Can a Cop answer this question for me?

[beamher]

Gawd, I hope this isn't the most interesting thread today.

interesting enough that you posted

 

[mAlice]

interesting enough that you posted

True. I was wondering if this is the most important thing you have to gripe about, and if so, you should be happy about it.

 

[lulu belle]

$100 on base and the standard litering fine.

Wow, didn't know that. Not that I'm a smoker, but hubby is, he must have known that because he has one of those cup ashtray thingers in his truck.......

 

[Mrgaritavill]

Not a cop, but:
It's a two point offense on your license:
And jail, fine, or both:

Is a cigarette really considered "litter" though? They are biodegradable (after some time anyway).

 

[twobit]

Is a cigarette really considered "litter" though? They are biodegradable (after some time anyway).

So if I empty an ashtray in your yard that's okay with you, right?

 

[MMDad]

Is a cigarette really considered "litter" though? They are biodegradable (after some time anyway).

Yes, cigarettes are still litter. Biodegradability doesn't matter.

Paper is biodegradable. Paper is litter.

And butts are not biodegradable:

The cellulose acetate most cigarette filters are made from is a biodegradable resistant material. Depending on conditions, estimate the time taken for them to degrade range from British American Tobacco's 10 months - 3 years[2], to 11 years.

 

[Mrgaritavill]

So if I empty an ashtray in your yard that's okay with you, right?

Wow, calm down there sparky. I'm not saying its not impolite and gross to throw a cigarette on the ground. Just asking a question!

 

[desertrat]

Is a cigarette really considered "litter" though? They are biodegradable (after some time anyway).

The filters don't.

 

[LordStanley]

I am a cop, but couldn't tell you what the fine is. What ever the fine for littering would be is what it is. The problem is that fine is in an obscure part of the transportation article, so many officers, including me, don't bother to look it up. I haven't seen anybody throw a cigarette out of a vehicle in several years. Last time I did, I wrote the ticket.

People tend to obey the law more when they see a cop near by.

the next time your at a stop light, Look over at the curb . Butts all over the place.

 

[Mrgaritavill]

The filters don't.

actually, they do. they just take several years to decompose.

 

[kwillia]

... and to get back to the original point... they can and do start fires if they land in combustible material. I have stopped and put out a fire I spotted on the side of the road before. I caught it in it's early stages and was able to kick the leaves into the road and stomp them out.

 

[MMDad]

People tend to obey the law more when they see a cop near by.

the next time your at a stop light, Look over at the curb . Butts all over the place.

Since I see cops throwing their butts out the window, I suspect it's selective vision by the cops rather than people not doing it.

I'm surprised they don't set up at the 235/4 intersection at the end of the month and fill up their quota. They could set up a cop with binoculars and a video camera (for use in court) watching the left turn lane, then have a production line writing tickets.

 

[BS Gal]

... and to get back to the original point... they can and do start fires if they land in combustible material. I have stopped and put out a fire I spotted on the side of the road before. I caught it in it's early stages and was able to kick the leaves into the road and stomp them out.

:kwillathebear:

 

[MMDad]

... and to get back to the original point... they can and do start fires if they land in combustible material. I have stopped and put out a fire I spotted on the side of the road before. I caught it in it's early stages and was able to kick the leaves into the road and stomp them out.

You're such a responsible citizen!

Next time try juggling on the fire to put it out.

 

[BS Gal]

Since I see cops throwing their butts out the window, I suspect it's selective vision by the cops rather than people not doing it.

I'm surprised they don't set up at the 235/4 intersection at the end of the month and fill up their quota. They could set up a cop with binoculars and a video camera (for use in court) watching the left turn lane, then have a production line writing tickets.

I can honestly say I have never seen a deputy or trooper smoking in their car.

 

[desertrat]

actually, they do. they just take several years to decompose.

I guess it depends on where you drop them.
Tens years is a long time. I actually don't think they should even worry about litter along roads like 235. Let the state clean up once in a while. The signs, trucks, poles and buildings are eye pollution on a much larger scale than a few burger wrappers and drink containers. Out in the countryside I think it should be enforced.
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[desertrat]

I can honestly say I have never seen a deputy or trooper smoking in their car.

It is pretty hard to talk on your cell phone, smoke, drink coffee and drive at the same time.

 

[Mrgaritavill]

I can honestly say I have never seen a deputy or trooper smoking in their car.

Really?! I see it all the time.

 

[MMDad]

It is pretty hard to talk on your cell phone, smoke, drink coffee and drive at the same time.

Yeah, if you do all that you might drop your donut.

 

[BS Gal]

It is pretty hard to talk on your cell phone, smoke, drink coffee and drive at the same time.

:shrug: No, it's not.