Bush "Envious" Of Soldiers Serving in Afghanistan
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Does it really matter how? How many American soldiers were killed for their sneakers?
forestal
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I guess you haven't read a damn thing since 2003...
Salman Pak facility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Salman Pak facility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The facility was discussed in the leadup to the 2003 invasion of Iraq as a result of a campaign by Iraqi defectors associated with the Iraqi National Congress to assert that the facility was a terrorist training camp. The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has since established that both the CIA and the DIA concluded that there was no evidence to support these claims. A DIA analyst told the Committee, "The Iraqi National Congress (INC) has been pushing information for a long time about Salman Pak and training of al-Qa'ida." Knight Ridder reporters Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel noted in November 2005 that "After the war, U.S. officials determined that a facility in Salman Pak was used to train Iraqi anti-terrorist commandos."[Seattle Times, 1 November 2005, p. A5]. And PBS Frontline - who originally carried many of the allegations of Iraqi defectors - similarly noted that "U.S. officials have now concluded that Salman Pak was most likely used to train Iraqi counter-terrorism units in anti-hijacking techniques."[3]
Credibility of defectors
Inconsistencies in the stories of the defectors led some U.S. officials, journalists, and investigators to conclude that the Salman Pak story was inaccurate. One senior U.S. official said that they had found "nothing to substantiate" the claim that al-Qaeda trained at Salman Pak.[10][11] The credibility of the defectors has been questioned due to their association with the Iraqi National Congress, an organization that has been accused of deliberately supplying false information to the US government in order to build support for an invasion of Iraq.[12] "The INC’s agenda was to get us into a war", said Helen Kennedy of the New York Daily News.[13]
The DIA told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in 2006 that after Operation Desert Storm, "fabricators and unestablished sources who reported hearsay or thirdhand information created a large volume of human intelligence reporting. This type of reporting surged after September 2001 and continued well after the capture of Salman Pak." Yet the DIA's postwar exploitation of the facility found "no information from Salman Pak that links al-Qa'ida with the former regime." (p. 84)
[edit] Inconsistencies in the stories of the defectors led some U.S. officials, journalists, and investigators to conclude that the Salman Pak story was inaccurate. One senior U.S. official said that they had found "nothing to substantiate" the claim that al-Qaeda trained at Salman Pak.[10][11] The credibility of the defectors has been questioned due to their association with the Iraqi National Congress, an organization that has been accused of deliberately supplying false information to the US government in order to build support for an invasion of Iraq.[12] "The INC’s agenda was to get us into a war", said Helen Kennedy of the New York Daily News.[13]
The DIA told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in 2006 that after Operation Desert Storm, "fabricators and unestablished sources who reported hearsay or thirdhand information created a large volume of human intelligence reporting. This type of reporting surged after September 2001 and continued well after the capture of Salman Pak." Yet the DIA's postwar exploitation of the facility found "no information from Salman Pak that links al-Qa'ida with the former regime." (p. 84)
forestal
I'm the Boss of Me
More Neo-Conservative Mythology???
It's lies like these, and yours, that are responsible for the deaths of almost 4000 (3988 current count) American servicemen and women in Iraq.
Congratulations on wasting the sacrifices of American soldiers.
Salman Pak facility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It's lies like these, and yours, that are responsible for the deaths of almost 4000 (3988 current count) American servicemen and women in Iraq.
Congratulations on wasting the sacrifices of American soldiers.
Salman Pak facility - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Knight Ridder reporters Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel noted in November 2005 that "After the war, U.S. officials determined that a facility in Salman Pak was used to train Iraqi anti-terrorist commandos."[Seattle Times, 1 November 2005, p. A5]. And PBS Frontline - who originally carried many of the allegations of Iraqi defectors - similarly noted that "U.S. officials have now concluded that Salman Pak was most likely used to train Iraqi counter-terrorism units in anti-hijacking techniques."[3]
Credibility of defectors
Inconsistencies in the stories of the defectors led some U.S. officials, journalists, and investigators to conclude that the Salman Pak story was inaccurate. One senior U.S. official said that they had found "nothing to substantiate" the claim that al-Qaeda trained at Salman Pak.[10][11] The credibility of the defectors has been questioned due to their association with the Iraqi National Congress, an organization that has been accused of deliberately supplying false information to the US government in order to build support for an invasion of Iraq.[12] "The INC’s agenda was to get us into a war", said Helen Kennedy of the New York Daily News.[13]
The DIA told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in 2006 that after Operation Desert Storm, "fabricators and unestablished sources who reported hearsay or thirdhand information created a large volume of human intelligence reporting. This type of reporting surged after September 2001 and continued well after the capture of Salman Pak." Yet the DIA's postwar exploitation of the facility found "no information from Salman Pak that links al-Qa'ida with the former regime." (p. 84)
Credibility of defectors
Inconsistencies in the stories of the defectors led some U.S. officials, journalists, and investigators to conclude that the Salman Pak story was inaccurate. One senior U.S. official said that they had found "nothing to substantiate" the claim that al-Qaeda trained at Salman Pak.[10][11] The credibility of the defectors has been questioned due to their association with the Iraqi National Congress, an organization that has been accused of deliberately supplying false information to the US government in order to build support for an invasion of Iraq.[12] "The INC’s agenda was to get us into a war", said Helen Kennedy of the New York Daily News.[13]
The DIA told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in 2006 that after Operation Desert Storm, "fabricators and unestablished sources who reported hearsay or thirdhand information created a large volume of human intelligence reporting. This type of reporting surged after September 2001 and continued well after the capture of Salman Pak." Yet the DIA's postwar exploitation of the facility found "no information from Salman Pak that links al-Qa'ida with the former regime." (p. 84)
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
You are such an EASY target!!
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1. PBS = so liberal slanted, they're almost falling over...
2. Wikipedia, I think I'll go rewrite this article with MY spin....
3. Here's a few signs for ya stool....
Attachments
Oh, bite me.
My source was Global Security.org. Yours is Wikipedia and PBS?!
Guess you've never heard of Laurie Mylroie.
Oh, what the heck - I'll be nice - here's a link to her website for ya'll to broaden your horizons a little bit.
Laurie Mylroie Homepage
"Laurie Mylroie earned her doctorate in Government from Harvard University, with a specialization in the Middle East. She also studied Arabic in Egypt, at the American University in Cairo, and has traveled extensively in the Middle East.
Dr. Mylroie taught in the Department of Government at Harvard as an Assistant Professor, and later became an Associate Professor in the Strategy Department of the U.S. Naval War College. She served as the advisor on Iraq to the 1992 Clinton Presidential campaign and personally briefed the candidate on that issue. She was also a Research Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Her subscription internet list service, “Iraq News,” has provided comprehensive news coverage about Iraq since 1997. Mylroie's articles have appeared in The American Spectator, Atlantic Monthly, Commentary, Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, New York Sun, New York Times, Newsweek, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and other journals. She has been called to testify before several Congressional committees, including the 9-11
Commission "
Articles by Laurie Mylroie Laurie Mylroie Articles
YVW.
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
I know you're not razzin on Wiki!!!Oh, bite me.
My source was Global Security.org. Yours is Wikipedia and PBS?!
Guess you've never heard of Laurie Mylroie.
Oh, what the heck - I'll be nice - here's a link to her website for ya'll to broaden your horizons a little bit.
Laurie Mylroie Homepage
"Laurie Mylroie earned her doctorate in Government from Harvard University, with a specialization in the Middle East. She also studied Arabic in Egypt, at the American University in Cairo, and has traveled extensively in the Middle East.
Dr. Mylroie taught in the Department of Government at Harvard as an Assistant Professor, and later became an Associate Professor in the Strategy Department of the U.S. Naval War College. She served as the advisor on Iraq to the 1992 Clinton Presidential campaign and personally briefed the candidate on that issue. She was also a Research Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Her subscription internet list service, “Iraq News,” has provided comprehensive news coverage about Iraq since 1997. Mylroie's articles have appeared in The American Spectator, Atlantic Monthly, Commentary, Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, New York Sun, New York Times, Newsweek, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and other journals. She has been called to testify before several Congressional committees, including the 9-11
Commission "
Articles by Laurie Mylroie Laurie Mylroie Articles
YVW.
Those are cold, hard facts written by whomever wants to make them up.
I know you're not razzin on Wiki!!!
Those are cold, hard facts written by whomever wants to make them up.
NO! I'm just, shocked, I tell ya!
Lenny
Lovin' being Texican
It is so obvious you have always been weak in reading retention. I suspect this explains your forked up attitude toward authority. You mother either ignored your handicap or your mother didn't insist the authorities get you to the short bus.
Your response explains what your response was to that situation.
nhboy
Ubi bene ibi patria
Who knew? Who cares?
forestal
I'm the Boss of Me
Wikipedia is great. They don't have to depend on biased false information, they link to other sites. like the Senate Intelligence Committe....
Geeze, I have to do all the heavy lifting for you guys. You're so prejudiced against any news that doesn't come Faux News...
How about the Senate Intelligence Committee Report?
pages 82-83
Postwar Findings about Iraq's WMD Programs and Links to Terrorism and How they Compare with Prewar Assessments
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
and..
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that "Postwar findings support the April 2002 Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) assessment that there was no credible reporting on al-Qa'ida training at Salman Pak or anywhere else in Iraq. There have been no credible reports since the war that Iraq trained al-Qa'ida operatives at Salman Pak to conduct or support transnational terrorist operations."p. 108 The CIA and DIA both told the Committee that their postwar exploration of the facility "has yielded no indications that training of al-Qa'ida linked individuals took place there. In June 2006, the DIA told the Committee that it has 'no credible reports that non-Iraqis were trained to conduct or support transnational terrorist operations at Salman Pak after 1991." (p. 108)
Geeze, I have to do all the heavy lifting for you guys. You're so prejudiced against any news that doesn't come Faux News...
