Bush decries border project

ylexot

Super Genius
President Bush yesterday said he opposes a civilian project to monitor illegal aliens crossing the border, characterizing them as "vigilantes."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050324-122200-6209r.htm

:burning: If I was one of the "vigilantes", my response to him would be "If you did your job and enforced the immigration laws, we wouldn't have to." I think this marks the first time I have actually been mad at Bush. Interseting that the root word of "vigilante" is "vigilant"...an appropriate name for these folks and one I'd be proud of.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
ylexot said:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050324-122200-6209r.htm

:burning: If I was one of the "vigilantes", my response to him would be "If you did your job and enforced the immigration laws, we wouldn't have to." I think this marks the first time I have actually been mad at Bush. Interseting that the root word of "vigilante" is "vigilant"...an appropriate name for these folks and one I'd be proud of.
Why don't you express your anger to him? president@whitehouse.gov

Just a copy and paste and a little edit.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
Just sent this:
President Bush,
I voted for you, but I think you are the wrong person for the leadership of this country. You are out of touch with the majority.

You called civilians monitoring illegal aliens crossing the border "vigilantes." Interesting that the root word of vigilantes is vigilant. Someone needs to be vigilant of our borders since the government is not. We are tired of the invasion of our country and want it repelled. You want the Congress to further loosen immigration law. Wrong! That is not what the people want! We want the laws tightened and illegals deported now.

Good thing you can't run for a third term. You'd have lost my vote and many others.

Sincerely,
name address stuff
 

ylexot

Super Genius
2ndAmendment said:
Why don't you express your anger to him? president@whitehouse.gov

Just a copy and paste and a little edit.
I decided to do a complete re-write:
Mr. President,
I have agreed with many of your policies throughout your Presdiency. However, I do not agree with your stance on illegal immigration. The key word is "illegal". Illegal immigration costs the citizens of this country Billions of dollars each year. Your idea for a immigrant worker program may work, it may not. But it does not matter because it is not the current law of this country...the laws you are sworn to uphold...the laws your branch of government is charged with enforcing. These laws are not being enforced and you are failing to do your duty in this regard as President of the United States of America. The enforcement of our immigration laws is so lax that private citizens are now patrolling the border and you have the gall to call them "vigilantes"...for doing the job you are supposed to be doing. You should not look down on these people. Vigilatism is not the problem. It is meerly a sign that the laws are not being upheld.

I hope you will see that these laws need to be enforced. It is your sworn duty.

Sincerely,
Name and location
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
And, PS, Mr. President, you're overstepping your boundaries and creating a dangerous precedent by getting involved in the Terri Schiavo situation.


What the hell has gotten into him????? Wanting to let illegals come waltzing into our country unfettered is supposed to be what Democrats do, not Republicans. I'm trying to figure out his angle on this illegal immigration thing and it's just not coming to me.
 

AC/DC

Lord, I apologize.
Dear Mr. President,

Though I have agreed with you many actions as president, I would like to highly suggest that instead of posting civilian lookouts on the border that you would consider leaving water bottles lying all along the border laced with Arsenic. This would lower the number of break-ins of homes looking for water and food, not to mention the fact that the immigrants would be in a better place all together.

Rock on……AC/DC
 

soul4sale

New Member
vraiblonde said:
What the hell has gotten into him????? Wanting to let illegals come waltzing into our country unfettered is supposed to be what Democrats do, not Republicans. I'm trying to figure out his angle on this illegal immigration thing and it's just not coming to me.

According to the infinite wisdom of BellaOnline (which I've never heard of), it looks like he's getting back to the party basics:

"Issues that further united the party were: (1) Repeal of the Kansas-Nebraska Act; (2) Support of a central route for the transcontinental railroad; (3) Support of the Homestead Act, and (4) Support of high protective tariffs and liberal immigration laws."
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
He tells us to be vigilant in watching for terrorist activities, but when it come to stopping people from illegaly crossing the boarder we're wrong?? He needs to make up his mind.
 

alex

Member
vraiblonde said:
And, PS, Mr. President, you're overstepping your boundaries and creating a dangerous precedent by getting involved in the Terri Schiavo situation.


What the hell has gotten into him????? Wanting to let illegals come waltzing into our country unfettered is supposed to be what Democrats do, not Republicans. I'm trying to figure out his angle on this illegal immigration thing and it's just not coming to me.
The can think of two reasons he is doing this....

1 - VOTES - keep the latin vote in the GOP party.
2 - BUSINESS - cheap labor = big profits.
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
It's interesting that this obvious change in direction happened after the Mexican President paid a visit to Mr. Bush. I wonder what was discussed behind closed doors? What does he know about this that we don't?
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Railroad said:
It's interesting that this obvious change in direction happened after the Mexican President paid a visit to Mr. Bush. I wonder what was discussed behind closed doors? What does he know about this that we don't?
Mexican oil and gas production.
 

blacklabman

Well-Known Member
Maybe if we shot a few of these illegals it may have an effect....but I doubt it. Who knows, we may also get a couple of "little sheet heads" in the process.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
Railroad said:
It's interesting that this obvious change in direction happened after the Mexican President paid a visit to Mr. Bush. I wonder what was discussed behind closed doors? What does he know about this that we don't?
Change in direction? AFAIK, this has always been his direction. He was pushing for the guest worker program before the election.
 

Railroad

Routinely Derailed
Ken King said:
Mexican oil and gas production.
As good a reason as any, I suppose.

As far as my earlier "change in direction" remark is concerned, I've heard the President listing getting illegal immigration under control as one of his priorities many times (no I don't have the times or dates in my hip pocket). I had forgotten about his support for the guest worker program, though.

No sarcasm intended! --> I wonder, now, if he is opposed to the vigilante program because he doesn't want a bunch of ordinary citizens using their own judgement in deciding when and where to shoot people coming across the border. Could it be that he'd prefer our Homeland Security folks get their act together with regard to the Mexican and Canadian borders?
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
Here comes the red karma, but what the he!!

Railroad said:
.. .doesn't want a bunch of ordinary citizens using their own judgement in deciding when and where to shoot people coming across the border.

All we need for the liberals to be reinvigorated is to have a bunch of rednecks gunning down a bunch of wetbacks and posing for pictures next to their field-dressed carcasses hanging from mesquite trees on the border.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
ylexot said:
Interseting that the root word of "vigilante" is "vigilant"...an appropriate name for these folks and one I'd be proud of.
I definitely agree about Bush being criminally negligent about enforcing our immigration laws. (I've said before that INS should go after the employers as well as the illegals.) But I don't agree that it justifies the vigilantes taking the law into their own hands.

I have a possible solution--INS could formally deputize the vigilantes, with a screening process to weed out any of them who have criminal records.
 

Toxick

Splat
This clinches it

I'm signing up.


I'm sure there's an enrollment place in Tucson. Just need to find it...
 

ylexot

Super Genius
According to the first article I saw about the Minutemen, they are not taking the law into their hands nor are they "gunning down wetbacks". They are just patrolling and reporting illegal border crossers to the Border Patrol (the proper, yet short-handed authority). They even have several private pilots and will be partolling from the air as well...not quite deserving of anyone's ire.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Stupid question--would anyone object to a 50-foot wall along the entire border, with military patrols along it?
 
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