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clevalley

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Different county. I think whatever law it is, is county law. I could be wrong.
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It's definitely a state issue... I was talking with Peter Murphy about a month ago and the state house was a buzz with what they were going to do. I will leave it at that...

For me - I say let's have them, if the establishment wants to pay for them and run them independently - great! If the state wants to buy a bunch, dole them out and regulate it, great!
 
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clevalley said:
It's definitely a state issue... I was talking with Peter Murphy about a month ago and the state house was a buzz with what they were going to do. I will leave it at that...

For me - I say let's have them, if the establishment wants to pay for them and run them independently - great! If the state wants to buy a bunch, dole them out and regulate it, great!
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I agree - I don't see what the big deal is. If they're not playing slots then they're playing keno - what's the diff.
 
kwillia

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I agree - I don't see what the big deal is. If they're not playing slots then they're playing keno - what's the diff.
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It's my understanding that IS the problem... the state of MD saw a huge decrease in money made from Keno once St. Mary's establishments started offering slots. Though some local charities were making more money than ever before... the hit to MD Keno profits was large enough to make them take a looksee... and the rest is history.
 
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kwillia said:
It's my understanding that IS the problem... the state of MD saw a huge decrease in money made from Keno once St. Mary's establishments started offering slots. Though some local charities were making more money than ever before... the hit to MD Keno profits was large enough to make them take a looksee... and the rest is history.
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Well, well......then perhaps if keno payed out a little better that would have solved the problem. How does that work anyway? Can they change the odds?

So gready, what bullies!:whistle:
 
huntr1

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Can someone please explain to me why Rod 'n Reel gets to keep their slots...:confused:
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It has to do with the internal workings of the machines. If the tickets are preprinted vs. printed randomly by the machine, they are allowed to stay. Rod n Reel machines have preprinted tickets. The newer machines had an internal computer that printed the tickets randomly.
 
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huntr1 said:
It has to do with the internal workings of the machines. If the tickets are preprinted vs. printed randomly by the machine, they are allowed to stay. Rod n Reel machines have preprinted tickets. The newer machines had an internal computer that printed the tickets randomly.
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Please explain the difference. Does that mean it is not an actual 'slot' machine for some reason? Reguardless isn't it a random win, so how can the tickets be preprinted?

I'm too confused, that's it, I don't want to play anymore.
 
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"" NEW MARKET, Md. -- Authorities raided a Bingo parlor in St. Mary's County on Thursday.

The St. Mary's County Sherrif's Office and Maryland State Police seized slot machines they said were in operation at the ADF Bingo Hall in New Market.

Slots have not yet been legalized in many parts of Maryland. About a month ago the county ordered the hall to turn the machines off.

Stay with News4 and NBC4.com for more on this story as it develops. ""

Ok - so they were told to turn them off and obviously they didn't.
Now they're being picked up. It must be a slow day at the news office.
 
tirdun

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Please explain the difference.
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There's probably a mile of paper as to why there's a difference in Annapolis, but the short of it is: There isn't any.

As I understand it:

The preprinted ones guarantee the charity exactly X dollars, since the machine HAS to give out the winning tickets from the stack sooner or later. The store makes some cut for hosting them and the charity gets their part.

The randomly printed ones STILL pay out X dollars, at least in the long term. Mathematically they will eventually pay out roughly the same amount, but there'll always be some chance of two jackpots instead of one in the same amount of tickets. That, plus no skill to operate or play = slot machine.

Does that mean it is not an actual 'slot' machine for some reason?
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For you, walking up to the machine with $10 in quarters, either one is a slot machine. In the same way Bingo is just a slot machine, Keno is a slot machine, scratch tix are slot machines, etc.
Reguardless isn't it a random win, so how can the tickets be preprinted?
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Print 3000 tickets. Write "YOU WON $5" on 100 and "YOU WON $1000" on one. Fold them and stick in a hat. Charge $1 to reach in and take a ticket. You've just built a pre-printed machine. In the end you'll make $1500, but you have to give part of it to charity.
I'm too confused, that's it, I don't want to play anymore.
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Probably a good idea, it's not a game designed to let you win.
 
Jbeckman

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Last I read Miller/et al (legislative) let Rod and Reel machines stay in place. If their machines are "approved" why don't the others (St. Mary's County) just put in these same types of machines?
I think this does have much to do (Rod and Reel) with who is getting support ($) and (if I remember correctly) this is Miller's district.
Again, everyone get the same machines as those they allow in Rod and Reel and keep 'em rolling. If this is approved, they I would dang sure make an issue of Rod and Reel keeping their machines. None of this Grandfathered crap either...otherwise grandfather others.
 
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tirdun said:
There's probably a mile of paper as to why there's a difference in Annapolis, but the short of it is: There isn't any.

As I understand it:

The preprinted ones guarantee the charity exactly X dollars, since the machine HAS to give out the winning tickets from the stack sooner or later. The store makes some cut for hosting them and the charity gets their part.

The randomly printed ones STILL pay out X dollars, at least in the long term. Mathematically they will eventually pay out roughly the same amount, but there'll always be some chance of two jackpots instead of one in the same amount of tickets. That, plus no skill to operate or play = slot machine.


For you, walking up to the machine with $10 in quarters, either one is a slot machine. In the same way Bingo is just a slot machine, Keno is a slot machine, scratch tix are slot machines, etc.

Print 3000 tickets. Write "YOU WON $5" on 100 and "YOU WON $1000" on one. Fold them and stick in a hat. Charge $1 to reach in and take a ticket. You've just built a pre-printed machine. In the end you'll make $1500, but you have to give part of it to charity.

Probably a good idea, it's not a game designed to let you win.
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Thank you , I think I now understand. :howdy:
 
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kwillia said:
It's my understanding that IS the problem... the state of MD saw a huge decrease in money made from Keno once St. Mary's establishments started offering slots. Though some local charities were making more money than ever before... the hit to MD Keno profits was large enough to make them take a looksee... and the rest is history.
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I was wondering if the state realizes that when they put the smoking ban for bars in effect that that might have been what caused the keno to decrease. I bartend at a local restrauant and there has been a significant drop in customers since then because most of them that came in drank and played keno. Now they don't want to have to go outside to smoke so they just don't come in as often or stay as long.
 
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Rod and Reel's have to go eventually too, they just have a longer time period to get rid of them for some reason.
 
clevalley

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tirdun said:
There's probably a mile of paper as to why there's a difference in Annapolis, but the short of it is: There isn't any.

As I understand it:

The preprinted ones guarantee the charity exactly X dollars, since the machine HAS to give out the winning tickets from the stack sooner or later. The store makes some cut for hosting them and the charity gets their part.

The randomly printed ones STILL pay out X dollars, at least in the long term. Mathematically they will eventually pay out roughly the same amount, but there'll always be some chance of two jackpots instead of one in the same amount of tickets. That, plus no skill to operate or play = slot machine.


For you, walking up to the machine with $10 in quarters, either one is a slot machine. In the same way Bingo is just a slot machine, Keno is a slot machine, scratch tix are slot machines, etc.

Print 3000 tickets. Write "YOU WON $5" on 100 and "YOU WON $1000" on one. Fold them and stick in a hat. Charge $1 to reach in and take a ticket. You've just built a pre-printed machine. In the end you'll make $1500, but you have to give part of it to charity.

Probably a good idea, it's not a game designed to let you win.
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Now that makes sense - thanx!
 
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