Charles County Government Is Dumping Radioactive Waste Into Potomac!

bcp

In My Opinion
Im good on beer.
havent had any today though.. think I might be going through the DTs or something?
 
BS Gal said:
I'm happy you are taking an interest in what is going on in Charles County. Your best bet is to talk to the employees there. I work for St. Mary's and our BOCC could'nt care less about us. It's all about the Board of Ed.

Thanks for the tip. I will do that.

Kurt ( no link this time)h
 
bcp said:
www.wolfgangcommissioner.com
did not work again. Im not sure what happened, but I dont think it has anything to do with your campaign. at least I hope not.

Wait a minute! I tested it before and after I posted it, and again after reading your post. It worked for me. What could possibly be wrong this time? Could someone else test it please, or give me an idea how to overcome this life crisis? Obviously, on this forum, my whole reputation is at stake!

Kurt (trying one more time) http://wolfgangcommissioner.com
 
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Kain99

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WolfgangCommiss said:
Wait a minute! I tested it before and after I posted it, and again after reading your post. It worked for me. What could possibly be wrong this time? Could someone else test it please, or give me an idea how to overcome this life crisis? Obviously, on this forum, my whole reputation is at stake!

Kurt (trying one more time) http://wolfgangcommissioner.com
Maybe it's something with your system Wolfgang. It's ok all internet savvy can cut and paste!
 
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Kain99

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WolfgangCommiss said:
Wait a minute! I tested it before and after I posted it, and again after reading your post. It worked for me. What could possibly be wrong this time? Could someone else test it please, or give me an idea how to overcome this life crisis? Obviously, on this forum, my whole reputation is at stake!

Kurt (trying one more time) http://wolfgangcommissioner.com
You got it!!! That works!
 
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tikipirate

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Pure Polonium is almost instantaneous, but produces a metric assload of isotopes. The most stable of those has a half life of 138 days. Integrate all of those bad boys under the curve, and your worse problem in the watershed will still be Mercury, DDT, PolyChlorinatedBiphenyls, and PolyBromatedBiphenyls.

But we should give Wolfgang some credit for paying attention.
 
tikipirate said:
Pure Polonium is almost instantaneous, but produces a metric assload of isotopes. The most stable of those has a half life of 138 days. Integrate all of those bad boys under the curve, and your worse problem in the watershed will still be Mercury, DDT, PolyChlorinatedBiphenyls, and PolyBromatedBiphenyls.

But we should give Wolfgang some credit for paying attention.

Thanks for your input. Since you seem to know about this stuff, I would like to talk to you. Something not right on your statement. The LEAST stable isotope, not the MOST stable isotope, has a halflife of 138 days. The most stable isotope has a halflife over 100 years. And halflife is NOT a measure of safety, by any means.

As I said in another forum, I am not saying that I know what will happen with this stuff, I am asaying that THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THIS STUFF.

I conjecture that it will fall out of solution (it is heavier than lead), go to the bottom, be absorbed by plants, and enter the food chain. Plants to minnows, minnows to bass, perch, rock fish, and from those to crabs, and from those to .... Now let's see, who is at the top of the food chain again? But this is all conjecture. Let's just dump it in and wait to see what happens (for those of you who are not following the thread well, this is sarcasm).
Never had glowing crabs before. Maybe they will get cancer, and die, and stop the food chain thing? OOPS! There I go conjecturing again. Let's allow the experiment to continue. Maybe it will be GOOD for the river to dump in one of the world's most radioactive substances, 5000 times more radioactive than radium. Maybe the radioactivity will kill the fecal bacteria that have made the Charles County Government place most of the water off limits this year.

OK, I'm off the soapbox, and that tirade was not diercted at you, tikipirate. Just frustrated with a government who cares more about ice rinks than maintaining water quality along our 500 miles in Charles County alone of shoreline.


Kurt (recently perfected the hotlink thing) wolfgangcommissioner.com
 
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tikipirate

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Kurt,

I was assuming that the material in question was naturally-occuring Polonium-210. The longer decaying isotopes are man-made. Either way, I'm no nuclear physicist and am just plucking info from web sources.

Have you tried to contact the EPA wrt this dumping? At the very least, the county should be enjoined from dumping until a formal study is performed to determine possible deleterious effects. The feds may actually be our friend for once.
 
tikipirate said:
Kurt,

I was assuming that the material in question was naturally-occuring Polonium-210. The longer decaying isotopes are man-made. Either way, I'm no nuclear physicist and am just plucking info from web sources.

