Confused about stopped school bus protocol?

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
That's why there is no walking to Green Holly, no side walks. Doesn't stop the kids after school though.
I think we had sidewalks on all the major roads, but not all the residential streets. There was no designated route to walk, so if we took the shorter route, through a neighborhood without sidewalks, it was on us. Unlike Wildewood, there were no bike or pedestrian lanes painted on the street.
Kids in the neighborhood across the street from HES had to take the bus, also. No cross-walk.
 

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
How about those precious teens who are sitting in mommy or daddys car, they see the bus approaching, but wait until the bus has completely stopped at the stop...BEFORE GETTING OUT OF THE DAMN CAR!!!! REALLY????
 

lucky_bee

RBF expert
How about those precious teens who are sitting in mommy or daddys car, they see the bus approaching, but wait until the bus has completely stopped at the stop...BEFORE GETTING OUT OF THE DAMN CAR!!!! REALLY????
I have zero interest in shuttling my kid to and from the bus stop. But that slowness is part of the teen language :lol:

We have one bus stop in the center of our neighborhood for the whole neighborhood, and its the same stop area for all 3 levels of school. No one needs to be driven, its a tiny 'hood. Elementary age: those kids are all at the stop 10-15 mins ahead of time, usually active and running around playing, etc. Middle school: 5 mins before, all sitting on the sidewalk in their respective areas, no one's talking (to be fair, their bus comes at 6:45 am!). High school: no one is at the stop. None. As the bus is pulling up to its stop, suddenly a dozen high schoolers, including ours, suddenly-yet slowly- appear outta nowhere and saunter their way up to the bus. It is the most amusing and frustrating thing to watch. They are truly on their own time and those are the bus drivers I feel for :lmao:
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
High school: no one is at the stop. None. As the bus is pulling up to its stop, suddenly a dozen high schoolers, including ours, suddenly-yet slowly- appear outta nowhere and saunter their way up to the bus. It is the most amusing and frustrating thing to watch. They are truly on their own time and those are the bus drivers I feel for :lmao:

Seems like a couple of missed buses because they weren't at the stop when the bus arrived would put an end to that.
 

lucky_bee

RBF expert
Seems like a couple of missed buses because they weren't at the stop when the bus arrived would put an end to that.
I agree, but that driver waits for them all.....

Our teen "missed the bus" on a day he didn't want to go to school once....ONCE. He really thought his dad was joking when he told him to go change in to some comfortable walking shoes. We only live 8-10 mins from GMHS, but that's a nice 45 minute walk. Probably closer to 60 by the way he saunters :lol: 🤷
 
In elementary school, we had to walk, no sidewalks. For me, it was about 3/4 mile. Yes, in the rain, 10 feet of snow, uphill both ways..... I got absolutely no sympathy from my folks.... my mom was a librarian at that school and SHE walked everyday too. :ohwell:

When I got to high school, I purposely missed the bus so I had a reason to ride the motorcycle to school, 15 miles.
 

mitzi

Well-Known Member
I would purposely miss the bus sometimes in high school. The stop was around the corner so Mom couldn't see the bus. Mom didn't drive either so there was no way to get to school. That's why I always liked the bus stopping in front of my house when my kids were in middle school and high school. They had to be out there so early and I knew they got on the bus before I left for work. I lived on a back road then and the houses weren't close together. Except the one next to me and across from me. All our kids got on the bus together.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
Kids in the neighborhood across the street from HES had to take the bus, also. No cross-walk.
but I bet they would love to put speed or red light cameras up for their safety.
Plus I bet they walk over to the school all the time to play.
 

RodRugg

Active Member
My grandma used to stand out at the bus stop and taunt the neighbor kids for always riding their bikes through the front yard and leaving cigarette butts in the mailbox. One morning the bus was there and she was screaming at that fat kid next door while he was getting on the bus and this guy in a Buick does three spins in the middle of the road, just misses the bus, goes through the neighbor's ditch and gets airborne, and smacks into a huge tree. He shot right out the front window and so did 16 dollars in change. My grandma says there was a lot more but some of it went down the sewer grate. She said she could see it with a flashlight and it was mostly quarters but there was no way to get it out even trying to pull the grate off with a rope tied to the car. My grandma read about he was a delivery guy and that explained all the change and she guessed he was probably from Calvert County since that's where the funeral was. Anyways, my grandma got called to the school board to testify whether the bus driver did everything right at the bus stop and she said that he did and that the way that delivery guy tried to kind of scramble away after he shot out of the car probably meant that he knew that it was all his fault and that he was in big trouble.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I would purposely miss the bus sometimes in high school. The stop was around the corner so Mom couldn't see the bus. Mom didn't drive either so there was no way to get to school. That's why I always liked the bus stopping in front of my house when my kids were in middle school and high school. They had to be out there so early and I knew they got on the bus before I left for work. I lived on a back road then and the houses weren't close together. Except the one next to me and across from me. All our kids got on the bus together.
We lived way out in the boonies when I was a kid and I had about 1/4-mile walk to the bus stop which was way outa sight of the farmhouse. When I'd get a case of spring fever, I'd stuff some fishing line, hook and some matches in my pocket, along with the pen knife I always carried anyway. I'd hide behind a hedgerow when the bus came and then skedaddle about 3/4 mile down the the hill (narrow dirt road) to a large stream that ran through that valley behind our farm, eventually feeding the Patapsco River. I had a nice fishing hole way back in the dense woods..what used to actually be a mill pond. The race and pond were there but the mill was long gone. Spend the day swimming, fishing for blue gill and suckers and crawdads. Cook em up for lunch right there on the creek bank using a flat rock as a "frying pan". Then I'd gauge by the sun it was about time to get back up the road and hide again when the bus went by..and stroll on back home like it was any other day at school. I was about 8 or 9 years old when I started doing that. ;-)
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
I am a non-PAX worker however, I must say....

Jealousy does not become either of you :yay:
I had to go back and find the derivation of that comment
First, good luck to anyone who thinks that without a college degree they will get a job at PAX, well maybe in food prep or something.
Just good luck in general because jobs are tight, government has been cutting down it's numbers and that forces a cap on contractor support.
The new reorganization also said that nAWCAD will not compete with other labs, to which most through the BS flag, we compete. NAVAIR and the PEO(s) send money where they damn well please, NAWCAD is not part of NAVAIR.

The other myth is that PAX has some mysterious power that only they can do.
There are a long line of bases across the services that thought they were unique.
Sometimes the thing they think that makes them unique has been moved a number of times as bases were closed and DoD realigned it's labs.

Steny Hoyer is not going to save PAX from the State of Maryland. There is a battle brewing that so far the Navy has won.
But the state and the eastern shore have pushed for wind turbine farms on the coast.
Those turbine will block radar and radio reception at Pax River. It's not an inconvenience, it's more of a security risk as the ability to detect low flying aircraft and surface ships (tracking them) would be lost.
But money and political ideology are more important to certain powers in Annapolis.
 

mitzi

Well-Known Member
We lived way out in the boonies when I was a kid and I had about 1/4-mile walk to the bus stop which was way outa sight of the farmhouse. When I'd get a case of spring fever, I'd stuff some fishing line, hook and some matches in my pocket, along with the pen knife I always carried anyway. I'd hide behind a hedgerow when the bus came and then skedaddle about 3/4 mile down the the hill (narrow dirt road) to a large stream that ran through that valley behind our farm, eventually feeding the Patapsco River. I had a nice fishing hole way back in the dense woods..what used to actually be a mill pond. The race and pond were there but the mill was long gone. Spend the day swimming, fishing for blue gill and suckers and crawdads. Cook em up for lunch right there on the creek bank using a flat rock as a "frying pan". Then I'd gauge by the sun it was about time to get back up the road and hide again when the bus went by..and stroll on back home like it was any other day at school. I was about 8 or 9 years old when I started doing that. ;-)

I lived in the suburbs up in Hillcrest/Marlow Heights back then. The bus stop was one stop on a main street. You would have to walk a good way to get to it and it was a full bus load at that one stop. Very few parents could see it unless you lived on that street. We had friends that had cars pick us up at the bus stop too, but we never made it to school. We only were caught one time. Sometimes I wonder how I even graduated :shortbus:.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
I had to go back and find the derivation of that comment
First, good luck to anyone who thinks that without a college degree they will get a job at PAX, well maybe in food prep or something.

There are a lot of people working on the base without degrees. And they're not "food prep or something". There are Vets working there because of the military skills. People with certs such as Security+, CCNA, CISSP, ,etc. who are snatched up because of their skills and credentials.

NAVAIR and the PEO(s) send money where they damn well please, NAWCAD is not part of NAVAIR.

Actually, NAWCAD is part of NAVAIR. Not sure where you're getting your info from.

Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD)
Overview

The Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD) is one of two product centers within the Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR).
 

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
We lived in Clinton, when Clinton was just a little farming community. Lived on a gravel lane with 6 houses. Ours was the last house. My sisters and I would walk the to the end of the lane to catch the school bus, winter, spring and fall. It was between 1/4 & 1/2 mile long. Rain, snow, didnt matter, we walked to the bus stop. The only was who was there to greet us when we got off the bus was our dog!
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
There are a lot of people working on the base without degrees. And they're not "food prep or something". There are Vets working there because of the military skills. People with certs such as Security+, CCNA, CISSP, ,etc. who are snatched up because of their skills and credentials.

Actually, NAWCAD is part of NAVAIR. Not sure where you're getting your info from.

Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD)
We were discussing kids that don't make it through school in a decent manner.
The military was once a place for kids who may have had a troubled past, but not any longer.
You won't get those skills in today's military unless you did well in high school and have the smarts.

The NAWC(s) are separate business units. They perform work for NAVAIR, just because NAWCAD is co-located does not mean that NAVAIR has to send it's work there. Plus, NAWCAD has gone through a realignment,. Even the business units under NAWCAD competed for work, we can send work out to STI, Lakehurst or the FRC as well as keep it in house at NAWCAD, unless the PEO / PM decides they want to send it to China Lake or Pt. Mugu. I've seen work go to SPARAR as well that could have been done here, at Pax.

Yes, the Commander, NAVAIRSYSCOM, is the ranking officer in the chain of command, what he says goes.

But with MAO the alignment with the other commands and NAVAIR HQ will be different.
We were told to remove the "code" from our signature lines. We can only use the title of our division / group.
 
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