Dixie Chics who?

[Bustem' Down]

No don't censor them, just don't buy their music. And when they're living in a van down by the river, they can biatch about how screwed up we are.

Yes!

 

[ylexot]

And you can hate them for that. Burn thier cd's in a bonfire and pay for 60 seconds of TV time to tell every why they are c*nts and how much you hate them. But I find it stupid to to censor someone because they are a celebrity.

I haven't heard of anyone calling for them to be censored :shrug:

 

[Bustem' Down]

I haven't heard of anyone calling for them to be censored :shrug:

It's the whole aspect of "thier in the public eye so they can't say how they believe" adittude. Basically censorship without it being official.

 

[ylexot]

It's the whole aspect of "thier in the public eye so they can't say how they believe" adittude. Basically censorship without it being official.

So, do you also consider the long-standing (until recently) tradition of ex-Presidents staying out of politics to be censorship? I consider such things to be matters of class, wisdom, and respect...things that are sorely lacking these days.

 

[Bustem' Down]

So, do you also consider the long-standing (until recently) tradition of ex-Presidents staying out of politics to be censorship? I consider such things to be matters of class, wisdom, and respect...things that are sorely lacking these days.

No as a matter of fact I don't really like that tradition. John Quincy Adams was elected to the House after his presidency. I don'tt think that the white house should be a stoping point for politicians.

 

[Angel]

It's the whole aspect of "thier in the public eye so they can't say how they believe" adittude. Basically censorship without it being official.

It's not censorship. They don't like the papparazzi in their face and that's all wrong according to the celebrities who put themselves in that position in the first place.... BUT when it's convenient for them, it's okay. Why can the celebrities have it their way when it's convenient for them, but not the rest of the time?

They may be in the public eye, but why does that allow their personal opinions to be put upon our youth. I'm sure that people like Charles Manson, and the Unibomber had things that they would like to say. The difference is I (or the youth) didn't pay $40 to hear them. What they paid for was entertainment. It should never be the role of an entertainer to influence the views of other people. The only reason they got paid was for entertainment. Please find one person who paid $40 to listen to Vince Neil (lead singer for Motley Crue) talk about abortion, Iran, war in Iraq, or any current event. In my opinion "If you are not on the list to go to fight for this country then STFU", because there are plenty of non-celebrities who have died for those uneducated idots to say what they want. YOU HAVE AN OPINION, FINE, LIVE IT BEFORE YOU SPEAK IT.........

 

[Bustem' Down]

In my opinion "If you are not on the list to go to fight for this country then STFU", because there are plenty of non-celebrities who have died for those uneducated idots to say what they want.

But the freedom of speech is not dependant on military service. I was deployed to the eastern Med when she did what she did and it didn't affect me in the least. Quite frankly I can think of a whole list of things in music that I would rather kids not hear over a silly political opinion.

 

[Bustem' Down]

They may be in the public eye, but why does that allow their personal opinions to be put upon our youth. I'm sure that people like Charles Manson, and the Unibomber had things that they would like to say. The difference is I (or the youth) didn't pay $40 to hear them. What they paid for was entertainment. It should never be the role of an entertainer to influence the views of other people. The only reason they got paid was for entertainment. Please find one person who paid $40 to listen to Vince Neil (lead singer for Motley Crue) talk about abortion, Iran, war in Iraq, or any current event.

What makes them different from the folk singers of the 60's and 70's, or Green Day's American Idiot album, or anything by Rage Against the Machine?

 

[Angel]

But the freedom of speech is not dependant on military service. I was deployed to the eastern Med when she did what she did and it didn't affect me in the least. Quite frankly I can think of a whole list of things in music that I would rather kids not hear over a silly political opinion.

First of all THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE...... even though it may not have affected you, it may have affected the people around you,,, so do you want somebody thinking about what some singer said or did while he/she is supposed to be watching your back. Remember, it is not necessarily how YOU respond to celebrity opinions or quotes, it's how the person that has your back thinks about it. I agree that there are a lot of things in music that I don't want kids to hear today, but there is a difference in the effect of what a kid hears at school/night clubs compared to what kids (and some of them are kids) hear as they are on the battle field fighting for something that their favorite entertainer says is wrong. Remember, more kids know who Brittany Spears is than which one of the Ghandi's was the important one.

 

[Bustem' Down]

First of all THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE...... even though it may not have affected you, it may have affected the people around you,,, so do you want somebody thinking about what some singer said or did while he/she is supposed to be watching your back. Remember, it is not necessarily how YOU respond to celebrity opinions or quotes, it's how the person that has your back thinks about it.

If there was someone that weak we would have taken care of it long ago. I had no worries. It's why we have a thing called training. There were many days that I myself woke up #####ing about Bush sending me over there.

 

[Angel]

If there was someone that weak we would have taken care of it long ago. I had no worries. It's why we have a thing called training. There were many days that I myself woke up #####ing about Bush sending me over there.