Have you tried to contact the EPA wrt this dumping? At the very least, the county should be enjoined from dumping until a formal study is performed to determine possible deleterious effects. The feds may actually be our friend for once.

I am trying to contact the Feds. But there is little in their info about polonium. I surimise that this is either because it is so rare, or because radioactive material may be in some other bailiwick, such as US DOE or NRC.

They have a permit from Md Dept of Environment, and I have requested all records from them.

I am glad that you are interested in this. Please let me know if you find anything that I haven't on the internet. I am particulary interested in finding an expert in Polonium. But when I searched the first time, I just came up with some guy who is a creationist who claims to be the foremost expert. But what he talks about is proving creation through polonium. Didn't understand this and moved on.

Thanks again for your help and input. And please spread the word.

Kurt wolfgangcommissioner.com
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
WolfgangCommiss said:
I am trying to contact the Feds. But there is little in their info about polonium. I surimise that this is either because it is so rare, or because radioactive material may be in some other bailiwick, such as US DOE or NRC.

They have a permit from Md Dept of Environment, and I have requested all records from them.

I am glad that you are interested in this. Please let me know if you find anything that I haven't on the internet. I am particulary interested in finding an expert in Polonium. But when I searched the first time, I just came up with some guy who is a creationist who claims to be the foremost expert. But what he talks about is proving creation through polonium. Didn't understand this and moved on.

Thanks again for your help and input. And please spread the word.

Kurt wolfgangcommissioner.com
It's the EPA that you want to talk with, specifically the EPA’s Radiation Protection Division working together with the Office of Water, it is the TENORM program. Here is a link with some information http://www.epa.gov/radiation/tenorm/drinking_water.htm I suspect that you have already viewed this.
 
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residentofcre

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Claff said:
Everybody Panic


Yeah I was going to say the same thing here. Last election one of the Candidates took on the arsenic issue.

I would suggest that Southern Maryland plan Water Festivals. These should focus on Preservation and Conservation of Ground Water. I think it would help people understand the problem.
 

willie

Well-Known Member
residentofcre said:
Yeah I was going to say the same thing here. Last election one of the Candidates took on the arsenic issue.

I would suggest that Southern Maryland plan Water Festivals. These should focus on Preservation and Conservation of Ground Water. I think it would help people understand the problem.
Speaking of water conservation, what would you do about the ground water source heat pumps that return the water not into a well but into a stream/creek/river. There are a lot of these in Calvert County.
 
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residentofcre

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willie said:
Speaking of water conservation, what would you do about the ground water source heat pumps that return the water not into a well but into a stream/creek/river. There are a lot of these in Calvert County.


Are you talking about Geothermal Wells?
 
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residentofcre

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willie said:
Yes, the original models that, IMO, should be shut down.

Geothermal wells are closed systems. The tube is pretty tough material. A leak is very unlikely.

I don't understand the concern.
 

willie

Well-Known Member
residentofcre said:
Geothermal wells are closed systems. The tube is pretty tough material. A leak is very unlikely.

I don't understand the concern.
The original models are NOT closed systems and they pump around 3 gpm per ton to waste. There are a lot of these systems in use. The propaganda they feed you says the water stays on the earth so it isn't wasted. The Aquia aquifer doesn't work that way.
 
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residentofcre

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willie said:
The original models are NOT closed systems and they pump around 3 gpm per ton to waste. There are a lot of these systems in use. The propaganda they feed you says the water stays on the earth so it isn't wasted. The Aquia aquifer doesn't work that way.

Geothermal Wells are generally only 200' deep loops. They are totally closed systems. They carry an antifreeze type fluid so that they run free in the distribution lines above the freeze zone.

How old are the wells you are hearing about? Where are they?
 

willie

Well-Known Member
residentofcre said:
Geothermal Wells are generally only 200' deep loops. They are totally closed systems. They carry an antifreeze type fluid so that they run free in the distribution lines above the freeze zone.

How old are the wells you are hearing about? Where are they?
They are grandfathered in. It just reminded me of the current John Gott/County Government tricks. When the people of Lusby protested those heat pump systems, the County held a hearing that was actually an infomercial hosted by an Eastern Shore well driller. It didn't go over very well but they still granted the permits. I have a neighbor that has been pouring the Aquia into Mill Creek 24/7 (VERY inefficient) for the last 24 years at 13 gpm.
 
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