Child support for your kids kids.

[Pete]

After reading the Story of Che it made me wonder why courts in their every lengthening reach haven't reached back to the grandparents for child support when their spawn has refused to pay their ordered support.

 

[whome20603]

After reading the Story of Che it made me wonder why courts in their every lengthening reach haven't reached back to the grandparents for child support when their spawn has refused to pay their ordered support.

That's a TERRIBLE idea

 

[sanchezf]

They shouldn't have to, they didn't lay down and make the child.

 

[Pete]

That's a TERRIBLE idea

Why :shrug:

Boy deadbeat impregnates a girl.

Boy deadbeat beats feet and skips on the $55 a week.

Girl goes on public assistance and you and I pay to feed and clothe the kid while grandma and grandpa ride around in their RV.

 

[PrepH4U]

Why :shrug:

Boy deadbeat impregnates a girl.

Boy deadbeat beats feet and skips on the $55 a week.

Girl goes on public assistance and you and I pay to feed and clothe the kid while grandma and grandpa ride around in their RV.

But they cannot use the RV to pick up & drop off grandchild cuz they are too busy

 

[Pete]

They shouldn't have to, they didn't lay down and make the child.

Ah but IF they had been more motivated in teaching their kid values a little more knowing they were potentially at risk for being shafted if he/she creates a kid and skips on the support.

 

[Bay_Kat]

Why :shrug:

Boy deadbeat impregnates a girl.

Boy deadbeat beats feet and skips on the $55 a week.

Girl goes on public assistance and you and I pay to feed and clothe the kid while grandma and grandpa ride around in their RV.

Boy murders someone, leaves the country and the authorities can't find him. Should his parents go to jail for his crime then? Why should the guys parents have to pay for a kid they didn't have anything to do with making.

 

[White Buddah]

I say yes. Not because of the long thread about che but because I am tired of paying for other people and their poor choices. If the family cannot come together and help one another out, why should working strangers have to pay? The working people are going to have to start working harder and longer hours to pay for the lazy and hopeless free loaders.

 

[Pete]

Boy murders someone, leaves the country and the authorities can't find him. Should his parents go to jail for his crime then? Why should the guys parents have to pay for a kid they didn't have anything to do with making.

Completely different scenarios in my book. One is a crime that results in punishment, the other is the ongoing financial support of a "family member"....unless of course you feel that supporting your own flesh and blood family memeber is "punishment".

 

[PantherWoman]

I don't think they should have to pay but "if" they did, the grandparents should have the same rights as the parents as in visitaiton, etc...

 

[Cowgirl]

I don't think they should have to pay. If my son was a deadbeat POS that didn't take care of his children, hell if I'd let him talk to him on the phone or have any contact. In fact, I doubt I'd even talk to him on the phone either.

 

[Pete]

I don't think they should have to pay but "if" they did, the grandparents should have the same rights as the parents as in visitaiton, etc...

Grandparents do have rights of visitation. In the Che thread there are long droning posts about "blood is thickier than water" and "grandparents rights" and so on and so forth. I am pondering if they have claim to more rights and privledges than Joe Schmoe taxpayer perhaps they could be found liable for a portion of the financial support for the kid their kid created then skipped on.

 

[kom526]

I don't think they should have to pay. If my son was a deadbeat POS that didn't take care of his children, hell if I'd let him talk to him on the phone or have any contact. In fact, I doubt I'd even talk to him on the phone either.

I'd hunt his azz down, lay one of those shocker thingies along his testicles and tell him that it's going to hurt him a helluva lot more than it hurts me.

Cause and effect.

 

[Pete]

I don't think they should have to pay. If my son was a deadbeat POS that didn't take care of his children, hell if I'd let him talk to him on the phone or have any contact. In fact, I doubt I'd even talk to him on the phone either.

Why should the taxpayers be forced to financially support the child of a deadbeat when the immediate family has the means to do so?

Or let me phrase it this way; Why does it make people cringe at the thought of Johnny Deadbeats parents having part of their income confiscated by the government to pay for their grandchild, but you have no such revulsion to having a portion of a complete strangers income confiscated by the government to support someone else's child/grandchild?

 

[vraiblonde]

If you can't get money out of the Dad, how are you going to get money out of the grandparents?

If anything, the mother should have to suck it up. She's the one that procreated with a deadbeat.

 

[Pete]

If you can't get money out of the Dad, how are you going to get money out of the grandparents?

If anything, the mother should have to suck it up. She's the one that procreated with a deadbeat.

I agree but once the seed is planted it becomes a human being and not a monthly invoice. Expecting compassionate and honorable behavior is too damn much anymore evidently so screw it, go after the ones that created the deadbeat.

Same way :shrug: drag them into court, garnishment orders and so on. If they skip too then you just keep the case outstanding.

 

[kom526]

Oh, here's a great idea! If the DBD is in arrears, say over $2000 then MAYBE whatever alphabet soup agency is in charge of enforcement should go to the grandparents to track said deadbeat. If they refuse to cooperate then charge them aiding and abetting.

Laws are useless without enforcement and I'd rather see my tax money go towards active enforcement as opposed to public assistance.

 

[whome20603]

Why should the taxpayers be forced to financially support the child of a deadbeat when the immediate family has the means to do so?

Or let me phrase it this way; Why does it make people cringe at the thought of Johnny Deadbeats parents having part of their income confiscated by the government to pay for their grandchild, but you have no such revulsion to having a portion of a complete strangers income confiscated by the government to support someone else's child/grandchild?

It's not their responsibility. I pay taxes, you pay taxes, THE GRANDPARENTS pay taxes, we all pay taxes...some of which goes to Deadbeat X's child support.

Or let me prase it this way: THAT'S LIFE, GET OVER IT.

 

[Elle]

I think about this in 2 ways, you can raise your children to the best of your ability but at some point they become responsible for their own actions and you can not be held liable (there is always an exception to every rule though).

At the same time if the grandparents want to be a part of the grandchild’s life like a parent would be then they should also be willing to help support the child. If they want no ties to the grandchild then they should not be financially responsible for the grandchild.

 

[Pete]

It's not their responsibility. I pay taxes, you pay taxes, THE GRANDPARENTS pay taxes, we all pay taxes...some of which goes to Deadbeat X's child support.

Or let me prase it this way: THAT'S LIFE, GET OVER IT.

I wonder how much less our taxes would be if we didn't have to support all these Families in need of assistance when they have intact immediate family members who have the wherewithal to provide that support in lieu of the government doing it?