Armed Officers at Schools?

[Kyle]

BS on both counts. But good attempt!

You can't resist doubling down on your ignorance can you?

Is it compulsive? Reflexive? Deliberate?

 

[black dog]

BS on both counts. But good attempt!

You have no ####ing clue.. Maybe if you were just 20 years older.
The controversial directive ( form Pres Bush ) states that “it is DoD Policy” to “limit and control the carrying of firearms by DoD military and civilian personnel.”
“The authorization to carry firearms shall be issued only to qualified personnel when there is a reasonable expectation that life or DoD assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried,” it says.

Either Agent McCarthy or Wanko ( the agent with the uzi ) easily could have shot Hinkley at that time....

 

[Sapidus]

You have no ####ing clue.. Maybe if you were just 20 years older.
The controversial directive ( form Pres Bush ) states that “it is DoD Policy” to “limit and control the carrying of firearms by DoD military and civilian personnel.”
“The authorization to carry firearms shall be issued only to qualified personnel when there is a reasonable expectation that life or DoD assets will be jeopardized if firearms are not carried,” it says.

Either Agent McCarthy or Wanko ( the agent with the uzi ) easily could have shot Hinkley at that time....

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We are taking prior. Preventing the original shooting. Like our idiot President is proposing with teachers.

No one is saying they couldn’t have shot him after he was subdued

 

[officeguy]

We are taking prior. Preventing the original shooting. Like our idiot President is proposing with teachers.

A teacher saw Cruz entering the school and knew what was about to happen because Cruz was a known dangerous nut. This is one of the few cases where a system with armed teachers in the school could have made a difference.

 

[officeguy]

The solution, if there is any, is not to deal with the 'guns' aspect of this. The solution is to deal with the 'nutcase' aspect.

 

[Sapidus]

A teacher saw Cruz entering the school and knew what was about to happen because Cruz was a known dangerous nut. This is one of the few cases where a system with armed teachers in the school could have made a difference.

There was an armed guard on campus who did nothing

 

[black dog]

We are taking prior. Preventing the original shooting. Like our idiot President is proposing with teachers.

No one is saying they couldn’t have shot him after he was subdued

Don't keep changing up.... The forever changing question...

 

[Sapidus]

Don't keep changing up.... The forever changing question...

I never wavered. I mentioned Ft Hood. You made an excuse, Reagan an exception, Parkland another excuse.

Three examples of more guns not helping the situation or deterring innocents being shoot

 

[officeguy]

There was an armed guard on campus who did nothing

Actually, it was a cop. The fact that he didn't do what he was expected to do doesn't disprove the concept. It just proves that he was not able to perform at the level expected from him.

There have been plenty of cases where a simple armed securirty guard or armored car driver stopped attacks. Most of them have the bare minimum in training and are not well armed (often enough still carrying revolvers).

 

[Sapidus]

Actually, it was a cop. The fact that he didn't do what he was expected to do doesn't disprove the concept. It just proves that he was not able to perform at the level expected from him.

There have been plenty of cases where a simple armed securirty guard or armored car driver stopped attacks. Most of them have the bare minimum in training and are not well armed (often enough still carrying revolvers).

What happened at Ft. Hood? No one was armed?

How many excuses will you come up with before you admit the absence of a gun would have saved more Lives then the presence of more guns?

 

[black dog]

I never wavered. I mentioned Ft Hood. You made an excuse, Reagan an exception, Parkland another excuse.

Three examples of more guns not helping the situation or deterring innocents being shoot

Yeah, its just that the facts are confusing to you.. Google some more, Also check AOL Black Voices...

 

[Ken King]

What happened at Ft. Hood? No one was armed?

How many excuses will you come up with before you admit the absence of a gun would have saved more Lives then the presence of more guns?

Not at the Soldier Readiness Processing Center, no one was armed except Hasan. It wasn't until the first responders showed up that other weapons were there. Do you think every soldier, sailor, airman and marine are armed at all times?

 

[Kyle]

Not at the Soldier Readiness Processing Center, no one was armed except Hasan. It wasn't until the first responders showed up that other weapons were there. Do you think every soldier, sailor, airman and marine are armed at all times?

Black dog already told him and showed him and the stupid little #### still can't understand it.

