LusbyMom
You're a LOON :)
Maybe the person wasn't always a deadbeat. My ex payed for over 5 years on his own, not even through the courts. It wasn't until he remarried 5 years ago that he became a deadbeat.
Child support for your kids kids.
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Maybe the person wasn't always a deadbeat. My ex payed for over 5 years on his own, not even through the courts. It wasn't until he remarried 5 years ago that he became a deadbeat.
Pete
Repete
LusbyMom
You're a LOON :)
Not all custodial parents take taxpayers money. I am not receiving child support but I am also not receiving anything from the state.
But I do find it ignorant that we have had 15 court dates and the deadbeat suffers no consequences for that. That is a waste of the courts, CSE and taxpayers money. Although the state now takes $25 FROM THE CHILD for enforcement. Which is a load of crap.
greeneyes36
New Member
those new wives, i tell ya!!! i was a good 2nd wife... i even wrote the dang checks
) and now i'm a good 2nd ex wife -- i deposit the checks! LOL... okay, that wasnt nice... but ya know what i'm sayin'....
he needs to tell #2 to quit spending that money so he can send it to YOU!
LusbyMom
You're a LOON :)
I didn't procreate with a deadbeat. I was married to him at the time. Who knew that years later he remarried and turned into a deadbeat?
I was just trying to say not every woman hooks up with a man and gets knocked up... some people never expected that their husband would turn into a deadbeat after knowing that person for 13 years.
Pete
Repete
So now we go past the magic line of "basic support" into "standard of living support". It doesn't make any difference.
Pete
Repete
It makes him no less a deadbeat once he stopped paying.
LusbyMom
You're a LOON :)
those new wives, i tell ya!!! i was a good 2nd wife... i even wrote the dang checks
he needs to tell #2 to quit spending that money so he can send it to YOU!
You are too nice!!! And I am SHOCKED you made that comment
LusbyMom
You're a LOON :)
You're right... He is a deadbeat and it is pathetic really. Their is no excuse for it.
kom526
They call me ... Sarcasmo
True, and I've seen that happen before.
There are a million different scenarios, which is why it would be nice if legal types would take that into consideration instead of making blanket laws that do more harm than good.
BadGirl
I am so very blessed
If my son turned in to a deadbeat and ignored his child (emotionally, financially, etc.), I would be mortified. I would find it as a personal failing in teaching him responsibility, duty, and honor. As such, I would, absolutely, provide something - anything - to the care of my grandchild, even if it wasn't mandated by the court system. If that meant buying diapers and food, I'd do it. If that meant paying toward the rent on an apartment or house to ensure that my grandchild had a safe place to live, I'd do it. If that meant driving to get him/her for visits or slipping the mother money so she could buy gas, I'd do it. I'd do whatever I could do to ensure that my grandchild knew without a doubt that someone from his dad's side of the family gave a shiat about him/her. But that's just me.
C
CalvertNewbie
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I'd do the same, because it's not the child's fault that the father (or mother) is a putz. I wouldn't want to miss out on my grandbaby's life either. In addition, deadbeat would no longer be welcome around here until he started paying up and until he played a role in his child's life.
I guess I just can't understand these people. Bad enough not paying for your kids, but I can't imagine my son growing up without me. I can't imagine missing so much of his life, not seeing him all the time. My parents would have kicked my and my brother's azzes if we pulled this crap.
jetmonkey
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Bay_Kat
Tropical
I wanted to say this, but couldn't figure out how to word it.
Interesting discussion.
I have an ex who pays CS (court ordere/judge approved) & has an automatic deduction now, but paid regularly for 3 years and then started bouncing checks. (but, he was taking trips to see family, buying a car, going out nearly every weekend, etc) He was lashing out at me because I refused to "wait in line" to get paid back. WTF? I didn't bounce the checks! I budget my money, it's not my problem that he doesn't. (He makes decent money, no excuse) I told him to go to his mommy/family for the money to pay me the amount he was in arrears for. He did, but after a lot of ugliness.
His mother has never exercised her grandparental visitation rights, she never even calls my kids. (but sends a gift 2 times a year) And I've made it clear my door was always open for her to see them. (or their aunts/uncles) She/they never have.
