Chinese sub stalks battle group and surfaces inside the BG formation!!!

[Lugnut]

They got within 5 miles... 5 MILES of the carrier without being detected until they surfaced!

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20061113-121539-3317r.htm

 

[Nickel]

Fantastic. Just one more thing to keep me up at night.

 

[smoothmarine187]

....and it was diesel powered....they probably could have heard it with their own ears from that far away.......lol

 

[MMDad]

How about this one from Iran:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061111/wl_mideast_afp/iranusmilitaryspy_061111210706

 

[MMDad]

....and it was diesel powered....they probably could have heard it with their own ears from that far away.......lol

You don't know much about submarines, do you?

 

[Ponytail]

How about this one from Iran:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061111/wl_mideast_afp/iranusmilitaryspy_061111210706

That can't be a US carrier. There's no Chinese sub behind it.

 

[aps45819]

....and it was diesel powered....they probably could have heard it with their own ears from that far away.......lol

they're only diesel powed on the surface

 

[smoothmarine187]

You don't know much about submarines, do you?

yes, they use electric power while they are submerged.........I guess you didn't see the "lol" after what I had written.

 

[LordStanley]

I bet the diesel sub didnt see/hear that US attack sub sneaking up behind it either

 

[Severa]

I bet the diesel sub didnt see/hear that US attack sub sneaking up behind it either

Darn, you beat me to it. My husband was an ST (sonar tech) on a LA class sub for 4 years. No way in HELL was there not an SSN on that Chinese sub's tail.

 

[Lugnut]

Darn, you beat me to it. My husband was an ST (sonar tech) on a LA class sub for 4 years. No way in HELL was there not an SSN on that Chinese sub's tail.

Uh, no...

If a 688 had been on it's tail they would not have allowed the sub to get close to the carrier (or any other BG unit) let alone INSIDE the screen without reacting in some fashion.

 

[ylexot]

I bet the diesel sub didnt see/hear that US attack sub sneaking up behind it either

That's what I was thinking. Would have been really funny to see the Chinese sub surface and then see the US sub surface right behind it.

 

[aps45819]

Uh, no...

If a 688 had been on it's tail they would not have allowed the sub to get close to the carrier (or any other BG unit) let alone INSIDE the screen without reacting in some fashion.

the old diesel boats are increadibly quiet

 

[2ndAmendment]

Darn, you beat me to it. My husband was an ST (sonar tech) on a LA class sub for 4 years. No way in HELL was there not an SSN on that Chinese sub's tail.

Unless they didn't hear the Chinese sub. Toshiba sold the technology to the Soviets during th 80's that was used to make the propellers for U.S. Anyone remember that besides me? The Russians have been strapped for cash. Any bets that the Russians sold a little technology to the Chinese?

 

[LordStanley]

Pure speculation, but what about this scenario.....

Chinese sub was not stalking the battle group. It was just sitting there minding its own business, when out of know where this American Carrier BG came with 5 miles of it.

The Captain of the diesel sub surfaced to let the BG know it was there; its intentions were non hostile and didn’t want to get blown out of the water.


Possible? :shrug:

 

[PJumper]

....and it was diesel powered....they probably could have heard it with their own ears from that far away.......lol

Diesel subs, when under water uses it's batteries and can be very quiet, thanks to Toshiba's propeller machining technology.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

Gawd I know this is a stupid question but....why didn't the radar pick it up if it was that close???

 

[2ndAmendment]

Gawd I know this is a stupid question but....why didn't the radar pick it up if it was that close???

Normal radar does not work under water. Sonar is used under water and normally passive sonar (listening) is used. You don't keep your own location secret if you go "banging" around the sea.

 

[Severa]

Unless they didn't hear the Chinese sub. Toshiba sold the technology to the Soviets during th 80's that was used to make the propellers for U.S. Anyone remember that besides me? The Russians have been strapped for cash. Any bets that the Russians sold a little technology to the Chinese?

That very sellout you listed is the reason why my husband will NEVER buy anything Toshiba.

I think Nucklesack's post said it rather nicely. Yes diesel subs are quiet, but our submarine sailors are the best trained in the world. (thanks to Admiral Rickover, may he rest in peace). Just because this Chinese sub surfaced near the Kitty Hawk doesn't mean an SSN or a P-3 didn't have a bead on her.

 

[Nicole_in_somd]

Normal radar does not work under water. Sonar is used under water and normally passive sonar (listening) is used. You don't keep your own location secret if you go "banging" around the sea.

so much for all the movies i ever watched.....thanks for the help