Criticisms of Black People

[BOP]

I miss my old flip phone
Seriously, I use my phone for calls, pictures and texts and can see one of my FB accts and check emails if I want. That's it! I don't download apps and crap I don't want or need. And a restaurant menu is exactly what I do not want on my phone and the young hip chicky that thought she was being cool missed out on two 60+year old ladies that are generally good tippers.
We left there and went to Boomerangs; where we are always treated well and they know us and know we tip well!

My go-to place. Always good food, good service, and if something's not quite right, they make it up to you. Always tip more than 20%, even though I only drink water.

 

[RoseRed]

In addition to black folks, DAR women, and single old men, they don't like to wait on people who only drink water. They reason that people are drinking water because they can't afford or are too cheap for anything else, so why would they tip?

DAR women?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I had a girlfriend once that told me if I left a tip I wasn't getting any after a flirty waitress couldn't wait to do something for me but if ognored her.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

DAR women?

Same question

 

[phreddyp]

Same question

Daughters of the American Revolution also known as the red hat ladies.

 

[stgislander]

It is amazing how a thread about "criticisms of black people" became about tipping.

 

[BOP]

DAR women?

Daughters of the American Revolution.

Despite the contemporary photo on the web site, I've never seen one under 90. Okay, maybe a slight exaggeration, but probably not by much.

Daughters of the American Revolution

The Daughters of the American Revolution is an organization with a deeply rich history while also being truly relevant in today’s world. More than 930,000 women have joined the organization since it was founded close to 125 years ago.

www.dar.org

 

[BOP]

It is amazing how a thread about "criticisms of black people" became about tipping.

New here, huh?

 

[BOP]

Lady talks about "tip baiting" in reference to uber eats delivery type stuff.

 

[Ken King]

It is amazing how a thread about "criticisms of black people" became about tipping.

White guilt!

 

[RoseRed]

White guilt!

You too!?!

 

[vraiblonde]

I have to say this much ---

I'm getting a little weary of the inflation of expected tip. I'm beginning to see the wisdom I saw abroad where tips were either non-existent or greatly discouraged (by management) - or in some places, a standard cash amount.

Growing up - I can easily remember that an expected tip was 10%. All you had to do was move the decimal point. PERIOD. You could just double the tax, but that worked when tax was 5% and not 6. Then it was 15 - and then 20 - and then 25. Quite frankly, it would seem prudent to just raise the cost of the food and be done with tips, because it will end up the same. It won't have the desired effect on the courtesy of the staff, but MOST of the time I go out, it's not that the staff are rude - but that they just don't care.

I'm pretty stingy also on tips when - for example - you order AT THE COUNTER - and then pick it up - AT THE COUNTER - and they want a tip.
Carryout spots - have a tip jar. Or if you're at a buffet - and the "waiter" brings you water. WATER. For that, I'm supposed to tip? What's his job, smiling at me?

The tip is in your control. Nobody tells you how much you have to tip. If you don't want to tip the cashier, you don't have to - I never do even when they hand me the credit card thingie that suggests how much you should tip the person who deigned to ring up your order. If they' actually do something for me, and I include entertaining me in that, I don't tip them. At the buffet, the guy who refills my drinks and clears away my plates is worth a couple bucks.

If they go to no tipping the cost is built into the food. Then you are being forced to tip, and the sh*t waitron who sat outside smoking while your food congealed in the pass gets paid the same as the server who's busting ass and taking great care of their customers. Bad servers need to be encouraged to explore other career options, and not paying them for bad service is how you do that.

 

[vraiblonde]

When I receive great service, I leave a great (cash) tip. I tend to not patronize restaurants where I have received lousy service or food.
For example, my friend, who was a server for 30 years, and I went to the Brick Bistro in PF one afternoon. We sat at the bar and though they were slow, the young lady behind the bar took forever to ask us if we wanted something to drink. We told her what we wanted and asked for a menu and she said to download one on our phones. Uh, no. We again asked for menus and she rolled her eyes at us. She freaking ROLLED HER EYES at us. We got up and walked out. I have not been there since. FWIW, I had always received good service and food during other visits there. But I won't go back.

Brick was so great when it first opened, then went rapidly downhill.

 

[vraiblonde]

I haven't been back to Mama Lucia's in PF in DECADES because of the shabby, neglectful service.

Don't get me wrong: the food was amazing. The service: crap.

DECADES.

The one and only time I went to Mama Lucia's I waited for almost half an hour for my glass of wine until I went up to the bar and got it myself. The food was only so-so.

 

[HemiHauler]

Just delete tipping culture in the US.

It started when the government allowed tips to be counted as wages. That allows restaurants to shift the burden of the income of servers from the business owners to the customers.

The business relationship between serving staff and restaurant owners is none of my business and isn’t up to me to to fund. It’s not up to me to furnish a “livable wage” to serving staff.

I used to be minimum 25% tipper, but have stopped altogether. Enough customers start doing this, and enough servers start quitting because they can’t pay the bills, the sooner the tipping culture will shift.

 

[Kyle]

Bad servers need to be encouraged to explore other career options, and not paying them for bad service is how you do that.

Government service.

 

[RoseRed]

Last time I was at Brick was during the lockdown. Ordered by phone and went in to pick up my carry out. I didn't tip.

 

[SamSpade]

Bad servers need to be encouraged to explore other career options, and not paying them for bad service is how you do that.

I haven’t seen anything to indicate that tipping poorly has any motivational effect on service from rude servers. They get paid, they don’t bust their asses and they’ll still get tips from bleeding hearts who bemoan how badly they get paid.

 

[Hijinx]

I know they do, because I've seen a friend of mine say "I'm not tipping no guy," as though somebody might think he was gay for tipping a male server.

The worst part: my friend had been in the restaurant business as a line cook probably since he got out of the Navy in the early '70s. He was on the Ranger 10 years before I was.

In addition to black folks, DAR women, and single old men, they don't like to wait on people who only drink water. They reason that people are drinking water because they can't afford or are too cheap for anything else, so why would they tip?

My meal was $16.91 today for chicken strips, fries, and cole slaw. With water. I tipped $5.00, as I do everytime I go to the place where everybody knows your name. Unless, of course, I'm buying lunch for someone else. Then, it's still 20% of the total; not the net, which it probably should be.

In fact, about once a month or so, I go to Navy Federal and get a $100 worth of fives, specifically for tipping.

I drink water at the restaurant because I refuse to pay $3.50 for a glass of colored water--Tea.
That's Bullshit. I may be cheap but to me $3.50 for tea is shoving it up my ass and I refuse to pay it.
Doesn't mean I don't tip well.

 

[Hijinx]

I know they do, because I've seen a friend of mine say "I'm not tipping no guy," as though somebody might think he was gay for tipping a male server.

The worst part: my friend had been in the restaurant business as a line cook probably since he got out of the Navy in the early '70s. He was on the Ranger 10 years before I was.

In addition to black folks, DAR women, and single old men, they don't like to wait on people who only drink water. They reason that people are drinking water because they can't afford or are too cheap for anything else, so why would they tip?

My meal was $16.91 today for chicken strips, fries, and cole slaw. With water. I tipped $5.00, as I do everytime I go to the place where everybody knows your name. Unless, of course, I'm buying lunch for someone else. Then, it's still 20% of the total; not the net, which it probably should be.

In fact, about once a month or so, I go to Navy Federal and get a $100 worth of fives, specifically for tipping.

I used to tip with $2.00 bills. They remember that. Don't do it so much any more. you can always leave 2 or 3.