Chicago Style Pizza

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
My guess is that this isn't something that actually evolved in Detroit became a local favorite and adopted as a town staple, but something someone at Pizza Hut thought up, and the marketing team came up with the moniker "Detroit Style" to make it seem like an authentic thing, rather than something that a little executive **** dreamed up.

I further guess that when they came out with this, everyone in Detroit looked up, said "What's this shit, now?" And looked back down.



Still, it's not a bad pizza style. They cook up a deep dish rectangular pie with no sauce on it - just cheese and weird-shaped pepperonis with varying thicknesses - and after it's cooked they spoon marinara sauce on the top. I dump parmesan cheese on top of that, myself - but that's just me.
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My SO lived in Nashville and never heard of Nashville hot chicken until the KFC commercials, she said it wasn't a thing, turned out it was, pretty localized within Nashville.

I think the big thing with Detroit pizza is the pan and the Wisconsin cheese.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
Fricken 4.25 for a regular slice ! And IMO really limp not crisp at all. Maybe that is how they do it in NY what do I know ?
:lol: Not at all. A good NY slice is crispy on the bottom and chewy in the middle. If it's soggy, it's been sitting way too long.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
Pretty much!! You can only do so much with cheese, dough and sauce....

Kind of like Mexican food..... it's all the same stuff just put together differently.
Funny you should say that. I was watching a video from a real Mexican chef. Owns two restaurants, one in NY, and the other is his grand mother's place in Hildago Mexico. Where he grew up.
Most of the food we call "Mexican' is Tex-Mex, which is a blend of Native American, American and Mexican.
For example, Mexican's don't have hard shell tacos or burritos or chimichangas.
Generally speaking they don't use flour tortillas, mostly corn.
He says the place voted America's favorite Mexican restaurant is not only not Mexican but isn't even Tex-Mex, that being Taco Bell.
He discussed a lot of misconceptions about Mexican food
Point being Mexican cuisine is much like European cuisine, it varies by location and is typically predicated on what they get in their local market.
Because we are such a mobile society, we also like to have our favorite foods around us. It's why the name most associated with Italian food is Olive Garden. But if you were in Italy you would find nothing like Olive Garden.
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
He says the place voted America's favorite Mexican restaurant is not only not Mexican but isn't even Tex-Mex, that being Taco Bell.
And while I realize real Mexican food is nothing like we associate, I have to admit that I was thinking of Taco Bell when I said it's all the same rearranged.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Funny you should say that. I was watching a video from a real Mexican chef. Owns two restaurants, one in NY, and the other is his grand mother's place in Hildago Mexico. Where he grew up.
Most of the food we call "Mexican' is Tex-Mex, which is a blend of Native American, American and Mexican.
For example, Mexican's don't have hard shell tacos or burritos or chimichangas.
Generally speaking they don't use flour tortillas, mostly corn.
He says the place voted America's favorite Mexican restaurant is not only not Mexican but isn't even Tex-Mex, that being Taco Bell.
He discussed a lot of misconceptions about Mexican food
Point being Mexican cuisine is much like European cuisine, it varies by location and is typically predicated on what they get in their local market.
Because we are such a mobile society, we also like to have our favorite foods around us. It's why the name most associated with Italian food is Olive Garden. But if you were in Italy you would find nothing like Olive Garden.
Nor is American pizza like a true Neapolitan Pizza. :yay:
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
Funny you should say that. I was watching a video from a real Mexican chef. Owns two restaurants, one in NY, and the other is his grand mother's place in Hildago Mexico. Where he grew up.
Most of the food we call "Mexican' is Tex-Mex, which is a blend of Native American, American and Mexican.
For example, Mexican's don't have hard shell tacos or burritos or chimichangas.
Generally speaking they don't use flour tortillas, mostly corn.
He says the place voted America's favorite Mexican restaurant is not only not Mexican but isn't even Tex-Mex, that being Taco Bell.
He discussed a lot of misconceptions about Mexican food
Point being Mexican cuisine is much like European cuisine, it varies by location and is typically predicated on what they get in their local market.
Because we are such a mobile society, we also like to have our favorite foods around us. It's why the name most associated with Italian food is Olive Garden. But if you were in Italy you would find nothing like Olive Garden.
It's hard to beat Taco Bell in a vote because there are thousands of them, their only competition inna vote would be DelTaco and maybe El Pollo Loco. But even if each chain location only got a single vote as a whole they would most likely get more votes than Carlos's Authentic Mexican Cuisine that has one location in a town of 20k people.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
What happened with everyone raving about The Slice House? Wasn't that supposed to be authentic?
It's authentic for the NE corridor (Philly to New Haven) :)
Actually it's made the way a pizza is made in Italy only larger.
Ruddy Duck has good authentic style pizza - size wise.
I've seen a variety of toppings in Italy, except pineapple and ham.

