Biden's handlers scrap big payout to illegal aliens

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Biden administration scraps $450,000 payments to migrant families separated under Trump - Washington Examiner

The Biden administration has walked away from legal negotiations in which it was considering paying $450,000 to each adult and child separated at the southern border during the Trump administration, according to a spokesman for the plaintiffs.The U.S. government "has ended negotiations over a...
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Someone must have informed them that if they went through with this we'd put their ****ing heads on a pike.
 
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HemiHauler

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Of course, those of us who actually pay attention to what is going on in the world understand you’re just being dogwhistled, what calling these “payouts”. I’ve even seen some of the pablum “media” you people consume call these “reparations” - MAXIMUM DOGWHISTLE PLAY. LOL.

This is a negotiation to SETTLE and end existing tort cases from proceeding to trial. Which of course will quite likely be more expensive than a settlement - that is the entire point of a settlement out of court. Of course, the federal government will LOSE the cases (why do you think government lawyers were negotiating for a settlement) and even larger amounts of money will be involved.

And you’ll have no one’s head on any pike 🤣🤣🤣
 
Hijinx

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vraiblonde said:
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Biden administration scraps $450,000 payments to migrant families separated under Trump - Washington Examiner

The Biden administration has walked away from legal negotiations in which it was considering paying $450,000 to each adult and child separated at the southern border during the Trump administration, according to a spokesman for the plaintiffs.The U.S. government "has ended negotiations over a...
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Someone must have informed them that if they went through with this we'd put their ****ing heads on a pike.
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Where they belong.
 
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HemiHauler

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Monello said:
The fact that someone in the US government thought this was a good idea should worry a lot of people.
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You don’t think it’s a good idea to try and settle a legal case you have no chance of winning?

Let me guess: you’re not a lawyer.
 
black dog

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HemiHauler said:
Ya think one has to be a lawyer to understand why the defendant in a tort case often tries to negotiate a settlement before the case goes to trial?
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If you think thats why these HUGE PAYOUTS were considered...
Your dumber than I thought.....
After living with a few attorneys in my life, some trades like being an attorney or an engineer come with having a certian mindset. Me i'm a dumbass welder that understands the homogenizing of molten metals along with the things that a framing square can really do.
And I know that Weems & Plath make navigation tools not engineering tools...

I don't know or care what you are, but I know for sure that neither one of us, especially you has a
Juris Doctorate.....
 
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HemiHauler

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black dog said:
If you think thats why these HUGE PAYOUTS were considered...
Your dumber than I thought.....
After living with a few attorneys in my life, some trades like being an attorney or an engineer come with having a certian mindset. Me i'm a dumbass welder that understands the homogenizing of molten metals along with the things that a framing square can really do.
And I know that Weems & Plath make navigation tools not engineering tools...

I don't know or care what you are, but I know for sure that neither one of us, especially you has a
Juris Doctorate.....
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Ya think one has to be a lawyer to understand why the defendant in a tort case often tries to negotiate a settlement before the case goes to trial?
 
black dog

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HemiHauler said:
Ya think one has to be a lawyer to understand why the defendant in a tort case often tries to negotiate a settlement before the case goes to trial?
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SamSpade

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Why would huge payouts EVER BE LIKELY in these cases? As was pointed out, death benefits for veterans to their families was less money.
Why was it determined that what happened to these families was so egregious they'd receive more money than many Americans are likely to have in a lifetime - especially when American CITIZENS never get such boons, and American CITIZENS will be paying for it?

I did sit in on a couple juries, one of them a civil case. When it came to punitive damages, as a jury we generally said "eff that, this didn't need to come to trial". We awarded damages commensurate with wages lost, medical bills and other delineated costs. The whole deal of getting huge payments for pain and suffering was just lawyers frothing at the mouth and their greed kept us on a civil case for two days.
 
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herb749

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SamSpade said:
Why would huge payouts EVER BE LIKELY in these cases? As was pointed out, death benefits for veterans to their families was less money.
Why was it determined that what happened to these families was so egregious they'd receive more money than many Americans are likely to have in a lifetime - especially when American CITIZENS never get such boons, and American CITIZENS will be paying for it?

