Dear Kitten Rescuers:

[yknotpoms]

Only the fit survive?

If there is a sever problem I let them go. If there is any doubt I will try to save. I will not try to save a baby with no desire to live....AKA no sucking reflex. If it was a wild animal I would most likely let nature just take is course, but for the domesticated I work to keep them going. Just because someone let them down I do not do the same. That being said if I was to find something highly contagous I would most likely have the vet cull for me as risk could be to high. I take everything on a case by case basis and do my best cat, dog or anything. However, I see your point, just can't help, but stepping in to help if needed. Yes, I have been one up every hour doing feedings, it sucks and can be very heart breaking.

 

[Larry Gude]

And I rest my case. Whose idea was it to save him?

Any cat we got would have been just as sweet as Moose. You know I have good luck with cats (except for Gidget the asshatcat).

The point wasn't who saved him. The point was how good a cat he is. If you are saying Moose is nothing special and just another cat, that all cats are equal, then *sniff* *sob* *wheep* OK.


Good luck? How about Shooter?

 

[vraiblonde]

The point wasn't who saved him. The point was how good a cat he is. If you are saying Moose is nothing special and just another cat, that all cats are equal, then *sniff* *sob* *wheep* OK.


Good luck? How about Shooter?

Moose is a great cat, Shooter was a great cat, Kiki Stinkertoes is a fantastic cat. But there are a lot of great cats in the world. Had we never had these particular cats, we'd have had other great cats instead.

For every Moose that gets nursed to health and becomes a great cat, there is another cat that was just as great that didn't need the nursing, and it didn't get the home.

What I'm saying is that there are an infinite number of cats, and a finite number of homes for them. Why save the sickly ones who shouldn't have made it in the first place, just to add to the cat overpopulation?

 

[Larry Gude]

Moose is a great cat, Shooter was a great cat, Kiki Stinkertoes is a fantastic cat. But there are a lot of great cats in the world. Had we never had these particular cats, we'd have had other great cats instead.

For every Moose that gets nursed to health and becomes a great cat, there is another cat that was just as great that didn't need the nursing, and it didn't get the home.

What I'm saying is that there are an infinite number of cats, and a finite number of homes for them. Why save the sickly ones who shouldn't have made it in the first place, just to add to the cat overpopulation?

What you are saying in your typcial Spartan/pioneer/survival of the fittest fashion is that all the cats are great therefore none of the cats are great and the defining characteristic is whether or not said kitty carried it's own weight on it's path to greatness or was a burden before it became great.

That's what you are saying.

 

[GWguy]

What you are saying in your typcial Spartan/pioneer/survival of the fittest fashion is that all the cats are great therefore none of the cats are great and the defining characteristic is whether or not said kitty carried it's own weight on it's path to greatness or was a burden before it became great.

That's what you are saying.

:whoa:

 

[vraiblonde]

What you are saying in your typcial Spartan/pioneer/survival of the fittest fashion is that all the cats are great therefore none of the cats are great and the defining characteristic is whether or not said kitty carried it's own weight on it's path to greatness or was a burden before it became great.

That's what you are saying.

No. What I'm saying is that if we have 1,000 marbles for every person in the US, and each person who wants marbles will only take an average of 2, and there will be many more who don't want any marbles at all....


...why are we making more marbles?

 

[Cowgirl]

What do you consider to be "nursing back to health?" Do you mean the kittens that need bottle feeding?

 

[vraiblonde]

What do you consider to be "nursing back to health?" Do you mean the kittens that need bottle feeding?

That, and other methods of keeping sick baby kittens alive. My understanding is that Kiki was a mess before Catt got her straightened out. She went to one owner, then back to Catt, then she came to live with me. And I wouldn't trade her for the world. But if she'd died as an infant, I'd have never known her anyway, so wouldn't have really missed anything. I'd have had a different cat - maybe one that's still sitting in a shelter right now - and been fine.

 

[Larry Gude]

No. What I'm saying is that if we have 1,000 marbles for every person in the US, and each person who wants marbles will only take an average of 2, and there will be many more who don't want any marbles at all....


...why are we making more marbles?

I don't think it's necessary to start talking about Moosie's marbles or lack there of. He has a feeling, you know.

 

[Cowgirl]

That, and other methods of keeping sick baby kittens alive. My understanding is that Kiki was a mess before Catt got her straightened out. She went to one owner, then back to Catt, then she came to live with me. And I wouldn't trade her for the world. But if she'd died as an infant, I'd have never known her anyway, so wouldn't have really missed anything. I'd have had a different cat - maybe one that's still sitting in a shelter right now - and been fine.

