Disney outmaneuvers Dumb Desantis

[vraiblonde]

Because a person looks "foreign ", doesn't necessarily mean they're not a citizen.

Disney employees wear name badges that include their home country or US state. A large number of them are not US citizens. And in fact you see J-1 workers in vacation destinations all over the US. We have a ton of them here in PCB. (One gal from Romania asked for DC and ended up being the lifeguard at my apartment pool at Settler's Landing - I guess the powers that be thought that was close enough. )

Also, the foreign workers who are working there are (1) filling jobs that Americans won't take and (2) paying state and federal taxes.

Stop it. This is Disney, not some bean picker. Also I don't believe they pay state taxes, just federal. Also temporary/seasonal US workers don't have state taxes taken out of their wages - they settle up with their own state when they file their taxes.

 

[WingsOfGold]

You checked their papers, did ya?

You buy Slurpie from me, no?
Usually a give away.

 

[TPD]

And in fact you see J-1 workers in vacation destinations all over the US. We have a ton of them here in PCB.

The local news tonight was talking about a reduction of J1 workers by 50% in Ocean City this year because of the lack of affordable housing in the area. That’s gonna hurt local businesses.

 

[vraiblonde]

The local news tonight was talking about a reduction of J1 workers by 50% in Ocean City this year because of the lack of affordable housing in the area. That’s gonna hurt local businesses.

They're all having that problem. The property owners raise rents because the tourists will pay it, which prices out the hospitality workers needed to keep the area drawing. The council here is coming up with all kinds of stupid ideas to address it.

 

[PrchJrkr]

They're all having that problem. The property owners raise rents because the tourists will pay it, which prices out the hospitality workers needed to keep the area drawing. The council here is coming up with all kinds of stupid ideas to address it.

It used to be called roommates when I was coming along.

 

[TPD]

They're all having that problem. The property owners raise rents because the tourists will pay it, which prices out the hospitality workers needed to keep the area drawing. The council here is coming up with all kinds of stupid ideas to address it.

When the tourists stop showing up because of reduced services, they will figure it out.

 

[HemiHauler]

You buy Slurpie from me, no?
Usually a give away.

You the dude with a red dot on your head?

 

[GURPS]

Who, are you saying, was working in secret behind closed doors?

The Reedy Creek Board before FL took over

 

[Kyle]

DeSantis floats building prison on land next to Disney World

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said Monday that the state might consider building a prison or potentially another amusement park next to land owned by Disney amid his administration’s ongoing feud with the entertainment giant.

The governor’s clash with Disney started when the company came out against his education plan that limits the instruction of gender identity and sexuality in public schools. In response, DeSantis signed a bill that dissolved the private government that oversaw Walt Disney World in the state.

DeSantis floats building prison on land next to Disney World

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said Monday that the state might consider building a prison or potentially another amusement park next to land owned by Disney amid his administration’s ongoing …

thehill.com

 

[awpitt]

Disney employees wear name badges that include their home country or US state. A large number of them are not US citizens. And in fact you see J-1 workers in vacation destinations all over the US. We have a ton of them here in PCB. (One gal from Romania asked for DC and ended up being the lifeguard at my apartment pool at Settler's Landing - I guess the powers that be thought that was close enough. )



Stop it. This is Disney, not some bean picker. Also I don't believe they pay state taxes, just federal. Also temporary/seasonal US workers don't have state taxes taken out of their wages - they settle up with their own state when they file their taxes.

When I lived in Hickory Hills, our lifeguards came from Eastern Europe via Chesepeake Pools.

I'm familiar with seasonal workers. At least the group I deal with file taxes each year in the U.S.

 

[awpitt]

They did

The Reedy Creek Board before FL took over

They didn't do it behind closed doors. Numerous local Orlando TV stations showed footage of the board meetings (when the votes were done) which were held in public session and shown on TV.

 

[Kyle]

When I lived in Hocory Hills, our lifeguards came from Eastern Europe via Chesepeake Pools.

Sounds Racist.

They should have hired some poor Bedouins to act as Life Guards for the pool.

 

[GURPS]

They didn't do it behind closed doors. Numerous local Orlando TV stations showed footage of the board meetings (when the votes were done) which were held in public session and shown on TV.

 

[GURPS]

Disney’s Reedy Creek deal violated state law, attorneys for DeSantis board say​

Disney deals scrutinized​

The board’s lawyers said the previous Disney-friendly Reedy Creek board failed to properly notify affected property owners by mail of the development agreement, a requirement in Florida statutes. Although the agreements were publicly advertised and approved in public meetings, no record was found of those notices being mailed, they said.

“Disney’s efforts are riddled with illegality, and they will not withstand judicial scrutiny,” Thompson said.

Lawyers detailed what they considered to be other problems, such as “unconstitutional” one-sided contractual terms that sought to confer governmental powers to a private business.

“I can tell you that I’ve never seen a more blatant and hostile attempt on a scale like this to openly thwart the law,” said Alan Lawson, a lawyer working for the new board and a former state Supreme Court justice.

They also highlighted the role Disney had in the legal affairs of the Reedy Creek District, flashing an email on a screen they said was from Disney World’s chief counsel John McGowan. The Disney lawyer wrote that he was listed as the drafter of the Reedy Creek legal documents, but it would be better from an “optics perspective” to have a non-Disney employee listed, according to the email.