I did sit in on a couple juries, one of them a civil case. When it came to punitive damages, as a jury we generally said "eff that, this didn't need to come to trial". We awarded damages commensurate with wages lost, medical bills and other delineated costs. The whole deal of getting huge payments for pain and suffering was just lawyers frothing at the mouth and their greed kept us on a civil case for two days.
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My wife also sat in on a civil case that went 2 days instead of a quick one. Most didn't want to give the plaintiff anything. Then they settled for $10,000. It was held up because 1 juror wanted to give out $400,000.
 
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Ditto ... I sat on a civil case someone Indian Cab Driver was suing this Black Man over an accident claiming lost wages, having to get a new cab outfit cab with equipment, the ubiquitous ' pain and suffering ' ...

I had problems with some of the claims out of the gate

the ' records ' submitted for lost wages were so clean and fresh - if you have every worked as a courier with a clip board and paperwork that crap doesn't stay neat .... the papers looked like someone sat down at a kitchen table and wrote them out

The plaintiff quit his Pyhsical Therapy hald way through his assigned sessions then after a time [ months I think ] started them up again .. he must have been suffering so badly ... :sarcasm:

The submitted paperwork for towing the wreck was also questionable ..... a neatly filled out xerox copy of a towing company form

In the end we awarded the plaintiff a few bucks for loss of the 1st vehicle and nothing else ...

I laughed my ass off at the plaintiffs lawyer shaking his head beside himself we had denied so much of his case


and speaking of juries we had to contend with this juror who wanted to fuk over this poor black man, because her friend has lost out in a couirt case somewhere else in some act of redemption ... it took some convincing that this case had NOTHING to do with her friend losing out
 
SamSpade

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herb749 said:
My wife also sat in on a civil case that went 2 days instead of a quick one. Most didn't want to give the plaintiff anything. Then they settled for $10,000. It was held up because 1 juror wanted to give out $400,000.
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In fairness, we really felt the culpability and the depth of obligation was EASILY seen from the start - hence, reasonable people would have worked it out without lawyers or juries. Both parties were being a-holes, the plaintiff wanted too much money and the defendant didn't want to pay a dime even though the course of the trial made it clear, they did think it was on them.

So we reacted - a pox on both of you. Plaintiff you don't get to be a greedhead, defendant, you don't walk scot-free. You dragged our butts in here for two days, not counting voir dire so we could resolve a stupid ass case easily resolved by normal people.

I do get why payouts often happen with corporations - without punitive damages, there's like zero incentive to avoid repeating the offense, since paying money for things like lost wages and medical are chump change to them. I sometimes see it as valuable in civil cases, but some things are just not likely to be repeated, which I presume is the REASON - mostly - for punitive damages. A rich person who has a history needs them; a typical working class person is not likely to repeat the offense.

But a government? Punitive damages are meaningless. They NEVER pay a social cost. It's not their money. The only reason for soaking a government is to get the money.

And it is obscene that people in this case would ever be awarded that kind of money, when normal Americans experience much worse and never see such a boon.
 
PeoplesElbow

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Why was it so high? That made no sense at all. I'm not for giving them anything but why not 5k, 10k, 20k, that sounds more in line, but almost half a million dollars?
 
vraiblonde

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What if......the Biden administration realized that most of the people bringing children across the border were human traffickers? And what if Biden's wealthy powerful friends didn't want that information to come out? Because the adults those children were separated from were not their parents, but delivery men for the Hollywood pedo industry, who are immense Democrat donors?

It's the height of brainwashed naivete to think a jury would award any monetary amount to a child sex smuggler. And it's even more naive to think that the adults bringing these kids over are their parents. AND it's breathtakingly racist to believe that Hispanics are so third world savage that they'd willingly give their child over to a shady stranger to take to a foreign country and trust them to deposit the child with relatives.

Next time you see news footage of the illegal invader caravans, take note of the makeup of the group. How many women and children do you see?
 
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