Addendum

My major complaint with most of the pizza is it's not made in a true pizza oven, but on a tray, and a conveyor belt.
Real pizza should be cooked directly on the floor of the oven, be it coal, wood, or gas fired and brick or steel.
The idea is to cook the dough into a nice crisp crust, melt the cheese but not dry the toppings out.
The less time in the oven the better, hence high heat, with the pizza directly on the heat source.
The pans and conveyor system leaves a less than crisp bottom, with a dryer top.
Domino's just flat out sucks, I don't know if I've had anything worse, even a frozen pizza.
 
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vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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He says the place voted America's favorite Mexican restaurant is not only not Mexican but isn't even Tex-Mex, that being Taco Bell.

It's why the name most associated with Italian food is Olive Garden. But if you were in Italy you would find nothing like Olive Garden.

That's because of mass advertising. There are freaking Taco Bells in Texas, surrounded by amazing taquerias, and they do a brisk business.

There is an Olive Garden in Times Square with lines out the door, yet literally half a block away in any direction are authentic Italian restaurants that will blow your socks off.

And that's okay - I'm not going to quibble with Olive Garden (I'm a big fan of their salad) and I occasionally get a hankering for a Dorito Loco taco. People in general do what they're told, and the TV tells them to eat at Taco Bell and Olive Garden. If the TV told them to eat nopales and mole they'd do that.

The US is a mutt country of immigrants, taking its cuisine from all over the world and putting our own twist on it. You CAN get authentic Mexican or Italian or Korean or whatever in many parts of this country, but we largely like our version because that's what the media tells us to like and what we're used to. If you went to any other country and ate at an "American" restaurant you'd likely not even recognize the dish they put in front of you.

And that's okay, too. Food doesn't need to be "authentic" to be good.

If you want, I'll start in on the pizza snobs..... :jet:
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
If you want, I'll start in on the pizza snobs..... :jet:
hey hey hey, low blow. I'm not a fan of chain restaurants in general. Mostly their food is fattening, loaded with sauces and typically high in salt.
It's not very interesting, it's like meatloaf, comfort food.
Cooking for some of these places doesn't require much training or knowledge.
A lot of it is prepackaged and pre-cooked in some cases. It's consistent but done at the sacrifice of flavor and the customers health.
I would say the typical meal is probably almost the entire caloric intact for the day, and loaded with chemicals (to enhance color and preserve the food) and things like corn sweetener and salt.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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hey hey hey, low blow. I'm not a fan of chain restaurants in general. Mostly their food is fattening, loaded with sauces and typically high in salt.
It's not very interesting, it's like meatloaf, comfort food.
Cooking for some of these places doesn't require much training or knowledge.
A lot of it is prepackaged and pre-cooked in some cases. It's consistent but done at the sacrifice of flavor and the customers health.
I would say the typical meal is probably almost the entire caloric intact for the day, and loaded with chemicals (to enhance color and preserve the food) and things like corn sweetener and salt.

I'm not a big fan of chains, either, mostly because they're boring and all the same (which is the reason people flock to them). I'm not the person who will go to a new city and seek out Applebees, but a ton of people do just that very thing.

My mom's idea of Mexican is Carlos O'Kelly. She'd never dream of eating at a place run by actual Mexicans. She followed me to a ramen joint in Austin one time and I wanted to smack her one - it's freaking noodles and broth, what's so weird about that?? She kept saying that if I wanted "Chinese" why not go to the buffet across the street?

So that's who keeps these chains in business - people like my folks; and they are the norm, not us.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
I don't have anything against chains. They are what they are.

I can say I am partial to red Robin for onion rings and fried jalapeños, if I don't feel like making a steak outback has an ok sirloin I like and i'm going to cracker barrel for breakfast a couple of times.

I just don't go expecting anything spectacular.
 

UglyBear

Well-Known Member
I'm not a big fan of chains, either, mostly because they're boring and all the same (which is the reason people flock to them). I'm not the person who will go to a new city and seek out Applebees, but a ton of people do just that very thing.

My mom's idea of Mexican is Carlos O'Kelly. She'd never dream of eating at a place run by actual Mexicans. She followed me to a ramen joint in Austin one time and I wanted to smack her one - it's freaking noodles and broth, what's so weird about that?? She kept saying that if I wanted "Chinese" why not go to the buffet across the street?

So that's who keeps these chains in business - people like my folks; and they are the norm, not us.
Truth. For the same reason why McD’s is the most profitable investment in food service — familiarity. Most people are scared to try new things, and will eat barely edible slop as long as they know what it will taste like.
Most Thai and Chinese restaurants across US have almost nothing to do with actual food in those countries, but when I, as a customer, enter Thai place anywhere, I expect to see a mostly familiar menu, and pay money for familiar food. That’s just good business.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Most Thai and Chinese restaurants across US have almost nothing to do with actual food in those countries, but when I, as a customer, enter Thai place anywhere, I expect to see a mostly familiar menu, and pay money for familiar food. That’s just good business.


IKR ..... more meat then a Chinese family probably sees in a week



like these chain ' Mexican ' restaurants
 
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