Well, I think the answer to your question is people like to help animals and it makes them feel good knowing they saved a life, even if some people think it's "just an animal". :shrug:

 

[smdavis65]

I'm sure. But my mind doesn't work that way...I once pulled a lightening bug out of a spider's web...it had already been half wrapped up..but was still alive and fighting. Presumably it had already been bitten and would die soon...but I "rescued" it any way. Now I am fully aware that that bug would die..and that the spider would just catch another one...and I deprived the bug of it's usefullness...but I also couldn't just leave it there to be eaten..knowing it was there. Completely illogical. and I HATE being illogical.

I saw a video about that .

YouTube - Spiders On Drugs

 

[FromTexas]

But if she'd died as an infant, I'd have never known her anyway, so wouldn't have really missed anything. I'd have had a different cat - maybe one that's still sitting in a shelter right now - and been fine.

:wondershowmuchlongertilltheschrodingerpostsstart:

 

[Bann]

You're in luck. The video tape is strangly missing the 2 minutes where you freed the lightning bug that was dying a slow, painful death as the starving spider's poison melts the his insides.

The point wasn't who saved him. The point was how good a cat he is. If you are saying Moose is nothing special and just another cat, that all cats are equal, then *sniff* *sob* *wheep* OK.


Good luck? How about Shooter?

I don't think it's necessary to start talking about Moosie's marbles or lack there of. He has a feeling, you know.

 

[vraiblonde]

Well, I think the answer to your question is people like to help animals and it makes them feel good knowing they saved a life, even if some people think it's "just an animal". :shrug:

It's not that I think they are "just animals". It's that there's so damn many of them, why bother to try and keep them all alive? Why not let nature take its course?

 

[vraiblonde]

:wondershowmuchlongertilltheschrodingerpostsstart:

:yeahright:

Where'd you think you were for a minute?

 

[Bann]

It's not that I think they are "just animals". It's that there's so damn many of them, why bother to try and keep them all alive? Why not let nature take its course?

I get what you mean.

I'm afraid to even take ONE more - I could easily just take 20 of them, because they're so cuuuuuuuuute and needy. But I can't. Can't, can't, can't, can't.

And that's final. I mean it!

 

[vraiblonde]

I get what you mean.

I'm afraid to even take ONE more - I could easily just take 20 of them, because they're so cuuuuuuuuute and needy. But I can't. Can't, can't, can't, can't.

And that's final. I mean it!

Yeah, I said that right before I got Gidget.

 

[Bann]

Yeah, I said that right before I got Gidget.

She's so cuuuute! Well, I have Simon, who's 10 & I think he'd be curmudgeonly with a new addition.

Plus, I was married when I got him, and I didn't try to get anymore due to the Ex only moderately liking cats in general. (although he really liked Simon.) But now, I really have nothing holding me back. I just don't want to start anything.

 

[Larry Gude]

It's not that I think they are "just animals". It's that there's so damn many of them, why bother to try and keep them all alive? Why not let nature take its course?

What's your deal, really? You talk this tough guy, survival of the fittest, let nature take it's course bit and I get that, I do. When I saved Moose I knew he was gonna die, should die, the next day or two because his mom left him to die. She could not afford to care for her healthy ones a cripple and an idjit.
I knew I was messing with nature and probably knocked the universe off it's axis by intervening.

I mean, the long and short of it is that you are right; caring for all these animals is, simply, as a practical matter, very much misplaced priorities.

That said, this Hard Hearted Hannah routine, the tough talk, flies in the face of what you do. When I met you, you had a fresh batch of kittens. You had two more before we got married. And you mommied over them, bottle fed them, lovingly and dutifully made up kittie mash, nurtured them, taught them how to poop, scratch in the litter, wipe from front to back and put the seat back down.

I saw you conjur turds.

Gidge WAS being left to nature. Kiki should have long ago fallen into a garbage disposal while it was running.

You, madam, are the greatest offender of messing with the universe yet, you take exception to the thing. You, my dear, are at odds with yourself.

So, what gives? Are you debating with yourself? Are you trying to break yourself of this heinous habit? Forgive yourself?

I mean, we all have our weaknesses. I have yet to leave a left handed guitar to its fate. I even bought a banjo for Chrissakes. But, the thing is, I don't fight it. I embrace the guitar and my fellow travelers who only want to provide a proper home and upbringing for the only proper use of wood in mankind's history.

You are conflicted.

 

[frequentflier]