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Mikeinsmd · Feb 13, 2006

crabcake said:
And it wasn't Jeff Burton's engine; it was Terry Labonte's ... I thought I heard 'em say Jeff Burton, too.

What happened with TL's engine? He had a good run!!

crabcake · Feb 13, 2006

Mikeinsmd said:
What happened with TL's engine? He had a good run!!

His team tinkered with the carbeurator. :ohwell:

No big loss there though ... he qualified 25th, so he can pretty much only improve. :lol:

kom526 · Feb 13, 2006

Well ol JJ won't be on my fantasy team this week. :lmao:

You'd think that after getting caught cheating last year, Knaus would've knocked it off. :stupidcriminal:

crabcake · Feb 14, 2006

kom526 said:
You'd think that after getting caught cheating last year, Knaus would've knocked it off. :stupidcriminal:

That's what pisses me off about it; it's not like JJ's a Kirk Shelmerdine or Kyle Petty that continuously finishes 20th or worse; he's a consistent front runner ... so why bother with such a stupid risk? :shrug: :banghead:

The unbiased part of me almost does wanna see his ass suspended for a couple weeks. :ohwell:

Penn · Feb 14, 2006

crabcake said:
That's what pisses me off about it; it's not like JJ's a Kirk Shelmerdine or Kyle Petty that continuously finishes 20th or worse; he's a consistent front runner ... so why bother with such a stupid risk? :shrug: The unbiased part of me almost does wanna see his ass suspended for a couple weeks.

I was looking at an article at Jayski's.com, read what they had to say. Do you think JJ had any inkling what they'd done to the carburator?

crabcake · Feb 14, 2006

Penn said:
I was looking at an article at Jayski's.com, read what they had to say. Do you think JJ had any inkling what they'd done to the carburator?

No, but I bet he knew about the tinkering with his rear windshield or track bar ... whatever the hell it was. :neener:

the carbeurator infraction was on Terry Labonte's car. :wink:

Penn · Feb 14, 2006

crabcake said:
No, but I bet he knew about the tinkering with his rear windshield or track bar ... whatever the hell it was.

the carbeurator infraction was on Terry Labonte's car.

You know who I meant! :lmao:

Wonder if TB knew? Do the crew chiefs necesarily tell their drivers that they've added "a little something" to the car?

Now, we were talking about Johnson's car at work this morning, and the post-inspection revelation about the rear window area modification. It gave him more downdraft, or something? How much of an advantage was he getting?

crabcake · Feb 14, 2006

Penn said:
You know who I meant! Wonder if TB knew? Do the crew chiefs necesarily tell their drivers that they've added "a little something" to the car?

Now, we were talking about Johnson's car at work this morning, and the post-inspection revelation about the rear window area modification. It gave him more downdraft, or something? How much of an advantage was he getting?

I don't know if they tell the drivers or not, to be honest. I'd have to think that they do discuss it ... but even if they don't, it's a team. And when the crew chief is penalized, I think they oughta make the driver sit out for that race as well -- yea, even my guy. It'd send a clear message to the owners to quit allowing their teams to do this kinda crap when they start pissing off sponsors who pay to be out on that track and aren't because of this kind of stuff. :ohwell:

Now, if it's a gray area that Nascar hasn't clarified, and a team uses that to their advantage, then oh well. But if it's a clear rule violation, they should lay the smack down ... and yes, that includes MY team. :ohwell:

kom526 · Feb 14, 2006

crabcake said:
I don't know if they tell the drivers or not, to be honest. I'd have to think that they do discuss it ... but even if they don't, it's a team. And when the crew chief is penalized, I think they oughta make the driver sit out for that race as well -- yea, even my guy. It'd send a clear message to the owners to quit allowing their teams to do this kinda crap when they start pissing off sponsors who pay to be out on that track and aren't because of this kind of stuff. Now, if it's a gray area that Nascar hasn't clarified, and a team uses that to their advantage, then oh well. But if it's a clear rule violation, they should lay the smack down ... and yes, that includes MY team.

The sponsor should not have to suffer due to the team's dishonesty. Instead of suspending the driver, make him race but do not give him any driver points. With the chase to the cup format losing out on posibly several hundred points will crush your chances of getting a seat at the head table at season's end. :wench:

crabcake · Feb 15, 2006

kom526 said:
The sponsor should not have to suffer due to the team's dishonesty. Instead of suspending the driver, make him race but do not give him any driver points. With the chase to the cup format losing out on posibly several hundred points will crush your chances of getting a seat at the head table at season's end.

While that idea is reasonable, it's still not enough, IMO. You threaten their relationship with that sponsor (sponsor = $$$$$$) by suggesting they may park the team for that week, and they sit up and take notice, because they know that cash cow is the one footing the bill for all their toys, lifestyle, retirement, etc. :ohwell:

If they don't have to sit at the head table, then that's one less appearance they have to do that year (as evidenced by last season's banquet). :ohwell: