertilizer can grow pot. The $100 granny spends on her pot could be invested in your own personal pot farm thereby cutting out the government. You know that will never fly. Even if "seedless" marijuana was sold you'd just create a black market for seeds.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
Nupe2 said:
Having said that, I still think its a matter of control. Most folks can't manufacture their own liquor; any clown with a grow light, seeds and little fertilizer can grow pot. The $100 granny spends on her pot could be invested in your own personal pot farm thereby cutting out the government. You know that will never fly. Even if "seedless" marijuana was sold you'd just create a black market for seeds.
Actually, making liquor is pretty damned easy and it can be made from sooooo many things. I could probably go to the hardware store and get everything I need for a distillery for <$100. Let's see...turkey fryer, sheet metal, some high temperature sealant, some copper tubing...DONE!
 

blazinlow89

Big Poppa
Well if marijuana does have benefits, why isnt it legalized. Think about it cigarettes and alcohol have no benefits that im aware of. Well excpet the nice drunk feeling after alot of alcohol. If something that has potential benefits is banned, then why not ban the things that have no benefits and are blamed on killing so many people a year. Our government is retarded. And if they decided to ban alcohol, or tobacco, there gonna have alot of pissed of people, besides the main reason for these products is money thats why a pack of cigs in md is like 3.50-4.00, while in SC there like 2.50 a pack. Its all about state taxes. If they where to legalize marijuana the money brought in from it could be used for other things, why spend the money when you can make it.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
Nupe2 said:
What about the "stepping stone (unintended humor) argument?" You know, "using marijuana can lead to other, more dangerous drugs." Do we counter that argument by legalizing all drugs? Where should it stop, Cocaine, Heroin? I don't think it will ever be legal if it's not by now. Think about it, most of Congress and the growing voting majority, "baby boomers," were teenagers or older during the heyday of pot smoking. There doesn't seem to be an outcry of support for legalization to the extent that you would think by those who were directly affected in one way or another by the cultural "revolution" of the sixties and seventies that greatly influenced the tolerance toward pot and other drugs.

Having said that, I still think its a matter of control. Most folks can't manufacture their own liquor; any clown with a grow light, seeds and little fertilizer can grow pot. The $100 granny spends on her pot could be invested in your own personal pot farm thereby cutting out the government. You know that will never fly. Even if "seedless" marijuana was sold you'd just create a black market for seeds.

Marijuana is not a gateway drug...
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
blazinlow89 said:
Well if marijuana does have benefits, why isnt it legalized. Think about it cigarettes and alcohol have no benefits that im aware of. Well excpet the nice drunk feeling after alot of alcohol. If something that has potential benefits is banned, then why not ban the things that have no benefits and are blamed on killing so many people a year. Our government is retarded. And if they decided to ban alcohol, or tobacco, there gonna have alot of pissed of people, besides the main reason for these products is money thats why a pack of cigs in md is like 3.50-4.00, while in SC there like 2.50 a pack. Its all about state taxes. If they where to legalize marijuana the money brought in from it could be used for other things, why spend the money when you can make it.

Goverment doesn't know where Marijuana is coming from - they can't track the money trail so they can't tax it. I can't think of how to elaborate this - it comes down to good ol' hard cash.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Goverment doesn't know where Marijuana is coming from - they can't track the money trail so they can't tax it. I can't think of how to elaborate this - it comes down to good ol' hard cash.
blazinlow89 said:
If they where to legalize marijuana the money brought in from it could be used for other things, why spend the money when you can make it.
:shrug:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Well...

...I'd like to comment on this issue as well.

Donuts have carbs in them. Does that help with alzheimers? And I have no idea why anyone would want to smoke donuts.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Of course...

AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Marijuana is not a gateway drug...


...it is.

it doesn't mean smoking dope will MAKE you a regualr user of harder drugs but if you smoke dope, like it and use it alot, chances are real good, near cerain, you will at least try something harder.

Dope is a gateway in the same way beer is a gateway to wine and liguor.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Marijuana is not a gateway drug...
I think you're either pre-disposed to chemical dependency or you're not. I've never smoked crack or anything like that, but I've smoked pot and taken speed - junk like that - and never really had a desire to do it all the time or try harder drugs.

Just because most people who get strung out on heroin started off smoking pot doesn't mean everyone who smokes pot will get strung out on heroin.

But I think for a lot of people who genuinely like being high, smoking pot will eventually be boring for them and they'll move on to stronger drugs. Maybe that's what they mean by a "gateway" drug.
 
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slaphappynmd

Guest
Larry Gude said:
...that's like saying donuts are good for you because they have carbs and your body needs carbs.

And another thing, that's like saying donuts are good for you because they have carbs and your body needs carbs.
:yay:
 

Nupe2

Well-Known Member
Larry Gude said:
...it is.

it doesn't mean smoking dope will MAKE you a regualr user of harder drugs but if you smoke dope, like it and use it alot, chances are real good, near cerain, you will at least try something harder.

Dope is a gateway in the same way beer is a gateway to wine and liguor.

:yeahthat: I can't think of a single "dope fiend (heroin user)" that I knew "back in the day" that started out using smack. They almost always started either smoking dope or drinking wine. Call it what you will, and no matter what, its illegal. End of story.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

New Member
vraiblonde said:
I think you're either pre-disposed to chemical dependency or you're not. I've never smoked crack or anything like that, but I've smoked pot and taken speed - junk like that - and never really had a desire to do it all the time or try harder drugs.

Just because most people who get strung out on heroin started off smoking pot doesn't mean everyone who smokes pot will get strung out on heroin.

But I think for a lot of people who genuinely like being high, smoking pot will eventually be boring for them and they'll move on to stronger drugs. Maybe that's what they mean by a "gateway" drug.

I've smoked pot a few times and have never felt the desire to need pot every night or to take other drugs. Just doesn't affect me (other than making me really hungry). I think for some people it is a gateway drug, but anything can be really.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
I've smoked pot a few times and have never felt the desire to need pot every night or to take other drugs. Just doesn't affect me (other than making me really hungry). I think for some people it is a gateway drug, but anything can be really.
I tried it once after I got out of the navy, no buzz, just made me tired and hungry. Since I do not need help with either of these, that was the last time.
:yawn:
 

camily

Peace
Pot is not a gateway drug. Trust me on this. There is truely no comparison beteen weed and coke, heroin, lsd, pcp ecstasy etc. No comparison whatsoever, except that they are all illegal. I hear MANY more alcohol related crimes vs. pot related ones.
 

mainman

Set Trippin
camily said:
Pot is not a gateway drug. Trust me on this. There is truely no comparison beteen weed and coke, heroin, lsd, pcp ecstasy etc. No comparison whatsoever, except that they are all illegal. I hear MANY more alcohol related crimes vs. pot related ones.
Are you saying that you have never known folks that blaze up all the time that all the sudden decide the weed just aint cuttin it anymore? I've known plenty of people like that....
 
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