Biden Is About to Commit an Impeachable Offense

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I'd like to see the numbers, blacks [ anyone really ] step up and PROVE you deserve Loan dissolution
 

PeoplesElbow

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Overall - there needs to be either an overhaul of how we use higher education in the hiring process or what is required to be proficient in an area.

I don't see why a four year degree is necessary to show someone can do a specific job. I got a degree in engineering. While the math was important - I didn't need most of it. I didn't need any of the chemistry required. Physics was important - but - honestly - didn't need four semesters of it. Not if I was planning a career in computer science or electrical engineering. Easily half of it fell into the mechanical engineering aspect.

I mean, ok, I get it. You don't know WHAT you will need. And that's ALWAYS true, but I have yet to hear of a colleague say they use ANY text they used in college except as a paperweight.

There simply MUST be a way to fast track someone into their chosen career without squandering four years and tens of thousands of dollars. Because honest to God - newly minted graduates often don't know much beyond what we teach them on the job.
I use 5-6 of my books quite often. I don't use the thermodynamics or heat transfer stuff, but I could have easily been hired in a position that was more thermal/fluids related than structural. I also use a statistics book that I used as an elective.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
I use 5-6 of my books quite often. I don't use the thermodynamics or heat transfer stuff, but I could have easily been hired in a position that was more thermal/fluids related than structural. I also use a statistics book that I used as an elective.
My oldest had Thermo last semester and has Fluid Dynamics as his "good morning Monday!" class at 0800.
 

PeoplesElbow

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My oldest had Thermo last semester and has Fluid Dynamics as his "good morning Monday!" class at 0800.
Was my favorite class. My concentration for my masters was in the thermal sciences and fluid flow. Was fairly sure I'd have gotten a job in computational fluid dynamics, but went another direction in aerospace.
 

SamSpade

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I use 5-6 of my books quite often. I don't use the thermodynamics or heat transfer stuff, but I could have easily been hired in a position that was more thermal/fluids related than structural. I also use a statistics book that I used as an elective.
Nope. Actually a friend of mine posted on Facebook how he still uses his - to raise his monitor a few inches. I HAVE one or two. Not sure why except they were exceedingly expensive. But since I've been programming for thirty years, most of the material would never have helped me.
 

herb749

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Working summer jobs to pay for the fall and spring?

I did attend a few summer sessions, it was a good way to get a hard class out of the way, but many taught over the summer are not engineering classes.

I did a graduate degree, another reason for the summers off is that is when a lot of the research work that funds the departments is done. When I was a masters student the first year and a half i did my classes during fall and spring and research over the summer, and then my last three semesters when I had already finished with classes.


My oldest did that for his 1st couple of years. He volunteered for enough OT that his fall semester was paid for.
 

herb749

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Crazy coloreds!
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the NAACP stands with Black borrowers across the country in support of a baseline cancellation of no less than $50,000 in federal student loan debt; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the NAACP supports the complete forgiveness of all federal student loans for public service and frontline/essential workers; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the NAACP supports the end to all interest on student loan repayments; and

BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, that the members of the NAACP specifically call on the Biden Administration and Congress to immediately take action to ensure that borrowers are provided with student debt relief giving Black borrowers the opportunities to pursue homeownership, develop economy-boosting discretionary income, and equal opportunity towards upward mobility.



Call it what they really want, reparations.
 

herb749

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Now that he's pissed off more than half the country Biden will need to provide some kind of giveaway for the people who will get nothing.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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This program like all others will be riddled with fraud

^^This This This^^

Anything the government gets involved in is going to be a scam because the players are largely unaccountable. They get a blank check to spend OUR money, and if it doesn't work out as advertised.....oh well. Because it wasn't intended to work out - it was intended to fill some already deep pockets with nothing to show for it, and we don't raise hell.

How many BILLIONS have we funneled to Ukraine, and what specifically are they doing with that money? Also why are we giving them anything when we have people right here in the US who could use some help? Freaking homeless people and children living in poverty, and we're sending all that dough to ...Ukraine?? We can't afford this or that for American citizens, but we sure can hemorrhage money to illegal aliens and foreign countries.

It's bullshit.
 

Hijinx

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^^This This This^^

Anything the government gets involved in is going to be a scam because the players are largely unaccountable. They get a blank check to spend OUR money, and if it doesn't work out as advertised.....oh well. Because it wasn't intended to work out - it was intended to fill some already deep pockets with nothing to show for it, and we don't raise hell.

