I just moved into the CRE 2 weeks ago and my realtor told me she'd give me a "book of rules" and I have yet to receive it. Can I get one of these "books" from somewhere??
Thanks
go to the offcie and they will give you a copy.
Anyone interested in CRE talk?
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go to the offcie and they will give you a copy.
basshawg95
New Member
campground manager pay
you've definitely patted yourself on the back.....
my question is....how much do we pay the campground manager?
you've definitely patted yourself on the back.....
my question is....how much do we pay the campground manager?
Personnel matters are generally confidential.
hotcoffee
New Member
tscott150/hotcoffee,
Is the next iteration of the STD just going to be unilaterally passed, again? Or will it be put to membership for a vote this time?
There is a meeting scheduled at the Southern Community Center on June 12th. This is the time to let the Commissioners know what you think about the Special Taxing District.
hotcoffee
New Member
You've ten plus years to produce, what - nothing?
These are the things I have done....
The Light at Appeal Lane & HG Truman.... I wrote letters to the commissioners and used the editorials to get the light installed by the County on a State Road to cut down on the number of accidents before a child was killed.
The Gott Drive, Gunsmoke Trail extention.... I developed an alternative design that would allow us to cut through from Town Square Drive [via a traffic circle] past the Building where Dr. Nasr has his offices to Food Lion. The design was presented to the Commissioners and it is still awaiting funding. I also stood up to the county to stop the road on the back side of Food Lion [Gott Drive lol] from joining to Gunsmoke. At that time the people who live along that section of Gunsmoke did not want the traffic from Drum Point, etc., going past their private residences to the post office.
Task Force to Study the Infrastructure Needs of Private Communities in Calvert County.... I was appointed to the Task Force by the County Commissioners and helped to research and write a report that was presented to the Maryland General Assembly. This was a 3 year project.... and we met in Prince Frederick almost every Thursday evening.
- This work opened the door so that CRE could recieve FEMA funding based on the fact we have a Special Taxing District. [CRE recently received $100,000.00 to reimburse us for the damage done by Irene.]
- This work also opened the door so that CRE could apply for grants on a small scale.
- Recently I was apponted to the Common Ownership Infrastructure Advisory Committee - created by the Commissioners at the request of the Task Force - which will hopefully open more funding possibilties for the community...
I ran for the office of Commissioner so that I could bring the needs of CRE to the public eye... invested $1000.00 of my own money and talked extensively about how the members in CRE pay the same taxes at the pump as other citizens of Calvert County but receive little or no return for those taxes.... opening the door for discussions about the State Highway User Revenue funds... When others found a way to bring those funds into the community, County Commissioners were aware of the need to assist.... CRE received over $100,000.00 in SHUR funding
Accomplishments on the Board...
- In accordance with P&P #1, I worked with two other Board Members to combine the 6 P&P's governing financial matters into one P&P.
- Worked with the Board to re-write the Rules and Regulations, updating them.
- Stood up against the Board when the Roads Committee presented the last Special Taxing District Plan [the one we are finishing up now]... which they admitted [in a Board Meeting] included a request for more funding because they wanted room for the Commissioners to cut the amount [as they had done when Drum Point presented theirs]
- Worked with another Board Member to push for the clean up of the campgrounds where members were stealing electric and telephone service and building permanent structures on their spots.
- Developed, published, recorded, and reported the first survey of membership since 1991- other surveys were accomplished by committee with basically the same results
- Utilizing the MD Assessment & Taxation Database, built a data book listing the names of all owners along with the residential homes, rental homes, vacant lots, and POACRE lots which was later used by staff to check the database in the office
Committees I have served on
Architectural Review
Activities
Emergency Planning Task Force
Events
When we had no activities committee, and almost no activities budget I managed to organize and hold [with the assistance of the ROTC, and a couple of very helpful members before some of the current activities committee members stepped up]
- Easter Egg Hunt
- Christmas Party
- New Years Eve
- Car Show
- Lake Bash
Then after returning to the board I worked as Liaison with a couple of people to organize - Haunted Halloween
I was not on John Eney's Board....
I was not a party to the Whale issue....
I have been vocal against raising the fees without a plan approved by the membership so they know what they will get for their money as opposed to "we haven't done it in a while"
Year before last I was not available for the volunteerism due to Lyme disease.
When I got back on the Board I asked to be Activities Liaison and Travis asked me to step down after I worked with 2 people to put on the Haunted Halloween.
I worked with another board member and the Stables Commitee to save the stables and assisted with the 5 year plan
Volunteered on the Emergency Planning Task Force [using my CERT training]
Yes.... Travis has been a good President of the Board...
