Apparently Trump absolutely PACKED Madison Square Garden

Chopticon64

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Video of the line to get into the Rally

Christ, replace “x” with “twitter” when you posts those links so the preview shows up so we don’t have to load it in X.

Vira has explained this in countless posts, it’s just one of the many dumb things Musk did when he fired 75% of the staff, his intention was to drive traffic from somd.com to X and not have people rely on the previews.
 

Grumpy

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He then proceeds to say he’s gone to Trump rally’s since 2015 and was at the Jan 6 one. No, you are not an “average guy”, you are a foaming at the mouth MAGA who needs a life other than watching an obese elderly billionaire tell you who to blame for your problems (news flash, your problems are caused by you!)
So?
 

Chopticon64

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These folks, you folks, think you’re the average person, you’re not, you’re far far fringe.

Hell, I know I’m fringe, I’m here posting at 10:30 on a Sunday.

The “average” person has never been to a rally, much less a Trump rally, much less several Trump rally’s, and then says he was at Jan 6th. No, that’s a far right extremist or Trump worshipping cultist.
 

Grumpy

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These folks, you folks, think you’re the average person, you’re not, you’re far far fringe.

Hell, I know I’m fringe, I’m here posting at 10:30 on a Sunday.

The “average” person has never been to a rally, much less a Trump rally, much less several Trump rally’s, and then says he was at Jan 6th. No, that’s a far right extremist or Trump worshipping cultist.
So?
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Christ, replace “x” with “twitter” when you posts those links so the preview shows up so we don’t have to load it in X.

Vira has explained this in countless posts, it’s just one of the many dumb things Musk did when he fired 75% of the staff, his intention was to drive traffic from somd.com to X and not have people rely on the previews.
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22AcaciaAve

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She just had a massive rally in Houston that reiterated her message, how are democrats not on message? I’m not the Democratic Party, so I can’t imagine you’re saying I’m not staying on message.

But trump literally asked this comedian to speak tonight…I agree, this has ALWAYS been his message



What is that message? If you're saying it is to tell the American people not to vote for Trump because he is a fascist, unhinged, and would be unchecked then I agree, she is on message.

I don't care about that message anymore than I cared about Trump saying she is stupid. What are you going to do about inflation? She said she would go after companies that are price gouging. That may have happened during the pandemic when the supply chain was shut down, but it's not happening now. And yes, inflation has slowed....well after the damage has been done. She has backed increases in the minimum wage. Great, add more costs to manufacturers, that should fix inflation.

What are you going to do to fix the border problem? Trump is very clear, he will increase funding for ICE and everyone they find who is here illegally will be deported. You may not like that message, but is very clear. Democrats ridiculed the wall in 2016. They spent 4 years trying to kill funding for it. Biden immediately defunded what was left of the wall. Now, Harris says she supports building a wall in some places. She also has said she supports a path to citizenship for people who are here illegally. What would that look like? And why are we rewarding people who go around our laws to get here?

I think Trump's message is very clear. You may not like it, and if you don't, then don't vote for him. I'm trying to figure out what Kamala Harris' message is and how she plans to enact it. For the last two years the only thing Biden seemed to be worrying about is how he can forgive student loan debt. I'm not sure I care about any issue less than that. These people knew they were taking out a loan, pay it back and stop expecting my tax dollars to bail you out!

I remember the chaos of the Trump administration. I remember the revolving door in his cabinet and him not willing to take anyone's advice over his own feelings. I also realize how absolutely terrible the Biden administration has been. Only the Carter administration has matched that. And at least I can say that Jimmy Carter was honest even if he had no answers to the issues of the day. So give me a reason to vote for you. A reason that is not, "vote for me, because I'm not him and he is a bad man." I haven't heard anything positive about what she would do to change things and we are about one week out.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
What is that message? If you're saying it is to tell the American people not to vote for Trump because he is a fascist, unhinged, and would be unchecked then I agree, she is on message.
And that's at the heart of it. If you're hiring a plumber and all he can tell you is that the OTHER plumber in town is bad, it doesn't say a damned thing about if he is even CAPABLE of doing the job. "Other plumber bad" is not a compelling reason to believe you even know which end of a pipe wrench to use. Years ago, I had a procedure done, and there existed the remote possibilty of death. I asked my surgeon - he said he'd DONE it over 3000 times and never lost a patient. If you're hiring a surgeon, "other surgeon bad" is not an argument.

An election is a hiring process. That is exactly what it is. The public is making their choice to hire someone for an important job. The Presidency is a very serious, very demanding job requiring a wide range of leadership skills, knowledge and accomplishments. It's not enough to have ideas on how to do something. You need experience in having done them. Thus far, Kamala has only SPECIFICALLY articulated a handful of ideas, most of them are terrible and a couple of them are outright unconstitutional.

Either the past four years are evidence of Kamala's leadership in the White House - or evidence of NO leadership. She either was "the last person in the room" - the person making decisions WITH Joe Biden and thus, accountable and responsible for the state of the nation - or she's done damned near nothing. She tries to make the case repeatedly that she is NOT Biden and would do things differently - but she has also said she wouldn't do ANYTHING differently. IF she were in the same situation, she'd make the same choices.

So we either have two full Presidential terms to compare - Trump's vs Kamala's - or Trump's vs. virtually zero executive experience. She either was a part of Biden's decisions or not at all. I can't believe the idiocy of the fear campaign of the Democratic Party - we have a complete term in the White House to use. If he is going to be an authoritarian dictator, it sure didn't seem like it when he was there. Comparing the two terms - in my opinion - Trump's was better. The current one is disastrous no matter who you blame.
 

