Grumpy
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I saw that lecture, I think it was at Jake and Al's back in the day.
Criticisms of Black People
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I saw that lecture, I think it was at Jake and Al's back in the day.
PeoplesElbow
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I'd think you had been to the titty bar.
He bought me a beer at CIP a few nights later LOL
TPD
the poor dad
I was at iHop last week for breakfast and Learned my lesson on drinks - I paid $8 for OJ and coffee! Never again. By myself, with tip, breakfast was $31 for the drinks, an omelette and toast! No hash browns or grits. Thx Brandon!
Tech
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Taking the wife's tips to the bank. "She's a waitress!!!!"
BOP
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The bleeding hearts are the ones least likely to tip.
SamSpade
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Disagree. But they don’t do it for the person getting money. It’s for themselves. Same reason they give bucks to panhandlers. Mostly - giving them money doesn’t help them. Minimally it keeps them dependent on handouts but mostly they will squander it on drugs, smokes and alcohol.
That isn’t kindness. That’s driving away thinking you’ve helped them.
If lousy service is rewarded - you get more lousy service. If servers get paid tips for service regardless of what they deliver - that person learns it doesn’t matter.
And yeah, I know plenty who give the 20-25 no matter what. In the long run, it has the effect of worsening service and encouraging an overall dependence by the industry on tips rather than wages.
TIP good service. DON’T tip bad service. It works.
In my experience most of the bad service is not the waitstaff its in the kitchen, something the wait staff has no control over. So yeah f**k over the lowest paid person in the chain and feed that power trip!
SamSpade
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Most of the time - SLOW service - I agree, it's not the waitstaff. It's not their fault the kitchen is busy jerking off.
Things that piss me off about waitstaff -
1. Waiting damned near forever for them to even come to our table after we've been seated - and it's sparsely populated. Later recollection of observation - your waitperson was seen chatting or doing nothing, elsewhere.
2. Rude behavior while taking your order - impatience, rolling eyes, sighs and other signs of "I don't want to be here".
3. NOT attending however briefly, to you AFTER your food has arrived. Such as "can you find out why this didn't get here?" or "we're missing a fork" or "we all need refills on water". Their job is to wait on you, not take your order and let someone ELSE bring it.
4. Getting orders wrong - and ARGUING with us about it. And I mean, REALLY wrong.
Basically - interaction WITH the person. Some restaurants over time will try to run little things that presumably endear you to the staff - one place I went to, if there was room at the table, they would take your order sitting down (which is annoying, especially if dining with a small group).
SOMETIMES - slow service - yeah, I do kind of blame it on staff, especially if the slow service is over something that is clearly easily remedied. You ask for a refill - and they take your glass and don't return for a long time. Your wife ordered a SALAD - or soup - and it takes twenty minutes for them to bring it, and you know it's impossible to take that long. One time at Cracker Barrel - our lousy waitress - it was the end of her shift. She took our order - never submitted it - and then went home.
Clem72
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If you can't take two seconds to check-in on the table every 10 minutes to say something like "sorry for the wait, your order should be up soon, can I get you any refills?" then yes, you risk it being taken out on you. Communications are important.
Agreed! Very seldom does that happen in my experience though, most of the wait staff that I experienced on my trip last summer all around the country including eastern Canada were very professional, knew what they were doing and took very good care of me. Mostly comes down to this if you are an ******* you are going to be treated as one!
SamSpade
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AGREED. We've been to many places where the waiter/waitress NEVER came back. Once or twice, I've had to get up from the table and ask "my wife still has no silverware, can you get them? We've asked you twice". My wife often says she has TWO criteria - do they check in - and do they refill her water glass.
SamSpade
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Well that's certainly no incentive to any kind of tip, then, is it?
I agree. But then you are gonna wonder why the table next to you got all of your servers attention and that's because he/she has got you figured out. You know kinda like what this thread is talkin about.