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edinsomd

edinsomd

New Member
On base, any way. Seems my 1994 MSF cert is no longer adequate for base access, and I must take an experienced rider course with a sport-bike flavor. Many moons ago I would strafe an apex with a knee dragging while applying just the right amount of back brake- I rather doubt these skills will come up in the course. Anyone taken it? What to expect?
TIA,
Ed
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
Damn, ed:) Let me know how that works. I wasnt on the hit list at the gate, so I'm good:razz: Not to mention, my ride isnt the corner shredder yours is. The deciding factor for sportbikes is if your feet are behind your CG, its a sportbike. Thats what the new regs say.


What they cover? Dunno.
 
ylexot

ylexot

Super Genius
I know they teacher higher speed skills unlike the standard MSF course where you might get up to 30 mph. Other than that, I don't know.

I took the course right after they put out the new instruction, so I'm good for a little while. :razz:
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
Haven't scraped a peg yet, but I have pushed this farther than any bike I've had before, and will keep doing so, careful, of course. I learned my cars limits using identical cars supplied by Dodge on racetracks, and low speed handling courses, I don't have that luxury with the bike, so its a slow learning curve:)

My chicken strips do get smaller every time I ride, but just a little each time. about an 1 inch to 3/4 right now, Ive dropped them an inch in this last two weeks.
 
Pushrod

Pushrod

Patriot
edinsomd said:
On base, any way. Seems my 1994 MSF cert is no longer adequate for base access, and I must take an experienced rider course with a sport-bike flavor. Many moons ago I would strafe an apex with a knee dragging while applying just the right amount of back brake- I rather doubt these skills will come up in the course. Anyone taken it? What to expect?
TIA,
Ed
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So how did they bust you out on that? Others in your situation want to know!
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
Pushrod said:
So how did they bust you out on that? Others in your situation want to know!
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Not sure how they generated the list, but last week, the guards had a list at the gate, and if you rode through, they stopped and bounced your name against the list.
 
ylexot

ylexot

Super Genius
glhs837 said:
Not sure how they generated the list, but last week, the guards had a list at the gate, and if you rode through, they stopped and bounced your name against the list.
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I would guess that it was based on when you got decals (after X date, they start looking at and maybe even recording the date of your MSF card), but it didn't look like the list was very long...
 
Pete

Pete

Repete
edinsomd said:
On base, any way. Seems my 1994 MSF cert is no longer adequate for base access, and I must take an experienced rider course with a sport-bike flavor. Many moons ago I would strafe an apex with a knee dragging while applying just the right amount of back brake- I rather doubt these skills will come up in the course. Anyone taken it? What to expect?
TIA,
Ed
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Yea I took it last year because my 1985 certificate was not good enough. It was OK but nothing to write home about. It was basically the Rider Basic course with a few more events. The only "high speed" (35mph) exercise I can remember was the swerve test and the emergency brake. They rest was the typical slow work. Slalom, figure 8, corner turn and on and on. Basically it was a loooooooooong, hot waste of my time.
 
ylexot

ylexot

Super Genius
Pete said:
Yea I took it last year because my 1985 certificate was not good enough. It was OK but nothing to write home about. It was basically the Rider Basic course with a few more events. The only "high speed" (35mph) exercise I can remember was the swerve test and the emergency brake. They rest was the typical slow work. Slalom, figure 8, corner turn and on and on. Basically it was a loooooooooong, hot waste of my time.
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He's talking about a different course. They have a special course now specifically designed for sport bike riders, but others can take it as well. In fact, next time I take the class, I might go for the sport bike one.
 
Pete

Pete

Repete
ylexot said:
He's talking about a different course. They have a special course now specifically designed for sport bike riders, but others can take it as well. In fact, next time I take the class, I might go for the sport bike one.
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I have a "Sport Full Dresser"! The cup holder is on a swivel to allow for tilting during high speed leans without spilling your drink.

I did not know they had the curriculum developed for the sport bike class. Last year they just did one size fits all.
 
SA475

SA475

"Mark It Zero"
I've taken the Experienced Rider Course by MSF... It was a good course - even for an already experienced rider.
 
aps45819

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
desertrat said:
So are they targeting sport bikes?
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the young vets returning from Iraq/Afghanistan with a pocket full of money and few ways to get the big shot of adrenaline they're used to, seem to like high performance sport bikes. Their attrition rate has been close to the combat losses.
 
SA475

SA475

"Mark It Zero"
aps45819 said:
the young vets returning from Iraq/Afghanistan with a pocket full of money and few ways to get the big shot of adrenaline they're used to, seem to like high performance sport bikes. Their attrition rate has been close to the combat losses.
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That is a very true statement. The second day I was home - I bought one. :) No other way to get that rush.
 
desertrat

desertrat

0_0
aps45819 said:
the young vets returning from Iraq/Afghanistan with a pocket full of money and few ways to get the big shot of adrenaline they're used to, seem to like high performance sport bikes. Their attrition rate has been close to the combat losses.
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And the Navy is now offering a sport bike class.
 
glhs837

glhs837

Power with Control
Pete said:
I have a "Sport Full Dresser"! The cup holder is on a swivel to allow for tilting during high speed leans without spilling your drink.

I did not know they had the curriculum developed for the sport bike class. Last year they just did one size fits all.
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Yeah, but someone finally looked at the stats, and "sportbikes" accounted for a ridiculously high number of military rider fatalitites. Stands to reason, those bike attract the young adreneline junkies, the live on the edge types. And, modern sportbikes being as twitchy as they are, once you do get over the edge, theres no warning, your just done.

So the military got together with the MSF folks and asked for a course to tailored to the military riders. And this was the result

New! Military Sport Bike Training Course
 
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