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But anything people objectivly consider moral is founded in ancient religion.slotted said:
Yes, I do. I believe that God is the creator of the universe and is omnipotent. As such, He is able to suspend all physical laws (you forgot to mention that) and is able to make animals (His creatures) talk, and do anything else He chooses to do. I believe in one God and that He can choose to appear to us in any form He chooses. I believe He chose to come in spirit in Y'shua, Jesus, and chose to give up His life for my salvation. I believe Y'shua rose from the dead and ascended back into heaven. I believe that God comes as the Holy Spirit and lives in me as He does all Christians. He can send angels to talk to us and/or protect us. I believe that satan is real and so are demons. I believe that there is a spiritual war going on and that the earth is the battle ground. I believe that angels and demons are around us and influence our lives. I believe angels and demons may appear to us as normal humans. I believe that demons do possess people, maybe more often than we think. I believe in Y'shua as my Savior and Lord. I believe that I have eternal life because of His promise. I believe the Bible is the history of God's relationship to man from beginning to end and in the end, He wins.slotted said:You should study up a little on Francois.
You consider a book that containes talking asses and snakes, magic fruit, spooky ghosts and goblins, and fiery chariots going up in a whirlwind to be an authority.
Sorry about your condition.
soul4sale
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2ndAmendment said:
You just got the whole Nicean Creed loaded up into the L2 Cache of that brain of yours, don't you?
2nd, did you even read my post about the Commandments? Your best counterpoint was a document written by an agnostic declaring the foundation for secular humanism. "God" meant a lot of things to Thomas Jefferson and his contemporaries, and I don't think their concept even comes close to yours.
You don't strike me as a man given to reflective thought. Stop. Breath. Think.
Are you aware that the concept of Satan as the fundimentalist church now sees him developed in the middle ages? Are you aware that the first half of the Bible you quote as absolute truth was re-edited countless times and the second half was written by people who never met Jesus? Are you aware that most post-Christ books written by early church members were suppressed when the Bible was canonized under the rule of a sociopathic Roman emperor?
The problem with Christian fundimentalism is that there is nothing fundimental about Christianity. If you look hard enough, you'll find that it's all up for interpretation. To me, fundimentalism is a cop-out, an indication that the modern Christian church would rather believe bull than grow spiritually.
Are you aware that most of what you state here as fact is absolutely false?soul4sale said:
PJay
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Shetiger said:
Don't worry about it. They gave me the same and left the same words. You see, its not cool to write of God around here.
It's actually funny how those that don't believe in God seem to fear and hate Him. Also they fear and hate believers.
Why get so upset with the mention of God if you do not believe.
I'm not here to save souls.
That's 2A's mission. He's the loving caring kind.
Me? I'd send you to the wolves in a heartbeat.
Isn't amazing how satan comes out with "people" like slotted and soul4sale? The ID soul4sale says it all; guess he/she already got a buyer. I don't know about slotted's condition, lost, demon possessed, or demon living as human. First two can be overcome. The last one is already too late.
Sad for them. This life is the best they will have unless they do eventually choose God's way of salvation. Even the thief on the cross got a last minute reprieve.
<img src="http://www.grifent.com/forums/images/smiles/GodLovesYou.gif" /> even if you don't love Him. <img src="http://www.grifent.com/forums/images/smiles/grin.gif">
Sad for them. This life is the best they will have unless they do eventually choose God's way of salvation. Even the thief on the cross got a last minute reprieve.
<img src="http://www.grifent.com/forums/images/smiles/GodLovesYou.gif" /> even if you don't love Him. <img src="http://www.grifent.com/forums/images/smiles/grin.gif">
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slotted
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Isn't amazing how santa comes out with "people" like 2A and railroad? The ID railroad says it all; guess he/she already is busy making toys for santa. I don't know about 2A's condition, mystic, dreamer, or just plain sucker living as human. First two can be overcome. The last one is already too late.
Sad for them. This life is the best they will have unless they do eventually choose the tooth fairy's way of salvation. Even the Easter Bunny with his colored eggs got a last minute reprieve.
Sad for them. This life is the best they will have unless they do eventually choose the tooth fairy's way of salvation. Even the Easter Bunny with his colored eggs got a last minute reprieve.
soul4sale
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2ndAmendment said:
Niiiiiiiiice. Well, I certainly am overcome by your superior debate skills. No point in trying to counter such an overwhelming display of authoritative certainty.
But what the hell...
Satan's popular image was taken from the Greek god Pan, and his position in Christianity as the embodiment of evil (as opposed to his Old Testament role as the skeptic and prosecutor) is taken from Persian Zoroastrianism. Look it up.
Not a single verifiable author of the New Testament ever met Jesus. Look it up.
The Emperor Constantine - who presided over the Council of Nicea, where the Bible was canonized and the Nicean Creed written - murdered his brother-in-law, eldest son, and second wife. Not to mention all the raping and sacking his armies committed in the name of the cross. Look it up.
You don't study what you believe, and that makes you a dupe.
Railroad
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Why THANK YOU!
I'd be honored to be counted among the "people" if 2A and RR are there!
Thanks. You did that before I got back to the thread. Nice to have others join in.tlatchaw said:
Thank you slotted for bringing out that satan and his minions are liars and deceivers. The biggest lie that satan has ever perpetrated on humanity is that he does not exist. If satan can convince people that he does not exist, then he is not to be feared. If satan does not exist, then the idea that God does not exist is an easy step. When a person takes that step, satan has that person's soul unless that person finds and believes the Truth at some point in their life.slotted said:
This also brings up a point of contention that I have pointed out before and gotten heat for because of my position. I really do not think Christians should teach or perpetuate the myths of Santa Clause, the Easter bunny, the Tooth Fairy, or other mythical children's fantasies. Obviously, you can if you so choose, but my reasoning is actually pointed out by slotted's post. If Christians teach their Children about God, who they cannot see, and Santa Clause, who they cannot see (or see multiple of, some of whom are obvious frauds), and the Easter Bunny, who they cannot see, and Leprechauns, and fairies, and other mythical beings, it opens the door for satan's lie that God does not exist. We, as our children grow up, let them find out that Santa is not real (or is the spirit of Christmas - another lie - Jesus is the reason for or the Spirit of Christmas), the Easter Bunny is not real, etc, but we also expect our children to believe that God is real. See the problem? Santa and the Easter Bunny are distractions from the real meaning of Christmas and Easter. I became convinced of that when I observed in East Berlin before the wall fell that the Communist regime allowed Santa and the Easter Bunny but persecuted Christians and did not allow manger scenes or representations of the crucifixion.
I don't think it is bad to give gifts at Christmas, but I think Christians should teach that Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Y'shua, Jesus. If our children ask about Santa ( notice what name you can spell if you rearrange the letters), then Christians can use that as an opportunity to teach the real meaning of Christmas. Same thing with the Easter Bunny. I think it would be OK to even tell our children as Christians that Santa and the Easter Bunny are imaginary beings that we have fun with, but that Christians should separate the real God from the imaginary Santa, Easter Bunny, and the like. Doing so allows for the fun of the seasons but keeps the Truth in the season, too.
Not here for debate.soul4sale said: