Democrats are stupid: example #2,943

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StmarysCity79

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SamSpade said:
PPP loans are very different from student loan forgiveness. They were a temporary solution to help workers keep their jobs during the pandemic and it was approved by Congress - and was intended to be forgiven under certain circumstances.

I'm finding it odd that so many news outlets are trying to portray Republicans as Grinches while SO VERY MANY DEMOCRATS are crying foul at the program for the same reasons the Republicans are - that it is far more expensive than suggested, it puts the cost of loans agreed to by the recipient onto the backs of people who were not able to go to college, that it is siphoning money from the poor to the rich (THAT is a contention I don't fully agree with, since so very many of the working class will not see as much increase in their federal taxes), it will worsen an economy still recovering and that it's basically unfair - and possibly illegal.

Also being echoed by economists and advisers to the Obama administration - why doesn't the press burrow through THEIR finances?

Socialism by the way, isn't government giving away money - that appears to be most of what the government already does and has for decades. Socialism is the government taking your money and taking over your business.
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Unless taxes are raised for people to offset the loan forgiveness it doesn't actually shift any cost or debt to anyone. The federal government absorbs the loss as these were federal loans. No new taxes have been proposed so yours is just a talking point that makes no sense.

Who's finances are you advocating the press burrow through? And why? The point is the hypocrisy of Republicans who took PPP loans ( scary socialism) and had those loans forgiven in ( in the case of Matt Gaetz who owns no business and has no employees to the tune of $450K) now complaining people are getting their student loan balance decreased by $10K

It's also hypocritical to hear Republicans say this is illegal while also saying Trump can declassify anything he wants and take whatever records he want to Mar-a lago without going through the proper procedures.

Both examples show a clear bias by republicans as to what rules and laws are taken seriously based on which party is breaking them.
 
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StmarysCity79 said:
Unless taxes are raised for people to offset the loan forgiveness it doesn't actually shift any cost or debt to anyone.
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No, it just adds to the debt, which increases the interest payments - or they print the damned money and devalue EVERYONE'S money.
 
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StmarysCity79 said:
Unless taxes are raised for people to offset the loan forgiveness it doesn't actually shift any cost or debt to anyone. The federal government absorbs the loss as these were federal loans. No new taxes have been proposed so yours is just a talking point that makes no sense.

Who's finances are you advocating the press burrow through? And why? The point is the hypocrisy of Republicans who took PPP loans ( scary socialism) and had those loans forgiven in ( in the case of Matt Gaetz who owns no business and has no employees to the tune of $450K) now complaining people are getting their student loan balance decreased by $10K

It's also hypocritical to hear Republicans say this is illegal while also saying Trump can declassify anything he wants and take whatever records he want to Mar-a lago without going through the proper procedures.

Both examples show a clear bias by republicans as to what rules and laws are taken seriously based on which party is breaking them.
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You really are a disgusting POS who believes you're gonna benefit from this creeping socialism...
I guess you believe poverty looks good on you?
 
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StmarysCity79

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SamSpade said:
No, it just adds to the debt, which increases the interest payments - or they print the damned money and devalue EVERYONE'S money.
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How much has the debt gone down in your life? How has it effected a single american? It is an arbitrary number that has no relation to day to day lives of anyone. Who are we paying interest to?
 
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StmarysCity79

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GURPS said:
A has NOTHING to do with B Sapidus
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Both are federal loans that were taken with the understanding they would be paid back.

The federal government then agreed to forgive the loans.

Republicans are only complaining about one.

Sounds pretty similiar to me
 
GURPS

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And Hitler Drank Water ...... still completely DIFFERENT Circumstances


Just because you keep saying

both are loans

does not make the situation the same
 
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If you have to ask, you are too ****ing clueless to understand the answer
 

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phreddyp

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StmarysCity79 said:
Yes. That is the rule. But that was not the rule when they agreed to take the loans and agreed to pay them back just as student borrowers did. only later were they forgiven.

My point is these people are hypocrites to condemn student loan forgiveness while pocketing PPP loan forgiveness.
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Those were always the terms for the funds, please try again.
 
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phreddyp

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StmarysCity79 said:
Prove it liar.

As someone who took PPP LOANS that was never the understanding.

Otherwise the wouldn't have called them LOANS
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Please try again, if the loans were found to NOT be used for the correct uses for the business in question, then the loans must be repaid. If not they could be forgiven. Get your facts straight before you spout!
 
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StmarysCity79

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phreddyp said:
Please try again, if the loans were found to NOT be used for the correct uses for the business in question, then the loans must be repaid. If not they could be forgiven. Get your facts straight before you spout!
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So you mean grants
phreddyp said:
Please try again, if the loans were found to NOT be used for the correct uses for the business in question, then the loans must be repaid. If not they could be forgiven. Get your facts straight before you spout!
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Sounds like that scary socialism stuff you guys are always rallying against?
 
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phreddyp

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StmarysCity79 said:
So you mean grants

Sounds like that scary socialism stuff you guys are always rallying against?
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You are a funny little fart, got your back to the wall and still trying to be pertinent. Please continue to try, even a blind pig will occasionally find an acorn.
 
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StmarysCity79

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phreddyp said:
You are a funny little fart, got your back to the wall and still trying to be pertinent. Please continue to try, even a blind pig will occasionally find an acorn.
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It's funny how angry you get when logic and reason shows your buzzwords like socialism, groomer and all the rest are shown to be hypocritical and nothing more than talking points.
 
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