Can anyone else send Steny Hoyer an email.

Toxick

Splat
When Trump repeatedly told his supporters to "stop the steal" What do you believe he was saying?

Clearly not what you believe he was saying.

Certainly, I never heard a call to violence.



Did they in anyway have any legal authority or power to stop the election?

Stop the steal does not equal stop the election.



At most I think he expected a protest.


Which, last I heard, was legal.



The only thing available to them was physical force

Or protesting.

"Resist" what the rallying cry 4 years ago. "Stop the Steal" falls right into the same vein, in my humble opinion.


Or do you think "Resist" was also a call to violence by the left?



as there is no legal means for a rag tag group of lunatics to over turn a free and fair election.


By repeatedly claiming his supporters had the power to over turn the results of an election "stolen" from him Trump incited the violence that took place a the capitol.


There is a whole lot of assumption in this leap of logic that I'm not willing to make.

You are also crediting Trump with foresight bordering on precognition, the likes of which only masterminds and supervillains possess. I find it hard to believe you would bestow such genius to someone you simultaneously believe to be a incompetent simpleton.
 

easyliving45

Active Member
Clearly not what you believe he was saying.

Certainly, I never heard a call to violence.





Stop the steal does not equal stop the election.



At most I think he expected a protest.


Which, last I heard, was legal.

Or protesting.

"Resist" what the rallying cry 4 years ago. "Stop the Steal" falls right into the same vein, in my humble opinion.


Or do you think "Resist" was also a call to violence by the left?


There is a whole lot of assumption in this leap of logic that I'm not willing to make.

You are also crediting Trump with foresight bordering on precognition, the likes of which only masterminds and supervillains possess. I find it hard to believe you would bestow such genius to someone you simultaneously believe to be a incompetent simpleton.


You rown explanation makes my case

"Stop" means to stop something that is occurring. Like certifying an election. Protest doesn't mean the same as Stop

"Resist" means to push back against something that has already happened. Resist does not mean the same as Stop.


If you watched the video shown at trial yesterday the rioters where calling for Pence and looking for him so they could stop him from certifying the vote which Trump told his followers to do and that Pence had the power to do...
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
You rown explanation makes my case

"Stop" means to stop something that is occurring. Like certifying an election. Protest doesn't mean the same as Stop

"Resist" means to push back against something that has already happened. Resist does not mean the same as Stop.


If you watched the video shown at trial yesterday the rioters where calling for Pence and looking for him so they could stop him from certifying the vote which Trump told his followers to do and that Pence had the power to do...
You a mess, Jimmy. So, looking forward, whatcha going to go obsess about next?..after the Senate fails to convict Trump?
 

Toxick

Splat
You rown explanation makes my case

Well, you seem to have a habit of seeing what you want to see, and believing what you want to believe.... so the number of ****s I give about what you think "makes your case" is exactly zero.




"Stop" means to stop something that is occurring. Like certifying an election. Protest doesn't mean the same as Stop

"Resist" means to push back against something that has already happened. Resist does not mean the same as Stop.



Semantic bullshit.



I could argue that "protesting" and "resisting" are attempts to stop something you don't like - but this conversation has become circular and boring as all hell. It wasn't much to begin with, but if you want to simply bandy words at this point, I am not interested.
 

easyliving45

Active Member
Well, you seem to have a habit of seeing what you want to see, and believing what you want to believe.... so the number of ****s I give about what you think "makes your case" is exactly zero.








Semantic bullshit.



I could argue that "protesting" and "resisting" are attempts to stop something you don't like - but this conversation has become circular and boring as all hell. It wasn't much to begin with, but if you want to simply bandy words at this point, I am not interested.


Pot meet kettle.

You tried to conflate resisting with stopping a free and fair election.

And a peaceful march with storming the capitol and killing people.

You are pathetic.


And the reason Trump got a way with as much as he did.

Just like a frog in a slowly boiling pot Trump and the GOP slowly ramped up their bad behavior until it was too late for you to denounce them.


8 years ago Mitt Romney was the candidate for the GOP.

A month ago Trump supporters tried to hun him down and kill him for not kowtowing to every one of Trumps whims.


The GOP has lost its sole for a bright orange conman who used them to enrich himself and couldn't care less about them or America as a whole.
 

Toxick

Splat
You tried to conflate resisting with stopping a free and fair election.

No, I didn't.


And a peaceful march with storming the capitol and killing people.

No, I didn't.



And again, you're seeing what you want to see, and reading what you want to read.

You make make a great many assumptions and perceive connections where there are none. You clearly do not grasp the difference between correlation and causation and you lack reading comprehension.

You are pathetic.

Yeah - well, at least I don't make personal attacks on people just because they disagree with my perception and interpretation of events. So I got that going for me, which is nice.



A month ago Trump supporters tried to hun him down and kill him for not kowtowing to every one of Trumps whims.

The **** are you babbling about?

Who tried to hunt down Mitt Romney and kill him?



There are only two American politicians in my recent memory who have been the actual victims of real unimagined actual violence.

Steve Scalise and Rand Paul.




Neither were attacked by right-wingers.



The GOP has lost its sole for a bright orange conman who used them to enrich himself and couldn't care less about them or America as a whole.

You credit the GOP with a sole (sic)?

I don't care if the GOP lost their soul or not. I do not identify with them, although you may be convinced otherwise. That's OK - I've been called a leftist in here. Everyone wants to pigeon-hole everyone, especially those with whom they have a disagreement.



For the record, I don't think the GOP has or had a soul.
Nor do I think the Democratic party has one either.


Anyway - as I pointed out in my last response this conversation has become repetitive and boring. So I'm going to go do something more useful - like brushing my teeth while eating Oreos.
 

easyliving45

Active Member
No, I didn't.




No, I didn't.



And again, you're seeing what you want to see, and reading what you want to read.

You make make a great many assumptions and perceive connections where there are none. You clearly do not grasp the difference between correlation and causation and you lack reading comprehension.



Yeah - well, at least I don't make personal attacks on people just because they disagree with my perception and interpretation of events. So I got that going for me, which is nice.





The **** are you babbling about?

Who tried to hunt down Mitt Romney and kill him?



There are only two American politicians in my recent memory who have been the actual victims of real unimagined actual violence.

Steve Scalise and Rand Paul.




Neither were attacked by right-wingers.





You credit the GOP with a sole (sic)?

I don't care if the GOP lost their soul or not. I do not identify with them, although you may be convinced otherwise. That's OK - I've been called a leftist in here. Everyone wants to pigeon-hole everyone, especially those with whom they have a disagreement.



For the record, I don't think the GOP has or had a soul.
Nor do I think the Democratic party has one either.


Anyway - as I pointed out in my last response this conversation has become repetitive and boring. So I'm going to go do something more useful - like brushing my teeth while eating Oreos.


Where do you get your news and information?

 

gemma_rae

Well-Known Member
Just like Bin Laden used idiots who thought they would go to heaven and get 100's; of virgins.
Whew, that was quite a delve into the thought process of psychopath, but at least Jimmy has one redeeming quality. He correctly summarized Muslims as idiots
 

RoseRed

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August 8, 2022

Last Chance to Send Me
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A MESSAGE FROM CONGRESSMAN HOYER
We have reached the final week of my annual Facebook Cover Photo Contest, with submissions closing on Friday, August 12th. I've already received many terrific submissions that showcase the beauty of our district. If you would like to enter, please submit your favorite high-resolution photo taken in Maryland along with your name and where the photo was taken to hoyerphotocontest@gmail.com. The winner will be announced in early September, and your photo could be featured as my Facebook cover photo for the upcoming year.
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