Cabling being buried down 235??

delmarvawifi

New Member
Government use, it connects PAX and Goddard, etc and also some private sector use. We're taking advantage of a piece that goes from Salisbury to Cambridge. I know some other private sector companies have plans for use too.

I can tell you that back in the beginning of the project Verizon was approached and they were pretty clear they had no interest in using infrastructure that they didn't own.
 

bobbyr1229

Same Old Same Old
Government use, it connects PAX and Goddard, etc and also some private sector use. We're taking advantage of a piece that goes from Salisbury to Cambridge. I know some other private sector companies have plans for use too.

I can tell you that back in the beginning of the project Verizon was approached and they were pretty clear they had no interest in using infrastructure that they didn't own.

Explain to me why verizon has been out there everyday since they started laying conduit and cable?, also why I was approached by verizon with permission to use my driveway which is on 235?
 

delmarvawifi

New Member
Oh, I won't claim to be smart.

I'm actually just here to find out what areas of Southern Maryland don't have any broadband options (air cards and satellite service don't count)

I'll start another forum thread for that topic though. This one just caught my interest.
 

delmarvawifi

New Member
Explain to me why verizon has been out there everyday since they started laying conduit and cable?, also why I was approached by verizon with permission to use my driveway which is on 235?

Good question. Perhaps Verizon is working on a different project. They use Fiber for many other reasons than FiOS.
 

bobbyr1229

Same Old Same Old
Also Contrary to What you have been told or believe the maryland broadband coop has nothing to do with pax it is a board in maryland that was created in congress(see senate bill 753) for the following:

1.FOR the purpose of establishing the Rural Broadband Coordination Office

2.ASSIST IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RURAL BROADBAND
COOPERATIVES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS OF THE STATE

3.COORDINATE WITH THE RURAL COUNCILS IN MANAGING
PROCUREMENT PROCESSES FOR IMPLEMENTING A FIBER-OPTIC BROADBAND
BACKBONE AND OTHER APPROPRIATE BROADBAND TELECOMMUNICATION
SERVICES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS(Which Verizon is the only Fiber Optic Carrier in Maryland)

4.ACT AS A FISCAL AGENT FOR THE RURAL COUNCILS AND RURAL
BROADBAND COOPERATIVES IN FINANCING THE DEPLOYMENT OF BROADBAND
TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS OF THE
STATE WITHIN THE REGIONS SERVED BY THE RURAL COUNCILS FOR THE FOLLOWING:


THE PURPOSE OF THE FUND IS TO ASSIST RURAL BROADBAND
COOPERATIVES IN DEVELOPING BROADBAND TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS AND MAKING THOSE SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC

Im not trying to rant just stating the facts


Not to mention It would be pretty stupid to put the private sector on the same lines as the DOD network dont ya think?
 
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delmarvawifi

New Member
I'm really not interested in debating. I guess I opened a can of worms. We partner with the Broadband Coop and have coordinated meetings with them along with State and County Officials as the perception of the general public is typically incorrect. Whatever, form your own opinion.

Here is their website:

Maryland Broadband Cooperative

Also, research the difference between backbone connections and last-mile providers. The Broadband Coop is not a last-mile provider.

I can say they had/have plans to connect Pax with Wallops Island. As someone else pointed out, perhaps I am using Pax as too general a term.
 

bobbyr1229

Same Old Same Old
For anyone else still interested this info can be found on both the MDBC and TRI-County County Council of Southern Maryland website also Im not saying it is or isnt verizons lines it is marylands lines to lease to whomever they wish to provide "last mile" services in rural or underserved areas Im just saying that from sources verizon is leasing one to bring fios in but anyway heres more info:

BROADBAND FEASABILITY STUDY

For the past five years the Southern Maryland Technology Task Force of the Tri-County Council of Southern Maryland has been actively working on an initiative to implement and expand Broadband technology infrastructure (Cable, Fiber, BPL, Wireless, Cellular, Satellite, etc.) in Southern Maryland.

In 2005 with funding provided by the County Commissioners of Calvert, Charles and St. Mary's Counties, Maryland DBED and Maryland TEDCO, Tri-County Council selected Maryland-based CCG Consulting, Inc. to conduct a detailed Feasibility Study of Broadband in Southern Maryland.

The feasibility study is expected to set the foundation for many future phases of the overall broadband initiative. Successfully implementation and expansion of broadband will assist the region in advancing economic development, improving educational and institutional improvements and enabling development of new capabilities for local homeland security and first responders in the Southern Maryland Area.

MARYLAND BROADBAND COOPERATIVE

MISSION

The mission of the Maryland Broadband Cooperative is to drive economic development through universal, open access to broadband services via a fiber optic network that serves rural Maryland.



VISION
To build an advanced, world-class broadband telecommunications network across the rural communities Eastern, Southern and Western Maryland fostering economic development and supported by its’ members who will provide Last Mile services.





BENEFITS
Specifically, as engineered by MdBC, this universal, open access fiber optic network will provide the following benefits:



· Establish a public/private partnership to promote economic development.

· Advanced open-access fiber optic broadband infrastructure providing competitive carriers an opportunity to deploy innovative, next-generation technologies in local markets;

· Future-proofed assets for the unserved and underserved rural regions of Maryland and the Eastern Shore of Virginia. The system has been designed for scalability, growth, and anticipated technology changes for the many decades ahead.

· A region-wide solution to the lack of advanced telecommunication facilities in rural Maryland/Virginia, while enabling local community conditions to be reflected through the equitable policy of “universal, open access” to all ILEC’s, ISP’s, CLEC’s, IXC’s and other broadband service providers;

· Create a competitive advantage for the region and its communities in the global network economy, which will provide superiority from a telecommunications standpoint with more urban areas;

· Development of local workforce skills for the new global network economy;

· Promote regional job growth, new industry and economic stability;

· Expanding and improving education, health care, government services, telemedicine, distance learning;

· Encouraging new research and development opportunities and initiatives, through partnerships with government research facilities, private institutions, universities, and community colleges;

· Empowering local communities and people to be producers in the new global network economy.
 

bobbyr1229

Same Old Same Old
Furthermore from a board of county commissioners meeting:

"The MdBC will provide connectivity fiber between two asset holders if they join the Cooperative"

(The only two assets partnered with the MDBC in Southern Maryland are Metrocast and Verizon)
 

delmarvawifi

New Member
Furthermore from a board of county commissioners meeting:

"The MdBC will provide connectivity fiber between two asset holders if they join the Cooperative"

(The only two assets partnered with the MDBC in Southern Maryland are Metrocast and Verizon)

What is your source that Verizon is a member? Metrocast yes, Verizon no.
 

royhobie

hobieflyer
Our street is marked for the new Fios just barely past a new PROPOSED development. Now housing there now with no development. But yet they get Fios. I live 4 miles down toward the end. Plenty of houses down here, but scattered. Fios is not intented to go down toward us. We are still on dial up, unless you have the money for the expensive Sat. services.
 

vince77

Active Member
I've had FIOS for approximately 2 years after 20 years of Comcast. IMO there is very little difference in price and service with FIOS is worse ....you have to look beyond any introductory offers........Had reason to call Verizon about a service issue a couple of weeks ago, placed 5 different calls over a period of three days...the shortest waiting period to talk to someone was 12 minutes, longest was 35 minutes.....
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Also Contrary to What you have been told or believe the maryland broadband coop has nothing to do with pax it is a board in maryland that was created in congress(see senate bill 753) for the following:

1.FOR the purpose of establishing the Rural Broadband Coordination Office

2.ASSIST IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RURAL BROADBAND
COOPERATIVES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS OF THE STATE

3.COORDINATE WITH THE RURAL COUNCILS IN MANAGING
PROCUREMENT PROCESSES FOR IMPLEMENTING A FIBER-OPTIC BROADBAND
BACKBONE AND OTHER APPROPRIATE BROADBAND TELECOMMUNICATION
SERVICES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS(Which Verizon is the only Fiber Optic Carrier in Maryland)

4.ACT AS A FISCAL AGENT FOR THE RURAL COUNCILS AND RURAL
BROADBAND COOPERATIVES IN FINANCING THE DEPLOYMENT OF BROADBAND
TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS OF THE
STATE WITHIN THE REGIONS SERVED BY THE RURAL COUNCILS FOR THE FOLLOWING:


THE PURPOSE OF THE FUND IS TO ASSIST RURAL BROADBAND
COOPERATIVES IN DEVELOPING BROADBAND TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES IN RURAL AND UNDERSERVED AREAS AND MAKING THOSE SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC

Im not trying to rant just stating the facts


Not to mention It would be pretty stupid to put the private sector on the same lines as the DOD network dont ya think?

There are a lot of people at Pax and Wallops island who are laughing at you right now, care to venture a guess why?
 

bobbyr1229

Same Old Same Old
I've done my research on everything stated here so go for it and make sure you show the proof also I did not say it wasnt or could not be used by PAX or the government I am saying that the MDBC was not created just for the purpose of serving PAX
 
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Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
I've done my research on everything stated here so go for it and make sure you show the proof also I did not say it wasnt or could not be used by PAX or the government I am saying that the MDBC was not created just for the purpose of serving PAX
No, I think I'll keep navy business on base. Suffice it to say, you really don't have all the right answers.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Thanks for the link. Now I'm wondering why the MDBC denies Verizon being a member and doesn't have them on the member list

Maryland Broadband Cooperative

Weird.

Don't need to read the link, but I know what I've seen.

Dig permits for Wolfe Cable and others to lay the cable for MBC then Verizon trucks on the side of the road splicing the cable.

I would think that makes Verizon SOMEhow involved.

Oh, our fiber run ends at (at least for now) at Camp Winslow Rd. Where the new developments are slated to go in.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Don't need to read the link, but I know what I've seen.

Dig permits for Wolfe Cable and others to lay the cable for MBC then Verizon trucks on the side of the road splicing the cable.

I would think that makes Verizon SOMEhow involved.

Oh, our fiber run ends at (at least for now) at Camp Winslow Rd. Where the new developments are slated to go in.

It's also possible that they've sub-contracted the fibre splicing to Verizon, they are pretty much the local experts.
 
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