When I asked Travis to take the question of Security to the membership... He told me that he believes we need Security to keep CRE from looking like a slum and ended the conversation.
I believe Security is a waste of money, there's a more economical way to accomplish the tasks, so there is more funding for Maintenance and less funding for Operations....
I believe we are a Property Owner's Association. Travis seems to be happy with the Homeowners Association way of doing things.
Yep.... I've made a few enemies over the years.... but I've been active for a very long time and I'll step up this time to run for President of the Board because I think we need a Mult-year Capital Funding Plan to upgrade the campgrounds and the lake building... among other things....
You've been reading my words here for years.... first as residentofcre and then as hotcoffee....
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mmesser0
C-A-P-S CAPS CAPS CAPS!
Me too!
That was my first and definitely my LAST experience with a HOA. It was a complete mess when I lived there (I moved out 3 years ago).
Wirelessly posted
Becky, you are taking credit for things you didn't do and things that haven't happened.
In my experience YOU were a huge part of the problem everytime you served. You are dense and don't even understand that you don't understand. For those of you who doubt Becky's "JPC" character, all you need to do is talk to her for just a few minutes or read a bunch of her posts. Hell, she is even bragging about a failed county commissioner run, just like JPC claiming vitocry for a resounding defeat.
hotcoffee said:You've ten plus years to produce, what - nothing?
These are the things I have done....
The Light at Appeal Lane & HG Truman.... I wrote letters to the commissioners and used the editorials to get the light installed by the County on a State Road to cut down on the number of accidents before a child was killed.
The Gott Drive, Gunsmoke Trail extention.... I developed an alternative design that would allow us to cut through from Town Square Drive [via a traffic circle] past the Building where Dr. Nasr has his offices to Food Lion. The design was presented to the Commissioners and it is still awaiting funding. I also stood up to the county to stop the road on the back side of Food Lion [Gott Drive lol] from joining to Gunsmoke. At that time the people who live along that section of Gunsmoke did not want the traffic from Drum Point, etc., going past their private residences to the post office.
Task Force to Study the Infrastructure Needs of Private Communities in Calvert County.... I was appointed to the Task Force by the County Commissioners and helped to research and write a report that was presented to the Maryland General Assembly. This was a 3 year project.... and we met in Prince Frederick almost every Thursday evening.
- This work opened the door so that CRE could recieve FEMA funding based on the fact we have a Special Taxing District. [CRE recently received $100,000.00 to reimburse us for the damage done by Irene.]
- This work also opened the door so that CRE could apply for grants on a small scale.
- Recently I was apponted to the Common Ownership Infrastructure Advisory Committee - created by the Commissioners at the request of the Task Force - which will hopefully open more funding possibilties for the community...
I ran for the office of Commissioner so that I could bring the needs of CRE to the public eye... invested $1000.00 of my own money and talked extensively about how the members in CRE pay the same taxes at the pump as other citizens of Calvert County but receive little or no return for those taxes.... opening the door for discussions about the State Highway User Revenue funds... When others found a way to bring those funds into the community, County Commissioners were aware of the need to assist.... CRE received over $100,000.00 in SHUR funding
Accomplishments on the Board...
- In accordance with P&P #1, I worked with two other Board Members to combine the 6 P&P's governing financial matters into one P&P.
- Worked with the Board to re-write the Rules and Regulations, updating them.
- Stood up against the Board when the Roads Committee presented the last Special Taxing District Plan [the one we are finishing up now]... which they admitted [in a Board Meeting] included a request for more funding because they wanted room for the Commissioners to cut the amount [as they had done when Drum Point presented theirs]
- Worked with another Board Member to push for the clean up of the campgrounds where members were stealing electric and telephone service and building permanent structures on their spots.
- Developed, published, recorded, and reported the first survey of membership since 1991- other surveys were accomplished by committee with basically the same results
- Utilizing the MD Assessment & Taxation Database, built a data book listing the names of all owners along with the residential homes, rental homes, vacant lots, and POACRE lots which was later used by staff to check the database in the office
Committees I have served on
Architectural Review
Activities
Emergency Planning Task Force
Events
When we had no activities committee, and almost no activities budget I managed to organize and hold [with the assistance of the ROTC, and a couple of very helpful members before some of the current activities committee members stepped up]
- Easter Egg Hunt
- Christmas Party
- New Years Eve
- Car Show
- Lake Bash
Then after returning to the board I worked as Liaison with a couple of people to organize- Haunted Halloween
I was not on John Eney's Board....
I was not a party to the Whale issue....