Bush didn't send you there, you volunteered......if it was Clinton would your stance be any different....and as for training, even the best trained mind can wander.....

 

[hwyman3]

Natilie Maines can say whatever she wants and is entitled to any opinion she wants. In the same vein, I have every right to disagree with her as openly as I want. If I express my opinion and people disagree with it, then I'm not going to go and cry about it. If you are someone in the public eye, and you want to state an unpopular opinion, then you should be prepared to face the wrath of the people that made you the celebrity you are!

 

[vraiblonde]

"I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith," Maguire said. "We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do.""

I see...so if you don't "get" the Dixie Twits, you're not cool.

Ms. Maguire has a really inflated opinion of herself and her music. Fans for life? Give me a break.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Bush didn't send you there, you volunteered......if it was Clinton would your stance be any different....and as for training, even the best trained mind can wander.....

No it wouldn't. Sure I volunteered, that doesn't mean I'm not going to b!tch about leaving 4 months early and being stuck at sea for months. Quite frankly I don't like Bush that much, but I joined for a job, not some fanciful ideas of defending the free world, or any sort of political ideologies. I wake up, I go to work, and I go home.

Training produces a reflex action, there is no thinking involved. Something happens and it produces a trained response. If someone stops to think, he's bypassed.

 

[Angel]

Bush didn't send you there, you volunteered......if it was Clinton would your stance be any different....and as for training, even the best trained mind can wander.....

As for Rage or Green Day, make music about what you want, but don't use your clebrity status (because of your music) to make a statement. If I don't like your music I can change the station, but I can not change what is reported on CNN. If you are a poli-sci major, maybe, just maybe, your opinion about polotics should be viewed. If your somebody with good vocals or can play an instrument, how does that qualify you to have an opinion that takes up more that 15 seconds of air time.

 

[Bustem' Down]

As for Rage or Green Day, make music about what you want, but don't use your clebrity status (because of your music) to make a statement. If I don't like your music I can change the station, but I can not change what is reported on CNN. If you are a poli-sci major, maybe, just maybe, your opinion about polotics should be viewed. If your somebody with good vocals or can play an instrument, how does that qualify you to have an opinion that takes up more that 15 seconds of air time.

Rage's whole point to thier music was to make a statement.

 

[slotted]

I love me some Toby.

Oh yea?

Well...... "I love this bar"

 

[SamSpade]

And you can hate them for that. Burn thier cd's in a bonfire and pay for 60 seconds of TV time to tell every why they are c*nts and how much you hate them. But I find it stupid to to censor someone because they are a celebrity.

I don't "censor" them - I just don't listen to them, not even on the radio. I'm repulsed by their actions, and I'm just as free to turn the station as anyone else is.

I don't imagine you agree with this - try to imagine how you'd feel if someone was a declared bigot and racist and made songs about it - but - you used to like their stuff. Would it change your mind? I know some people won't listen to Gary Glitter's Rock And Roll Part 2 - the "hey!" song - because he's repeatedly been found with child porn and a convicted pedophile. Similarly, I know people who are totally turned off by all Michael Jackson stuff, for similar reasons.

Why should you spend your dollars to support someone whose views you hate?

The Dixie Chicks, like many in Hollywood and the music business, have a livelihood that depends on popularity. If they chose instead to bad-mouth the American *people* instead of just the President - or country music fans - they'd find themselves out of business. You can't insult your fans and continue to expect their adulation.

 

[Larry Gude]

Boy was that...

Natilie Maines can say whatever she wants and is entitled to any opinion she wants. In the same vein, I have every right to disagree with her as openly as I want. If I express my opinion and people disagree with it, then I'm not going to go and cry about it. If you are someone in the public eye, and you want to state an unpopular opinion, then you should be prepared to face the wrath of the people that made you the celebrity you are!

..easy.

Good show.

 

[Bustem' Down]

I don't "censor" them - I just don't listen to them, not even on the radio. I'm repulsed by their actions, and I'm just as free to turn the station as anyone else is.

I don't imagine you agree with this - try to imagine how you'd feel if someone was a declared bigot and racist and made songs about it - but - you used to like their stuff. Would it change your mind? I know some people won't listen to Gary Glitter's Rock And Roll Part 2 - the "hey!" song - because he's repeatedly been found with child porn and a convicted pedophile. Similarly, I know people who are totally turned off by all Michael Jackson stuff, for similar reasons.

Why should you spend your dollars to support someone whose views you hate?

The Dixie Chicks, like many in Hollywood and the music business, have a livelihood that depends on popularity. If they chose instead to bad-mouth the American *people* instead of just the President - or country music fans - they'd find themselves out of business. You can't insult your fans and continue to expect their adulation.

I'm not telling you to buy thier stuff. Don't, it's your choice. I'm saying the whole idea of "they're celebrities, so they can't speak thier mind to the public" is crap. They have a right to speak thier mind and you have a right not to buy thier stuff. That's the kind of thing that gives celebrities the idea that thier so much better than us that they can go on peace marches before a war.