How many BILLIONS have we funneled to Ukraine, and what specifically are they doing with that money? Also why are we giving them anything when we have people right here in the US who could use some help? Freaking homeless people and children living in poverty, and we're sending all that dough to ...Ukraine?? We can't afford this or that for American citizens, but we sure can hemorrhage money to illegal aliens and foreign countries.

It's bullshit.
Sure we can afford it . the printing press at the mint isn't broken. We will just print some more money, like we always do. and i am not paying reparations to able bodied people who can work as well as I can, although the Government probably will one day, by just printing mo' money.
A Billion here a Bilion there -------pretty soon we will be talking about real money


I may be being facetious but in fact we are already living off borrowed money, and printing more every day.
 

Dakota

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Forgiving the student loan, any part of it, doesn't fix the real problem. When the government got involved in the student loan business, tuition became far more expensive.

We shall see how this will play out. Nasty Nancy said Joe couldn't forgive student loans without an act of congress. They want to use the "emergency" clause where covid is concerned now when the covid emergency is over. I guarantee, they will say after the mid-terms - well folks, sorry - no can do!
 

PeoplesElbow

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Nope. Actually a friend of mine posted on Facebook how he still uses his - to raise his monitor a few inches. I HAVE one or two. Not sure why except they were exceedingly expensive. But since I've been programming for thirty years, most of the material would never have helped me.
I still have my FORTRAN77 book, bookstore wouldn't give me anything for it. Also still have a C book I bought at Walden books about 1995, have used it a couple times, but not for work, same for the old Visual Basic books I've got.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
I still have my FORTRAN77 book, bookstore wouldn't give me anything for it. Also still have a C book I bought at Walden books about 1995, have used it a couple times, but not for work, same for the old Visual Basic books I've got.
The one book I know I still have was one that was used for at least TWO courses - Wave Guides and Antenna Design. Even today, I can't read most of it - and I had a helluva time with the course. I knew how to do the problems by repetition - but I really didn't understand them.

SOMEWHERE - I have the remnants of another "book" - a boxed collection of book-sized prints from my art history class. They just looked too nice to ditch.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
You know - there's a big part of me that isn't going to get too upset with the Biden proposal, although the skeptic in me says that no matter how much it's supposed to benefit me - it won't happen. There will be some obscure clause that will eliminate anything.

I've been cannibalizing chunks of my retirement funds, just so I won't be paying 5-6 hundred bucks a month for the rest of my short life. But it's been tough, and despite all the measures put in place - the goal of paying it off doesn't help when the lender KEEPS ADDING tons of interest on a loan that keeps needing refinancing. I swear after twenty years of paying into it - it never got any smaller. It was like making minimum payments on a 80k credit card.

What WILL help most, is the monthly cap - if it happens. I doubt it.

But I also think that this is an issue that is being spun up. 300 billion is a lot of money - but the government has been known to waste a helluva lot more on other things that usually pit political sides against one another. I can't recall the costs of all of the relief packages during the run of the pandemic, but I'd wager more of that was WASTED than this bill. So, yeah, I think my emotions are being whipped up over an issue that doesn't come close to the wasted funds the government does every other year,

What SHOULD be a problem is two things - this will immediately contribute to inflation, which is a "tax" on all of us. Probably not NEARLY as big a contributor as the Inflation Reduction Act which really should be called the Climate Change Act Which We HOPE Might Affect Inflation But We're Pretty Sure It Won't. And the other is - it really incentivizes colleges to just ratchet up their fees even more. Their costs are accountable to no one - there's no competitive force to drive DOWN their costs. IF THERE WAS - you'd see them change. Think of it - WHAT COMPETITION do colleges collectively have that would compel them to lower costs? There really aren't any.

The root problem is just that - colleges cost way too much. I just read a piece in The Atlantic which made this point - LONG GONE are the days when a student can just work their way through college working part-time - or even full-time. The costs have so far outstripped inflation that it's become impossible, and I shudder at the argument of "well *I* did it, so should they" from someone who's my age. Well I did it too. That was when my first semester at U of MD ran a grand total of 450 dollars in 1980.

The left has a MUCH WORSE SOLUTION which has proven disastrous in England - free college. The way to provide THAT realistically would be strict entrance exams which the left would HATE.

The free market has to address this - we have to make colleges compete with SOMETHING that threatens to eliminate them.
 
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