boo to religion

[BuddyLee]

im here

i didnt throw a bomb and run. im right here on fire with the rest of you. i just dont stay on here 24/7 sorry. lol. i think religion is a mental disease. your parents force it upon you as a child and you are brain washed as a child just as society brain washes us to believe that skinny models are sexy. lol. religion is the cause of all evil and i hold my beliefs. look in any history book and youll see!

 

[Penn]

Re: im here

Originally posted by BuddyLee
i didnt throw a bomb and run. im right here on fire with the rest of you.

religion is the cause of all evil and i hold my beliefs. look in any history book and youll see!

Is this indicative of how you look at life as a whole?
(I mean the symbol)

And, who said we're all on fire like you?

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by Toxick
Come on CUT ME SOME SLACK!

Having a bad day today? "Going off" doesn't necessarily mean losing your mind. Merely that you had a retort.

 

[vraiblonde]

Hello again, Buddy. Do you feel that religion itself is a "mental disease" or that there are some religious people that have a mental disease?

Do you think, for instance, that Mother Theresa had a mental disease? Or just that people like Oral Roberts have a mental disease? Because, as I'm sure you realize, there are two very different motivations, although they worshipped the same God.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by BuddyLee
religion is the cause of all evil and i hold my beliefs. look in any history book and youll see!

Do you then feel that the person who kidnaps and murders a child (which is certainly evil) is motivated by religion? How about that guy that killed his pregnant wife? Was he motivated by religion as well?

 

[BuddyLee]

mental disease

i think religion is good however people seem to take religion and make it STUPID!! especially religous extremists, and im not just talking about islam lol. its good to believe in something it gives people hope. lol. but then again how do you know if its real or not??? can anyone prove anything. im sure the next message that will be posted will have some preacher telling me that hes seen god or something. the point is NO ONE KNOWS JACK lol.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by BuddyLee
i think religion is good however people seem to take religion and make it STUPID!!

I see. So what you meant to say is not that religion is evil, but that some people are evil? And those evil people might try to manipulate other s by using religion?

That I'll agree with.

but then again how do you know if its real or not??? can anyone prove anything.

What does it matter? As long as the person who believes isn't hurting others in the name of their religion, what difference does it make?

 

[Kain99]

Originally posted by BuddyLee
boo to religion it is the cause of all evil!!

So you meant to say that God is evil or not real...... That's totally different than an aversion to organized religion. Can't help ya here buddy!

 

[BuddyLee]

killers

some people may be motivated by religion to do something like that. but whos to say that thats the wrong thing to do. SOCIETY tells us that its the wrong thing to do. and thats why we as a whole do not think of killing people a good thing. lol. whos to say that most serial killers are smarter individuals than the rest of us and that we are doing the wrong thing. i like to think about this every so often. if your going into that depth of evil of one individual than you will have to look at every single individual separately and do a psychological evaluation. im not saying that its the cause of that kind of evil but in some cases it is. im saying that in the big factors of evil such as WAR and so on.

 

[Kain99]

Re: killers

Originally posted by BuddyLee
whos to say that most serial killers are smarter individuals than the rest of us and that we are doing the wrong thing. i like to think about this every so often.

That's not scarey as cat shiat!

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by BuddyLee
some people may be motivated by religion to do something like that. but whos to say that thats the wrong thing to do. SOCIETY tells us that its the wrong thing to do. and thats why we as a whole do not think of killing people a good thing.

We, as a whole, don't think killing people is a good thing because it's taking someone else's life. That sounds simplistic but it is that simple. Who has the right to take your life? If someone murdered you or someone you cared about, would you think that was a good thing?

These kinds of arguments are strange to me. In fact, they're not really "arguments" at all - just silly self-indulgent cocktail "philosophy" that has no basis in reality. There's no one in the world, outside of college professors playing with young minds, that can make the case that murdering an innocent is a good thing and is only bad because society says it's bad.

im saying that in the big factors of evil such as WAR and so on.

Not all wars are based on religion. Some are based on defending those who can't defend themselves.

 

[Penn]

Re: killers

Originally posted by BuddyLee
some people may be motivated by religion to do something like that.

but whos to say that thats the wrong thing to do. SOCIETY tells us that its the wrong thing to do.

and thats why we as a whole do not think of killing people a good thing. lol.

BuddyLee, when is the last time you took a look at the Ten Commandments?

In there you will find a quote "Thou shalt not kill", among others.

That is not society speaking. That is God speaking.

That is why many, many people believe the Ten Commandments were the original rules which were set for man to live by.

If your premise is that society can and does distort the Word of God, than you have a point.

 

[Tonio]

Re: im here

Originally posted by BuddyLee
i think religion is a mental disease. your parents force it upon you as a child and you are brain washed as a child just as society brain washes us to believe that skinny models are sexy.

Buddy, why are you singling out religion? Well-meaning parents often force all sorts of strange beliefs on their children, everything from prejudice to aquaphobia. Any belief system can be perverted for evil purposes. That doesn't necessarily mean the belief system itself is evil.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by penncam
That is not society speaking. That is God speaking.

Well, wait a minute, Penn. I don't believe in God. Does that mean I'm free to murder people as I see fit?

Some things don't need to have a basis in religion - some things simply are. It's wrong to murder someone not because God says so or society says so, but because it's the taking of a life that didn't belong to you and causing harm to someone who didn't deserve it.

This is not to be confused with the death penalty, which is merely removing our mad dogs from society so they can't harm others. Two different scenarios.

 

[Kain99]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
Some things don't need to have a basis in religion - some things simply are. It's wrong to murder someone not because God says so or society says so, but because it's the taking of a life that didn't belong to you and causing harm to someone who didn't deserve it.

Yeah but.... If God never said Killing was wrong and society didn't care, what would we do? Would we still think it was wrong? I doubt it. People are fricking animals.

 

[Larry Gude]

bl...

...I have a question:

What do you believe in?

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by Kain99
Yeah but.... If God never said Killing was wrong and society didn't care, what would we do? Would we still think it was wrong?

God never said killing was wrong until he handed down the Ten Commandments. In fact, God killed all kinds of people in the OT without separating the innocent from the guilty.

Think about outlaws in the old west. They didn't think killing people was such a bad idea. Yet when one of theirs was killed, they got angry and wanted revenge. So even they only thought killing was okay when it happened to someone else.

Society as a whole always has and always will consider murder a bad thing. No one wants to lose their own life or a loved one.

 

[Kain99]

Was that an answer to my question? Maybe I'm just missing the point.

You mentioned the wild west.... well... didn't they live in a society? Not sure where you are going with this but I personally could have killed that darn Bus driver this afternoon! I wonder why I didn't. Was it God or society? I don't know but I can promise you it had nothing to do with thinking it was wrong.

 

[Christy]

Re: bl...

Originally posted by Larry Gude
...I have a question:

What do you believe in?

I'm curious as well.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by Kain99
I don't know but I can promise you it had nothing to do with thinking it was wrong.

No? Then why didn't you