I have been vocal against raising the fees without a plan approved by the membership so they know what they will get for their money as opposed to "we haven't done it in a while"
Year before last I was not available for the volunteerism due to Lyme disease.
When I got back on the Board I asked to be Activities Liaison and Travis asked me to step down after I worked with 2 people to put on the Haunted Halloween.
I worked with another board member and the Stables Commitee to save the stables and assisted with the 5 year plan
Volunteered on the Emergency Planning Task Force [using my CERT training]
Yes.... Travis has been a good President of the Board...
When I asked Travis to take the question of Security to the membership... He told me that he believes we need Security to keep CRE from looking like a slum and ended the conversation.
I believe Security is a waste of money, there's a more economical way to accomplish the tasks, so there is more funding for Maintenance and less funding for Operations....
I believe we are a Property Owner's Association. Travis seems to be happy with the Homeowners Association way of doing things.
Yep.... I've made a few enemies over the years.... but I've been active for a very long time and I'll step up this time to run for President of the Board because I think we need a Mult-year Capital Funding Plan to upgrade the campgrounds and the lake building... among other things....
You've been reading my words here for years.... first as residentofcre and then as hotcoffee....
Becky, you are taking credit for things you didn't do and things that haven't happened.
In my experience YOU were a huge part of the problem everytime you served. You are dense and don't even understand that you don't understand. For those of you who doubt Becky's "JPC" character, all you need to do is talk to her for just a few minutes or read a bunch of her posts. Hell, she is even bragging about a failed county commissioner run, just like JPC claiming vitocry for a resounding defeat.
You know, I lived in CRE longer than anyplace I've ever lived in my life. And I don't miss it.
Lots of private communities somehow manage to meet their needs without the constant flow of cash that seemed to bleed out from me year after year in the form of HOA fees and the Special Tax District. I couldn't for the life of me figure out where all the money was going, but I sure didn't want to keep giving it to them just to find out eventually.
I still don't know where all the damned money goes. I swear a great deal of it went into the process of collecting it from me.
Lots of private communities somehow manage to meet their needs without the constant flow of cash that seemed to bleed out from me year after year in the form of HOA fees and the Special Tax District. I couldn't for the life of me figure out where all the money was going, but I sure didn't want to keep giving it to them just to find out eventually.
I still don't know where all the damned money goes. I swear a great deal of it went into the process of collecting it from me.
hotcoffee
New Member
Wirelessly posted
Becky, you are taking credit for things you didn't do and things that haven't happened.
In my experience YOU were a huge part of the problem everytime you served. You are dense and don't even understand that you don't understand. For those of you who doubt Becky's "JPC" character, all you need to do is talk to her for just a few minutes or read a bunch of her posts. Hell, she is even bragging about a failed county commissioner run, just like JPC claiming vitocry for a resounding defeat.
I had written in a lot of sources where you could check the information I put in here.... but I decided to take it out....
Plenty of people know that what I wrote is the truth.... Geeze I've been online here for years.... and you've been giving me grief for years.... it's all documented somewhere....
It's ok if you jab me again... I know you love me.... just as much as you hate Cusick....
So... I didn't win Commissioner.... I made my point and eventually we got SHUR funds through the Commissioners I campaigned against....and then county SHUR funds got cut and our funding went down....
I know I have a lot of people who don't agree with me.... but so be it.... I can't please you all.... the items I put in the post are my accomplishments... Anyone who posts as much as I do has to be careful to tell it like it is cause what you right is always out there somewhere....
Like I said... Travis has done a good job.... We have different philosophies...
He likes Security.... I think the Security force at CRE is a waste of money and the members should be allowed to vote to save it or terminate it....
He likes running CRE as an HOA.... I would like to move us to a POA.... even if it would take a change in the law....
Becky Tice
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ReadingTheNews
Active Member
There is a meeting scheduled at the Southern Community Center on June 12th. This is the time to let the Commissioners know what you think about the Special Taxing District.
I went to the last Commissioners Meeting about the STD, and wrote a follow-up email letting them know I was opposed to it. It was voted on and passed by them anyway.
What give them the right to vote on it, and not the residents that actually live in CRE?
hotcoffee
New Member
OmyGawd
Active Member
These are the things I have done....
The Light at Appeal Lane & HG Truman.... I wrote letters to the commissioners and used the editorials to get the light installed by the County on a State Road to cut down on the number of accidents before a child was killed.
The Gott Drive, Gunsmoke Trail extention.... I developed an alternative design that would allow us to cut through from Town Square Drive [via a traffic circle] past the Building where Dr. Nasr has his offices to Food Lion. The design was presented to the Commissioners and it is still awaiting funding. I also stood up to the county to stop the road on the back side of Food Lion [Gott Drive lol] from joining to Gunsmoke. At that time the people who live along that section of Gunsmoke did not want the traffic from Drum Point, etc., going past their private residences to the post office.