In a previous unsigned statement, Disney company officials said the agreements were approved in open and public meetings in accordance with Florida law. Disney company officials did not respond to questions about the mail notice requirement.

At issue is a development agreement and restrictive covenants approved on Feb. 8 by the Reedy Creek Improvement District’s Board of Supervisors ahead of a state takeover. State lawmakers voted to put DeSantis in charge of appointing the five members of Reedy Creek’s board, replacing an arrangement that essentially allowed Disney to hand-pick the board and self-govern its theme parks and resorts.

The development agreement preserved Disney’s control over growth and planning, according to the new board’s legal analysis. A separate declaration of restrictive covenants spelled out that Disney must review aesthetic changes to the district’s buildings, among other stipulations.

DeSantis, widely seen as a 2024 GOP presidential contender, vowed to get the agreements voided, which he says run contrary to his desire to end Disney’s control over the Reedy Creek district.

To bolster the state’s case, lawmakers quickly sent to the Senate and House floor bills that would allow the development agreement to be voided by the new board, now known as the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District.

Voiding the development agreement could put the state on shaky legal ground because it would impair a contract, said Jacob Schumer, a Central Florida attorney specializing in local government law not affiliated with the district.

But if Reedy Creek didn’t properly provide notice of the changes to affected property owners, it could bolster the new board’s case, he said in an email.

“Significant case law out there basically says that if statutory notice requirements aren’t followed, then the government action is void from the outset,” he said.

Under the previous arrangement, Disney controlled the Reedy Creek district because landowners elected board members. That gave Disney vast influence on who sat on the board overseeing government services for Disney World.

 

[GURPS]

The Mouse may be in a trap. Yesterday, the Orlando Sentinel ran a story headlined, “Disney’s Reedy Creek Deal Violated State Law, Attorneys for DeSantis Board Say.”

On February 8th, right before the State of Florida took over the Reedy Creek Special District, Disney quietly tried to tie up all the land in the zone to effectively prevent the State from exercising any oversight.

To me, the entertainment giant’s caper smelled desperate. But Disney’s legal maneuvering delighted liberals, and lefty media like the Orlando Sentinel ran glowing articles crowing about how haha, Disney’s clever army of lawyers was running rings around Governor DeSantis, and so forth.

But yesterday, after investigating the facts and circumstances, the new Reedy Creek Board announced that it considered Disney’s 11th-hour deeds and resolutions to be null and void, for a variety of technical and substantive reasons.





Furthermore, lawmakers quickly filed House and Senate floor bills allowing the development agreement to be voided by the new board, which is now known as the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District. So Disney is going to have the problem of defeating the new statute as well as proving its sneaky agreements were properly handled.

Who knows how this thing will play out, but I’m betting against Disney. It’s hard enough to fight City Hall, never mind the entire State government.

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[awpitt]

You can call BS all you want. Doesn't change the fact that the Reedy board took those vote in open session and it was shown on Orlando's metro TV stations.

 

[awpitt]

The Mouse may be in a trap. Yesterday, the Orlando Sentinel ran a story headlined, “Disney’s Reedy Creek Deal Violated State Law, Attorneys for DeSantis Board Say.”

On February 8th, right before the State of Florida took over the Reedy Creek Special District, Disney quietly tried to tie up all the land in the zone to effectively prevent the State from exercising any oversight.

To me, the entertainment giant’s caper smelled desperate. But Disney’s legal maneuvering delighted liberals, and lefty media like the Orlando Sentinel ran glowing articles crowing about how haha, Disney’s clever army of lawyers was running rings around Governor DeSantis, and so forth.

But yesterday, after investigating the facts and circumstances, the new Reedy Creek Board announced that it considered Disney’s 11th-hour deeds and resolutions to be null and void, for a variety of technical and substantive reasons.




Furthermore, lawmakers quickly filed House and Senate floor bills allowing the development agreement to be voided by the new board, which is now known as the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District. So Disney is going to have the problem of defeating the new statute as well as proving its sneaky agreements were properly handled.

Who knows how this thing will play out, but I’m betting against Disney. It’s hard enough to fight City Hall, never mind the entire State government.

☕️ BATHROOM SAUSAGES ☙ Thursday, April 20, 2023 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠

It's a good news roundup! Florida passes lots of commonsense bills; Colorado goes sideways; investigators closing in on Biden crime family; weird signs and wonders; SADS; DeSantis strikes back; more.

www.coffeeandcovid.com

Attorneys for DeSantis Board can say all they want. That doesn't make it so.

 

[GURPS]

Doesn't change the fact that the Reedy board took those vote in open session and it was shown on Orlando's metro TV stations.

then prove it, because that is part of the dispute

 

[StmarysCity79]

Last time I was a Disney (it has be 15 years) there were more foreign workers than American. So yea maybe they are the largest employer in the state but not necessarily American citizens.

That being said now run along and find some news article countering what I just stated.

How do you know the legal status of anyone?

Why do you presume to know if they are American citizens?

 

[StmarysCity79]

A multinational entertainment and media conglomerate based in Burbank, California, the Walt Disney Company helped to catapult the abuse of H-1B visas into the spotlight in 2014-2015, when the corporation laid off 250 of its American workers and forced them to train their foreign H-1B replacements. While in smaller numbers, Disney continues to employ H-1B workers. In FY19, Disney received 49 initial and continuing approvals, compared with 68 in 2014 and 64 in 2015.

What percentage of their employees is 49?

You happened to only see these "dangerous foreign non american wokers"