 

[black dog]

Interesting read here.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/politics/parkland-school-shooting-broward-deputies/index.html

 

[Midnightrider]

He has no legal obligaiton to do what he did. It's been decided in courts. Hence why he and two other officers were suspended, not fired.

I agree he probably should have gone in there, but he didn't. He'd have his union-backed lawyer find some training material on mass shootings that says what he did was right, and be free to get back to work.

You have an awful lot of assumption in that post.

Addionally, his obligation to do something has not been determined in court. All that has been determined in court is that the police can not be sued if the police don’t respond when you call or prevent a future crime. I have seen no precedent regarding an officer getting canned for not attempting to stop an on going crime.

 

[GURPS]

You are the only one talking about being protected.
The rest of us are talking about an officers duty to try to stop crime he is witnessing.

WTF do you thing PROTECTED IS ...


pro·tect
prəˈtekt/
verb
past tense: protected; past participle: protected keep safe from harm or injury. "he tried to protect Kelly from the attack"

synonyms: keep safe, keep from harm, save, safeguard, preserve, defend, shield, cushion, insulate, hedge, shelter, screen, secure, fortify, guard, watch over, look after, take care of, keep; inoculate "they fought to protect their homes and families"

antonyms: expose, neglect, attack, harm aim to preserve (a threatened plant or animal species) by legislating against collecting or hunting.

restrict by law access to or development of (land) so as to preserve its natural state.

"logging is continuing in protected areas in violation of an international agreement"

synonyms: secured, sheltered, in safe hands, safe, guarded, out of danger, safeguarded, preserved

"the nation's largest protected wetland"

(of an insurance policy) promise to pay (someone) an agreed amount in the event of loss, injury, fire, theft, or other misfortune.

"in the event of your death, your family will be protected against any financial problems that may arise"

 

[black dog]

WTF do you thing PROTECTED IS ...


pro·tect
prəˈtekt/
verb
past tense: protected; past participle: protected keep safe from harm or injury. "he tried to protect Kelly from the attack"

synonyms: keep safe, keep from harm, save, safeguard, preserve, defend, shield, cushion, insulate, hedge, shelter, screen, secure, fortify, guard, watch over, look after, take care of, keep; inoculate "they fought to protect their homes and families"

antonyms: expose, neglect, attack, harm aim to preserve (a threatened plant or animal species) by legislating against collecting or hunting.

restrict by law access to or development of (land) so as to preserve its natural state.

"logging is continuing in protected areas in violation of an international agreement"

synonyms: secured, sheltered, in safe hands, safe, guarded, out of danger, safeguarded, preserved

"the nation's largest protected wetland"

(of an insurance policy) promise to pay (someone) an agreed amount in the event of loss, injury, fire, theft, or other misfortune.

"in the event of your death, your family will be protected against any financial problems that may arise"

I told him I can't help him understand it,. Maybe he would do better
if I post it in ebonics?

 

[officeguy]

What happened at Ft. Hood? No one was armed?

Nobody in the medical facility was armed. It took a police response to stop the attack.

As for the Broward deputies: The Fort Hood shooting was ended by civilian base police officers who didn't take cover and waited for backup. Both of them engaged the shooter. While he managed to get past the first one (Sgt Munley) he was stopped by the second one (Sgt Todd). When the traitor Hassan finally fell, he still had 170 rounds loaded in magazines in his pockets. The courageous actions of Munley and Todd reduced the number of people killed and injured in Hassans attack.

The Ft Hood attack does not support whatever feeble point it is you are trying to make.

 

[littlelady]

Nobody in the medical facility was armed. It took a police response to stop the attack.

As for the Broward deputies: The Fort Hood shooting was ended by civilian base police officers who didn't take cover and waited for backup. Both of them engaged the shooter. While he managed to get past the first one (Sgt Munley) he was stopped by the second one (Sgt Todd). When the traitor Hassan finally fell, he still had 170 rounds loaded in magazines in his pockets. The courageous actions of Munley and Todd reduced the number of people killed and injured in Hassans attack.

The Ft Hood attack does not support whatever feeble point it is you are trying to make.

Thanks for being so knowledgeable on the subject. I can’t keep up!

 

[seven]

BREAKING: CNN Reports FOUR Broward County Deputies Waited Outside School As Children Were Massacred

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27523/breaking-cnn-reports-four-broward-county-deputies-ben-shapiro#