Task Force to Study the Infrastructure Needs of Private Communities in Calvert County.... I was appointed to the Task Force by the County Commissioners and helped to research and write a report that was presented to the Maryland General Assembly. This was a 3 year project.... and we met in Prince Frederick almost every Thursday evening.
- This work opened the door so that CRE could recieve FEMA funding based on the fact we have a Special Taxing District. [CRE recently received $100,000.00 to reimburse us for the damage done by Irene.]
- This work also opened the door so that CRE could apply for grants on a small scale.
- Recently I was apponted to the Common Ownership Infrastructure Advisory Committee - created by the Commissioners at the request of the Task Force - which will hopefully open more funding possibilties for the community...
I ran for the office of Commissioner so that I could bring the needs of CRE to the public eye... invested $1000.00 of my own money and talked extensively about how the members in CRE pay the same taxes at the pump as other citizens of Calvert County but receive little or no return for those taxes.... opening the door for discussions about the State Highway User Revenue funds... When others found a way to bring those funds into the community, County Commissioners were aware of the need to assist.... CRE received over $100,000.00 in SHUR funding
Accomplishments on the Board...
- In accordance with P&P #1, I worked with two other Board Members to combine the 6 P&P's governing financial matters into one P&P.
- Worked with the Board to re-write the Rules and Regulations, updating them.
- Stood up against the Board when the Roads Committee presented the last Special Taxing District Plan [the one we are finishing up now]... which they admitted [in a Board Meeting] included a request for more funding because they wanted room for the Commissioners to cut the amount [as they had done when Drum Point presented theirs]
- Worked with another Board Member to push for the clean up of the campgrounds where members were stealing electric and telephone service and building permanent structures on their spots.
- Developed, published, recorded, and reported the first survey of membership since 1991- other surveys were accomplished by committee with basically the same results
- Utilizing the MD Assessment & Taxation Database, built a data book listing the names of all owners along with the residential homes, rental homes, vacant lots, and POACRE lots which was later used by staff to check the database in the office
Committees I have served on
Architectural Review
Activities
Emergency Planning Task Force
Events
When we had no activities committee, and almost no activities budget I managed to organize and hold [with the assistance of the ROTC, and a couple of very helpful members before some of the current activities committee members stepped up]
- Easter Egg Hunt
- Christmas Party
- New Years Eve
- Car Show
- Lake Bash
Then after returning to the board I worked as Liaison with a couple of people to organize- Haunted Halloween
I was not on John Eney's Board....
I was not a party to the Whale issue....
I have been vocal against raising the fees without a plan approved by the membership so they know what they will get for their money as opposed to "we haven't done it in a while"
Year before last I was not available for the volunteerism due to Lyme disease.
When I got back on the Board I asked to be Activities Liaison and Travis asked me to step down after I worked with 2 people to put on the Haunted Halloween.
I worked with another board member and the Stables Commitee to save the stables and assisted with the 5 year plan
Volunteered on the Emergency Planning Task Force [using my CERT training]
Yes.... Travis has been a good President of the Board...
When I asked Travis to take the question of Security to the membership... He told me that he believes we need Security to keep CRE from looking like a slum and ended the conversation.
I believe Security is a waste of money, there's a more economical way to accomplish the tasks, so there is more funding for Maintenance and less funding for Operations....
I believe we are a Property Owner's Association. Travis seems to be happy with the Homeowners Association way of doing things.
Yep.... I've made a few enemies over the years.... but I've been active for a very long time and I'll step up this time to run for President of the Board because I think we need a Mult-year Capital Funding Plan to upgrade the campgrounds and the lake building... among other things....
You've been reading my words here for years.... first as residentofcre and then as hotcoffee....
Wrote letters, appointed to task force, R&R's not been approved have they? Produce solid evidence of accomplishments; all I see is wishes and requests, not results that can be traced back to you specifically.
Volunteers on Activities refused to serve with Becky and she had to be asked to step down; the results of which have been a very robust monthly Activities events under the current committee chair that are very well received and attended.
Ran for BOCC and lost because nobody buys her self important rhetoric.
Becky's CERT training is 10 years old. It didn't help much when we had hurricane Irene last year that devastated CRE. This year when the CERT training was held, Becky didn't bother to show up to support those being trained at any time during the 3 day training that OUR MEMBERS took time to get done. Who would YOU rely on in an emergency?? I'm going with the group that has up to date training. When the trained CERT group wanted to hold a meeting for further planning, they were shut down by Becky. Who would you rely on in an emergency?
