Damn Dog.....

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Trying not to cry at work isn't fun. The picture of her at my desk doesn't help.

Thank you. :smooch:

Remain positive. I kept a log, which was very helpful. As I read all of the information, I wrote down questions that I had, things that just popped up to ask the doctor(s). Mast cells tumors do not react like any other type of cancer and I wanted to be sure I understood everything.
 

yknotpoms

SOMD POM MOM
Pixie if you need a shoulder I am here too. I dont know much on the subject, but here if you need support. These furry kids are just good at stealing our hearts.
 

belvak

Happy Camper
It's on her side, down towards the belly. It's about half the size of a quarter and oval in shape.

I was totally unprepared for this. I had myself convinced that it was just a fatty lump. I recall something about if a lump feels smooth under the skin it's typically fat and if it feels rough it's likely bad. I just wasn't ready for bad news.

:huggy:
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
Damn Pixie. I am so sorry to hear this.
Catt is the expert, so I'd take her advice.
Take heart. Maybe it has been found early enough so viable treatment options are available.
Breathe. :huggy:
 

StadEMS3

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I hope all turns out ok, it makes me very sad to hear of sick or injured animals. :(

After reading all this, I am worried about my Abbi-girl. She's a 7yo GSD and has a lump on her right side rib cage about the size of a dime and it is oval shaped.
 

Nanny Pam

************
Hugs to you, Pixie. :huggy:

Isn't it so nice to have Catt on here to help us with our pet problems?? Thank you, Catt! :buddies:
 

beachnut01

New Member
Vet...

So we use All Kinds in Callaway. We drive by several vets just to go there... WELL WORTH IT. I see Dr Autumn Terry for one dog and Dr Adam Terry for the other dog. They have a new Dr also. BUT I LOVE DR Autumn (and Adam too). I have said many times to my friends and family I wish she was my/my kids doctor! They are clean, friendly, considerate of time, compassionate, educated, I could go on and on and on. Their rates compare with other vets I've been to in MD. (I have not needed the proceedures you are seeking though). Hope this helps....
 

DoWhat

Deplorable
PREMO Member
So we use All Kinds in Callaway. We drive by several vets just to go there... WELL WORTH IT. I see Dr Autumn Terry for one dog and Dr Adam Terry for the other dog. They have a new Dr also. BUT I LOVE DR Autumn (and Adam too). I have said many times to my friends and family I wish she was my/my kids doctor! They are clean, friendly, considerate of time, compassionate, educated, I could go on and on and on. Their rates compare with other vets I've been to in MD. (I have not needed the proceedures you are seeking though). Hope this helps....

They are GREAT!!
But they do not have the equipment to do sonograms (but that was a few years ago).
They are the ones that referred us to Dogs & Cats.
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Pix.

I was thinking about this today. I think what your vet probably did was a needle aspirate of the tumor, not a biopsy. That will show whether there are mast cells in the tumor, which is apparently did. You won't know the grade of the tumor until after the surgery...that's when the biopsy is done, which is generally recommended if it's in an operable area and she has no organ involvement.
 

Fishn Guy

That's Dr. Fishn to you..
So Mily has a small lump on her side that I had hoped was just a fatty tumor. Mk took her to the vet yesterday to have a biopsy done to make sure.... No such luck, it's a mast cell tumor. :bawl: When inspecting her head to toe last night after getting the news I found what's probably another one that's really small.

Couple things.

Does anyone have any experience with this? I've read just about everything online that I can read concerning it but would like some personal experiences.

Second, does anyone have a vet recommendation. I don't want to "shoot the messenger" but I'm completely unhappy with how her current vet handled the entire situation. First of all the appointment was in the morning and we had to call in the evening for results. I understand that they can get busy and that sometimes things can get delayed but the fact that we had to call them for the results rubbed me the wrong way. She also gave no details and being uneducated on it we weren't prepared with any questions. She said, there were mast cells, it's a form of skin cancer, the tumor needs to be removed, we'll call you back with a quote for surgery. After hitting the internet for more information I see there's different stages which corelate to prognosis, reoccurance, etc. Tell me something! Lastly, about 45 minutes later the tech calls with the quote, between $1000-$1200. :yikes: I was fully prepared for it to be expensive but when you can spay an animal for $400, removing a tumor that's just under the skin shouldn't be anywhere near that amount. I just really feel like the diagnosis was handled poorly and that the price is inflated. So, do you have a vet that you love? I'm an emotional wreck and could use some compassion and someone to explain things to me. Cost isn't a problem; I feel like the price we were quoted was inflated but if that's what it costs and it's explained to me I have no problem paying whatever it costs.

