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They don't have water to spare for that.
Hijinx
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it would probably take more energy to pump it up than it would make coming down.
Doesn’t have to be fresh water
Say you get 35% loss, that’s still a lot of potential energy you’d be able to unlock. You’re big trouble is that it’s California and they can **** up anything.
glhs837
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But with salt water your equipment suffers
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True, but salt water introduces all kinds of maintenance issues. Corrosion from salt, barnacles, etc... Might raise the cost to beyond acceptable.
Pumped Storage Hydropower
WHAT IS PUMPED STORAGE HYDROPOWER?
Pumped storage hydropower (PSH) is a type of hydroelectric energy storage. It is a configuration of two water reservoirs at different elevations that can generate power as water moves down from one to the other (discharge), passing through a turbine. The system also requires power as it pumps water back into the upper reservoir (recharge). PSH acts similarly to a giant battery, because it can store power and then release it when needed. The Department of Energy's "Pumped Storage Hydropower" video explains how pumped storage works.The first known use cases of PSH were found in Italy and Switzerland in the 1890s, and PSH was first used in the United States in 1930. Now, PSH facilities can be found all around the world! According to the 2021 edition of the Hydropower Market Report, PSH currently accounts for 93% of all utility-scale energy storage in the United States. America currently has 43 PSH plants and has the potential to add enough new PSH plants to more than double its current PSH capacity.
I read an idea about energy storage some time back, and I haven't seen much of it - since.
One of the challenges of a nuclear power plant - I imagine, just about any power plant - is matching demand to production. Now I don't get everything about producing power, but I imagine that while you don't want to produce LESS electricity than needed, if you produce more, you're just going to waste it as heat. But if you use that heat to STORE energy - and I imagine many of them do - you can just run at full speed all the time.
The idea for a nuke plant was to use the extra energy to make hydrogen. It's not as though it's complex, and it's clean. Run at full throttle, use the "extra" electricity to create hydrogen, and just store it and sell it or use it. Unlike say, a battery, it's not going to lose anything.
One of the challenges of a nuclear power plant - I imagine, just about any power plant - is matching demand to production. Now I don't get everything about producing power, but I imagine that while you don't want to produce LESS electricity than needed, if you produce more, you're just going to waste it as heat. But if you use that heat to STORE energy - and I imagine many of them do - you can just run at full speed all the time.
The idea for a nuke plant was to use the extra energy to make hydrogen. It's not as though it's complex, and it's clean. Run at full throttle, use the "extra" electricity to create hydrogen, and just store it and sell it or use it. Unlike say, a battery, it's not going to lose anything.
glhs837
Power with Control
were talking storage, not generation
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Losses with hydropower storage are acceptable, because the goal is to offset the generation of power to a time where it's needed. Use "green" power sources to lift the water, then use the water to generate power when other sources cannot or during higher-than-normal peaks.
If you want to talk losses, a typical solar panel is less than 20% effective at creating electricity from solar.
If you want to talk losses, a typical solar panel is less than 20% effective at creating electricity from solar.
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When it's at the top of the hill, yes. Stored potential energy.
the water is the ' stored ' power ?
One drawback I can see here is that hydrogen sometimes goes all Hindenburgy
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