But then, her son rarely exercises his parental rights, either. (He calls them approx. 3 times a week & talks about 20mins. each time. Due to my being out of state, (again, judge approved) our custody arrangement affords him very liberal visitation rights. He chooses not to exercise them as frequently as his children yearn for.
I have an ex who pays CS (court ordere/judge approved) & has an automatic deduction now, but paid regularly for 3 years and then started bouncing checks. (but, he was taking trips to see family, buying a car, going out nearly every weekend, etc) He was lashing out at me because I refused to "wait in line" to get paid back. WTF? I didn't bounce the checks! I budget my money, it's not my problem that he doesn't. (He makes decent money, no excuse) I told him to go to his mommy/family for the money to pay me the amount he was in arrears for. He did, but after a lot of ugliness.
His mother has never exercised her grandparental visitation rights, she never even calls my kids. (but sends a gift 2 times a year) And I've made it clear my door was always open for her to see them. (or their aunts/uncles) She/they never have.
But then, her son rarely exercises his parental rights, either. (He calls them approx. 3 times a week & talks about 20mins. each time. Due to my being out of state, (again, judge approved) our custody arrangement affords him very liberal visitation rights. He chooses not to exercise them as frequently as his children yearn for.
K
Kain99
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I hate to disagree Pete but sometimes kids act like assclowns even with perfect raising.
As a custodial mom receiving CS, I would agree to that, but then I'm not a druggie whore buying booze, with a ton of new clothes & shoes, hanging out at bars, with a revolving door of boyfriends, either.
OTOH, my ex can clearly see the fruits of his labor: in the (sensible) clothes & shoes his children wear, the activities they are participating in, that they go to the dentist 2x a year & doctors whenever needed, even having some spending money when they DO get to go visit him, etc. They have all the basics they need, and even a little more. So he shouldn't complain about being screwed over in the courts, when his percentage of support is higher than my percentage of support. But he does. (And I know that is directed at me, rather than his kids. )
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Not sure how much Pete is being serious and how much he's just entertaining himself playing the 'who can be the bigger victim' game, so, let's just take it at face value;
If the grandparents can be held responsible, why not the great grandparents? There's plenty of them alive these days. And if them, why not the great, great grandparents? All dead and gone? Just establish what was inherited from them and go after that?
Run on sentence ahead; I would argue that too many lawyers arguing that someone else is responsible for X/Y/Z etc is one of the core problems with our society in the first place and, based on that, I would argue against going back in time and creating a whole new level of responsibilities and it would certainly require all sorts of lawyers in order to argue cases, for and against, where this grandparent is better than that parent and thus gets custody which then leads to the OTHER parent coming back on the scene to not only argue THEY are now the better parent because they got their life together but that now some OTHER grandparent who had nothing to do with this owes them money to help raise the child 'properly' and yet another generation of kids is taught to view the world ever more cynically.
Talk of this kind all leads back to one place; the village. Run by the government.
If the grandparents can be held responsible, why not the great grandparents? There's plenty of them alive these days. And if them, why not the great, great grandparents? All dead and gone? Just establish what was inherited from them and go after that?
Run on sentence ahead; I would argue that too many lawyers arguing that someone else is responsible for X/Y/Z etc is one of the core problems with our society in the first place and, based on that, I would argue against going back in time and creating a whole new level of responsibilities and it would certainly require all sorts of lawyers in order to argue cases, for and against, where this grandparent is better than that parent and thus gets custody which then leads to the OTHER parent coming back on the scene to not only argue THEY are now the better parent because they got their life together but that now some OTHER grandparent who had nothing to do with this owes them money to help raise the child 'properly' and yet another generation of kids is taught to view the world ever more cynically.
Talk of this kind all leads back to one place; the village. Run by the government.
daisycreek
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If the parents of the child (baby) are under 18, then the grandparent of the non-custodial parent is responsible for making the child support payments,
and if custodial parent is under 18 as well the payments go to the custodial grandparents
and if custodial parent is under 18 as well the payments go to the custodial grandparents