How would you like a nice glass of wine?
and some Fishn?
 

Independence

New Member
You really need to get the tumor graded with a biopsy. From there you have options depending on the grade. I spend quite a bit of time at the oncologist in Annapolis. Dr. Peterson may not have the best bed side manner she is very honest and upfront. Her staff more than makes up for her "coldness".

I agree with Catt get started on the benadryl 1mg per pound of dog twice a day and a pepcid or zantac twice a day (usually one dose). Get rid of as many carbs as you can. My boy was a very picky eater too so I had to choose him eating what ever he would eat.

There is a non-invasive injection. It has been successful in MCT's that are Grade 1. Not all vets are aware of this option so do some research on it. Grade 2's are the worst because they can mimic grade 1 or grade 3. I would not recommend chemo for this type of cancer. It doesn't really respond well to the chemo.

"NOW FOR THE GOOD STUFF!!
Cami had several tumors aspirated. All deemed MCT's. Of the seven aspirated, FIVE were injected with a type of prednisone called "triamcinolone". The exact terminology is "intralesional triamcinolone". In a nutshell and certainly nothing scientific here the hopeful end result is that the med BLASTS the mast cells and destroys them. At least in her experience (oncologist) she has had a 50% response rate. If it doesn't kill the MCT's it will at least make them smaller and then we can opt to have them removed via a punch biopsy under another light sedation without having to resort to a full blown "out of it entirely" sedation.
This drug was very INEXPENSIVE......just $7.00 for the 6mg's that was split between five tumors. She goes back again next week for a recheck and quite likely another injection. If this works (crossing everything cross-able) we can hit the other tumors that didn't get injected today.
There is very little info available online about this but I spotted a few articles in the past few nights. I took this info with me and asked her about it. She is one of the oncologists that has been using it for years and it was her name that I found with the info."

Oncology visit MCT's - Boxer Board

If you go to Boxerworld.com - Welcome to Boxer World - The Ultimate Dog Resource! and go under health issues there are several very informative threads on MCT's and treatments. Call name CAMI has had a very long run with them.

There are also studies and trials out there on MCT treatments for dogs. We were in one last year for Indy it was call Palladia.

I am so sorry you are going thru this. I will be praying for a postive outcome.
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
You really need to get the tumor graded with a biopsy. From there you have options depending on the grade. I spend quite a bit of time at the oncologist in Annapolis. Dr. Peterson may not have the best bed side manner she is very honest and upfront. Her staff more than makes up for her "coldness".

I agree with Catt get started on the benadryl 1mg per pound of dog twice a day and a pepcid or zantac twice a day (usually one dose). Get rid of as many carbs as you can. My boy was a very picky eater too so I had to choose him eating what ever he would eat.

There is a non-invasive injection. It has been successful in MCT's that are Grade 1. Not all vets are aware of this option so do some research on it. Grade 2's are the worst because they can mimic grade 1 or grade 3. I would not recommend chemo for this type of cancer. It doesn't really respond well to the chemo.

"NOW FOR THE GOOD STUFF!!
Cami had several tumors aspirated. All deemed MCT's. Of the seven aspirated, FIVE were injected with a type of prednisone called "triamcinolone". The exact terminology is "intralesional triamcinolone". In a nutshell and certainly nothing scientific here the hopeful end result is that the med BLASTS the mast cells and destroys them. At least in her experience (oncologist) she has had a 50% response rate. If it doesn't kill the MCT's it will at least make them smaller and then we can opt to have them removed via a punch biopsy under another light sedation without having to resort to a full blown "out of it entirely" sedation.
This drug was very INEXPENSIVE......just $7.00 for the 6mg's that was split between five tumors. She goes back again next week for a recheck and quite likely another injection. If this works (crossing everything cross-able) we can hit the other tumors that didn't get injected today.
There is very little info available online about this but I spotted a few articles in the past few nights. I took this info with me and asked her about it. She is one of the oncologists that has been using it for years and it was her name that I found with the info."

Oncology visit MCT's - Boxer Board

If you go to Boxerworld.com - Welcome to Boxer World - The Ultimate Dog Resource! and go under health issues there are several very informative threads on MCT's and treatments. Call name CAMI has had a very long run with them.

There are also studies and trials out there on MCT treatments for dogs. We were in one last year for Indy it was call Palladia.

I am so sorry you are going thru this. I will be praying for a postive outcome.

Oooh..good stuff Inde, I forgot about Cami's experience with the shots.
 
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