SamSpade

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I think there's also the elephant in the room - Joe's mental capacity, and I don't mean his intelligence, although in his very long tenure in the Senate, he has NEVER distinguished himself as an intellectual. His mind has been going, and the Democratic Party has publicly been in extensive denial of it even as the REST OF THE WORLD is lampooning what is patently obvious.

Even NOW - Kamala and the Democratic Party are reluctant to clearly admit it. They REMOVED AN ELECTED NOMINEE from their party and selected their nominee in lieu of everything - essentially ZERO voter input - because - what? He was going to lose? POLLING said it looked bad? When asked about it, Kamala merely says that Joe "had a bad night" regarding the debate. There's never been an explanation for why he was removed from the nomination. And he was REMOVED. The timeline between him saying he was staying in, to getting out can be measured in HOURS. He didn't remove himself from running because it was "for the good of the country". It was his mental state. We know it, you know it, the entire world knows it, but for some reason, no one in the Democratic Party will openly say so.

Of course. Because they would have to admit that the CURRENT PRESIDENT is mentally incompetent. And that they and Kamala have been complicit in propping him up as a standin for whatever choices they wanted to make. It was a perfect situation for your typical Washington kingmaker - find a willing doofus who will do absolutely anything you ask him to.

So many are busting on Jill Biden - and it is deserved. But Kamala shares if not OWNS most of the blame. She either BELIEVES that his mind is sharp - and is thus MASSIVELY stupid - or knows it is not - and is MASSIVELY corrupt. I can't think of a third possibility.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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She just had a massive rally in Houston that reiterated her message, how are democrats not on message? I’m not the Democratic Party, so I can’t imagine you’re saying I’m not staying on message.



What Harris did WAS LIE TO DEMOCRATS claiming there was going to me a concert, 1000's left as soon as Beyonce did and is was clear there was NOT going to be a concert ... continually getting boo for the rest of the event
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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I think there's also the elephant in the room - Joe's mental capacity, and I don't mean his intelligence, although in his very long tenure in the Senate, he has NEVER distinguished himself as an intellectual. His mind has been going, and the Democratic Party has publicly been in extensive denial of it even as the REST OF THE WORLD is lampooning what is patently obvious.


Joe is a simpleton .....
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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AOC And Tim Walz MELT DOWN Over Comedian Telling 'RACIST' Jokes At Trump Madison Square Garden Rally​



 

Chopticon64

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What is that message? If you're saying it is to tell the American people not to vote for Trump because he is a fascist, unhinged, and would be unchecked then I agree, she is on message.

I don't care about that message anymore than I cared about Trump saying she is stupid. What are you going to do about inflation? She said she would go after companies that are price gouging. That may have happened during the pandemic when the supply chain was shut down, but it's not happening now. And yes, inflation has slowed....well after the damage has been done. She has backed increases in the minimum wage. Great, add more costs to manufacturers, that should fix inflation.

What are you going to do to fix the border problem? Trump is very clear, he will increase funding for ICE and everyone they find who is here illegally will be deported. You may not like that message, but is very clear. Democrats ridiculed the wall in 2016. They spent 4 years trying to kill funding for it. Biden immediately defunded what was left of the wall. Now, Harris says she supports building a wall in some places. She also has said she supports a path to citizenship for people who are here illegally. What would that look like? And why are we rewarding people who go around our laws to get here?

I think Trump's message is very clear. You may not like it, and if you don't, then don't vote for him. I'm trying to figure out what Kamala Harris' message is and how she plans to enact it. For the last two years the only thing Biden seemed to be worrying about is how he can forgive student loan debt. I'm not sure I care about any issue less than that. These people knew they were taking out a loan, pay it back and stop expecting my tax dollars to bail you out!

I remember the chaos of the Trump administration. I remember the revolving door in his cabinet and him not willing to take anyone's advice over his own feelings. I also realize how absolutely terrible the Biden administration has been. Only the Carter administration has matched that. And at least I can say that Jimmy Carter was honest even if he had no answers to the issues of the day. So give me a reason to vote for you. A reason that is not, "vote for me, because I'm not him and he is a bad man." I haven't heard anything positive about what she would do to change things and we are about one week out.
The message is that it’ll be a continuation of the Biden administration and policies. I know some of you folks think America is circling the drain, but unemployment is low, the stock market is at record highs, we’ve never pumped this much oil before, the boarder issue had a meaningful step toward helping it but Trump told the republican senators to sabotage it. Biden got us out of Afghanistan, something Trump didn’t have the courage to do, even though it was HIS plan that Biden executed.

Her website has additional policy measures, but if the Democrats don’t get control of congress there isn’t much hope things will pass.

Like you said, inflation is back under control, we’re past the dreadful impacts of Trumps stimulus during COVID.

The difference is many here think Trump did no wrong, they seem to have no memory of COVID, other than gas went to below $2 a gallon because no one was leaving their house.
 

phreddyp

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I'm not worried. I'm not paranoid. I'm simply stating a fact that can be looked up by anyone. Trump used MSG as a rally point because it is an iconic building well known to everyone in America, and in NY it is going to get max publicity coverage. He is also a native New Yorker, born in Queens, and I'm sure he wanted to thumb his nose at all of the prosecutors up there.

Democrats appear to be grasping hard at any narrative they can to paint Trump as a Fascist. If they really believed they were winning at this point why not stay on message? It really feels like desperation on their part. Trump showed that earlier when Harris entered the race, but now he seem to be the one staying on message. It's really been a weird campaign season.
It doesn't feel like desperation, it is desperation to a tee. You only have to read chopicon64's posts to remove any doubt that it isn't. Everything is Trump negatives, nothing positive about Kamala plans or accomplishments, the left is drowning in their own rhetoric!
 
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