How about the Senate Intelligence Committee Report?
pages 82-83
Postwar Findings about Iraq's WMD Programs and Links to Terrorism and How they Compare with Prewar Assessments
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
and..
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that "Postwar findings support the April 2002 Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) assessment that there was no credible reporting on al-Qa'ida training at Salman Pak or anywhere else in Iraq. There have been no credible reports since the war that Iraq trained al-Qa'ida operatives at Salman Pak to conduct or support transnational terrorist operations."p. 108 The CIA and DIA both told the Committee that their postwar exploration of the facility "has yielded no indications that training of al-Qa'ida linked individuals took place there. In June 2006, the DIA told the Committee that it has 'no credible reports that non-Iraqis were trained to conduct or support transnational terrorist operations at Salman Pak after 1991." (p. 108)
You are such an EASY target!!
1. PBS = so liberal slanted, they're almost falling over...
2. Wikipedia, I think I'll go rewrite this article with MY spin....
3. Here's a few signs for ya stool....
forestal
I'm the Boss of Me
Wikipedia's source is the Senate Intelligence Committee, which gets its information from the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency..
Where goes Global Security get it's lies, Rush Limbaugh??
It's all right here on Page 108...
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
Where goes Global Security get it's lies, Rush Limbaugh??
It's all right here on Page 108...
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that "Postwar findings support the April 2002 Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) assessment that there was no credible reporting on al-Qa'ida training at Salman Pak or anywhere else in Iraq. There have been no credible reports since the war that Iraq trained al-Qa'ida operatives at Salman Pak to conduct or support transnational terrorist operations."p. 108 The CIA and DIA both told the Committee that their postwar exploration of the facility "has yielded no indications that training of al-Qa'ida linked individuals took place there. In June 2006, the DIA told the Committee that it has 'no credible reports that non-Iraqis were trained to conduct or support transnational terrorist operations at Salman Pak after 1991." (p. 108)
Oh, bite me.
My source was Global Security.org. Yours is Wikipedia and PBS?!
Guess you've never heard of Laurie Mylroie.
Oh, what the heck - I'll be nice - here's a link to her website for ya'll to broaden your horizons a little bit.
Laurie Mylroie Homepage
"Laurie Mylroie earned her doctorate in Government from Harvard University, with a specialization in the Middle East. She also studied Arabic in Egypt, at the American University in Cairo, and has traveled extensively in the Middle East.
Dr. Mylroie taught in the Department of Government at Harvard as an Assistant Professor, and later became an Associate Professor in the Strategy Department of the U.S. Naval War College. She served as the advisor on Iraq to the 1992 Clinton Presidential campaign and personally briefed the candidate on that issue. She was also a Research Fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Her subscription internet list service, “Iraq News,” has provided comprehensive news coverage about Iraq since 1997. Mylroie's articles have appeared in The American Spectator, Atlantic Monthly, Commentary, Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, New York Sun, New York Times, Newsweek, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and other journals. She has been called to testify before several Congressional committees, including the 9-11
Commission "
Articles by Laurie Mylroie Laurie Mylroie Articles
YVW.
PsyOps
Pixelated
Oh, I thought when our representatives decide for us, BECAUSE WE VOTED FOR THEM, they make those decisions that represent our interests. Now I'm wondering why we even have a representative system.
You make all these things Bush's fault. Bush suggests tax cuts, Congress approves them. Paying for the way has nothing to do with Bush, yet you keep simplistically blaming him for everything. It's Congress you should be blaming. If their are injured vets that aren't being taken care of it's up to Congress NOT the president to fix that problem. But your obsessed hatred for Bush wont allow you to see this.
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PsyOps
Pixelated
The Forestal Equation...
- Bush is an idiot
- Bush got us into this war
- Anyone that volunteers to fight in this war supports Bush's war
- Anyway that volunteers to fight in this war is an idiot
chernmax
NOT Politically Correct!!
Every reply to a Forestal thread is a portion of your life wasted. He's been called every name in the book and still posts. Your replies are his food, he has a fixation with pissing people off so I recommend a not reply for any of his posts. A lip without ears is worthless, thus he may bless us and go away!!!
nhboy
Ubi bene ibi patria
Recommendation noted.
PsyOps
Pixelated
Life in the SOMD forum would be boring without Fauxrest.
chernmax
NOT Politically Correct!!
When he posted several other threads and I recommended no one reply, the treads went away, he's a sociopath that feeds off controversy, thus you are his food. You keep feeding him, I'll advocate people ignore him. He'll serve much better on the Baynet...
nhboy
Ubi bene ibi patria
"I must say, I'm a little envious," Bush said. "If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed."
"It must be exciting for you ... in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks," Bush said.
What an embarrassment this guy is.....
"It must be exciting for you ... in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks," Bush said.
What an embarrassment this guy is.....