Canada, Greenland, and Gulf of America

vraiblonde

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Why are people acting like name changes and territory expansions are so unheard of? I'm guessing because it's Trump :cds: ?

These are the exact same people who cheered on the EU. :dork:

I'd like to have an opinion on this but I haven't heard anyone with half a brain say why it's a bad thing. Who wants to educate me?
 
SamSpade

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vraiblonde said:
Why are people acting like name changes ......
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THAT is the one I find most hypocritical.

The Left tries to change the names of EVERYTHING, from streets, to schools, to pronouns and other words, to military installations to holidays and so on - you know - so as to "not offend". I mean, damn, you're offended by Columbus Day? Thanksgiving?


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Nearly every major body of water near a country has different names for them - is it the Arabian Gulf - or the Persian Gulf?
Is it the East Sea - or Sea of Japan?

Is it the South China Sea - or any of the other names used by Southeast Asia or the Philippines?

The Turks recently decided they want to call the Aegean "the Sea of Islands" or Ege Denizi - they have always hated the fact that Greece claims EVERY ISLAND IN THE AEGEAN as theirs, including islands like Rhodes, and Samos, which is about a mile off the coast of Turkey.

Aside from all of this ---

Names change. It's just history. But a national leader saying, we're changing the name - that happens a lot more than you think.
 
LightRoasted

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vraiblonde said:
Why are people acting like name changes and territory expansions are so unheard of? I'm guessing because it's Trump :cds: ?

These are the exact same people who cheered on the EU. :dork:

I'd like to have an opinion on this but I haven't heard anyone with half a brain say why it's a bad thing. Who wants to educate me?
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Exactly. Think of the increased economic activity to change and replace all the maps of the world, and other similar necessary name changes. Long on mapping and globe making companies. What's not to like? :yahoo:
 
Sneakers

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vraiblonde said:
I'd like to have an opinion on this but I haven't heard anyone with half a brain say why it's a bad thing. Who wants to educate me?
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In the case of Greenland, not sure why or what he has on his mind for this, but if it's to use it for resources (zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements, copper and oil), then I have moral issue, and the Greenies should too. Annex, strip content, leave a mess behind for the Greenies. Since it's no longer another country, no trade or payback might be the case, as it's now US Federal property. Other than mining it solely for those resources, I can't see what benefit there is to bringing Greenland into the fold.

And as far as name changes, the Middle East has had so many country/border/name changes in the past 100 years, they think it normal.
 
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Sneakers said:
In the case of Greenland, not sure why or what he has on his mind for this, but if it's to use it for resources (zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements, copper and oil), then I have moral issue, and the Greenies should too. Annex, strip content, leave a mess behind for the Greenies. Since it's no longer another country, no trade or payback might be the case, as it's now US Federal property. Other than mining it solely for those resources, I can't see what benefit there is to bringing Greenland into the fold.

And as far as name changes, the Middle East has had so many country/border/name changes in the past 100 years, they think it normal.
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So you are a Putin and Xi apologist?


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SamSpade

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Sneakers said:
In the case of Greenland, not sure why or what he has on his mind for this,
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The claim is national security, since it won't be long before the Arctic will be mostly clear - and Russia can move in - with China not far behind, because territorial integrity isn't high on their list. There's too much to exploit and too easy to come at us.
 
Sneakers

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SamSpade said:
The claim is national security, since it won't be long before the Arctic will be mostly clear - and Russia can move in - with China not far behind, because territorial integrity isn't high on their list. There's too much to exploit and too easy to come at us.
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Makes sense, although it may be a while yet before the Arctic is clear. But I get it, and that's makes more sense than the value of the land resources.
 
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Sneakers said:
Makes sense, although it may be a while yet before the Arctic is clear. But I get it, and that's makes more sense than the value of the land resources.
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I think they're not even concerned about it being clear year round - they're talking end of decade.
 
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Sneakers said:
In the case of Greenland, not sure why or what he has on his mind for this, but if it's to use it for resources (zinc, lead, gold, iron ore, heavy and light rare earth elements, copper and oil), then I have moral issue, and the Greenies should too. Annex, strip content, leave a mess behind for the Greenies. Since it's no longer another country, no trade or payback might be the case, as it's now US Federal property. Other than mining it solely for those resources, I can't see what benefit there is to bringing Greenland into the fold.

And as far as name changes, the Middle East has had so many country/border/name changes in the past 100 years, they think it normal.
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The US miners have made a huge amount of progress with remediation after they're done. The old days when they just left a pile of poisonous tailings for the world to clean up are gone now, I'm not saying there aren't some of the old ones grandfathered in. Now if there's an open pit left it's because it was requested to be left open, generally as a reservoir.

I did a lot of research on the subject when I was watching those gold mining shows and watching them bulldoze acres of trees and topsoil. It looked like a huge waste, but they didn't show what was going on in the background. The topsoil is pretty carefully piled and the trees are either reclaimed or mulched and mixed in the topsoil. After mining is completed the soil is replaced in the same order it came out, the top soil is replaced and the whole area is reseeded and native trees are planted.
 
LightRoasted

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Sneakers said:
Makes sense, although it may be a while yet before the Arctic is clear. But I get it, and that's makes more sense than the value of the land resources.
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When the excursion occurs and the Earth tilts 45 degrees, all that polar ice will melt, since it will now be near the new equator.
 
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SamSpade said:
The claim is national security, since it won't be long before the Arctic will be mostly clear - and Russia can move in - with China not far behind, because territorial integrity isn't high on their list. There's too much to exploit and too easy to come at us.
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I'd agree with that, except....we've always had virtually unlimited access to Greenland for defense infrastructure purposes. Going way back to the 1940s
 
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Ok. Just hear me out...
Maybe he's not looking for natural resources at all... isn't Gitmo closing?

Maybe he's thinking about Siberian style Gulags..."You like Soviet Communism so much? Here, this is what happens when you fail to serve the Motherland properly!!"

Give them all of the materials they need to build their own prisons. Put them to work as slaves. As they die off, just replace them with more rainbow haired school teachers...and hope there's 1 or 2 shop teachers in there to show them how to PROPERLY build a Gulag.
 
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