The stables 5 year plan hasn't gone so well. The barn that is supposed to come down for a year now is still standing, barely.
A data book for employees to use? Who would you rely on to continue forward progress in CRE to bring current technology and current methodologies to solve problems vs. staying stuck in 1970?? We need to utilize up to date technology to be able to continue to do more with less.
You've had 10+ years to implement a Multi year Capital Funding Plan (i.e. have CRE members pay more $$$) and you haven't produced anything. How are you funding this? Faerie dust and magical volunteers? The volunteers won't work for you. They've proven that over the past 2 years.
It's more hot air and nothingness and someone who can't make the required Saturday meetings. And if that is what you want for CRE, then you know who to vote for.
If you eliminate security, what happens then? The county spends little time in here, who is going to enforce the rules and regs? I hope you have a plan for that. I know that you have spoken out against the STD before, how do expect to keep up the infrastructure we have now if it is removed?
5 year plans are useless, circumstances and people change. What happened to the 5 year plan for the stables? that ended less than 6 months in. WHY????? How do you intend to pay for all the things on the list you have provided? We want facts not "hope and change", we've all seen where that has gotten us.
libertytyranny
Dream Stealer
Frankly it makes me ill to think of all the money being sucked out of me (which, by the way is a hardship for me, and many of the other homeowners in the neighborhood. If you didn't realize, most people live there because it is the most affordable area for young families and those with moderate income)
The "security" IS USELESSSSSS. they do nothing but ride around in the ranch club trucks, speeding through the neighborhood and doing sidejobs on their time. Rules and regulations? gtfo yourselves. Hello..a full1/4 of the houses in there are nothing but glorified storage sheds. And I won't hate on folks because sometimes thats all you can afford. but really, a bunch of folks driving around in trucks does nothing.
I do not see why millions of dollars is neccesary to run that damn place. My road isn't paved, and I do not use a single amenity. EVER. I don't even go get my stickers, theres no need.
From what Ive seen people seem to think that the ranch club is some kind of business. It isn't. Its a neighborhood with REAL people living in it. Real people living in the middle of tough times, trying to afford to live somewhere. stables? skateparks? campgrounds? what do like, 5% of people actually use those things? sell the so called amenities, bulldoze any dilapidated buildings and be done with it. Its ridiculous that my HOA fees and special taxes and special assesments far outstrip the fees in better, nicer, richer neighborhoods, for which I get nothing tangible in return.
I love my house. I have good neighbors. I am thankful that I can afford my house in these times when other people are losing theirs. But I am not some bank to keep pulling money out of so that morons on the interenet can fight about all the lovely things they did.
The "security" IS USELESSSSSS. they do nothing but ride around in the ranch club trucks, speeding through the neighborhood and doing sidejobs on their time. Rules and regulations? gtfo yourselves. Hello..a full1/4 of the houses in there are nothing but glorified storage sheds. And I won't hate on folks because sometimes thats all you can afford. but really, a bunch of folks driving around in trucks does nothing.
I do not see why millions of dollars is neccesary to run that damn place. My road isn't paved, and I do not use a single amenity. EVER. I don't even go get my stickers, theres no need.
From what Ive seen people seem to think that the ranch club is some kind of business. It isn't. Its a neighborhood with REAL people living in it. Real people living in the middle of tough times, trying to afford to live somewhere. stables? skateparks? campgrounds? what do like, 5% of people actually use those things? sell the so called amenities, bulldoze any dilapidated buildings and be done with it. Its ridiculous that my HOA fees and special taxes and special assesments far outstrip the fees in better, nicer, richer neighborhoods, for which I get nothing tangible in return.
I love my house. I have good neighbors. I am thankful that I can afford my house in these times when other people are losing theirs. But I am not some bank to keep pulling money out of so that morons on the interenet can fight about all the lovely things they did.
ReadingTheNews
Active Member
^THIS.
(my road isn't paved either; I never expected it to be.)
^And this.
I agree with what was said about not picking up the decals; my husband argues that we should get them because we've paid for them. When the kiddos were small, we used to go to the beaches/lake quite a bit, but they are grown and (almost) gone, and it's been quite a while since we've been to any of them. I don't think we've ever used any of the other amenities.
MMDad
Lem Putt
That made my brain hurt.
Portmanteau was on my word of the day calendar and it fit here, sorry about your brain.
This thread is like being at a BBQ!!!
You must be right. We were treated to 10-15 minutes of firecrackers going off around 930 last night. Some people will always be a##holes.
Never did see a security(?) vehicle.