Does this make you happy, too?

[This_person]

It sickens me that your belief that one’s right to free speech and expressions should be allowed to trample on another’s right to privacy and expression. Oh, you didn’t realize that a funeral is also a form of religious expression? That’s not surprising. The line must be (and it has been) drawn in the sand that separates the norm from fanaticism. There is no absolute right to anything. There are limits. Those limits begin with a basic respect for each other and when that level of respect has been diminished to the point of infringing on someone’s right to hold a peaceful AND PRIVATE ceremony they (the Westboro Church) have violated this brave soldier’s right to an honorable and peaceful funeral.

You far left wing kooks feel it’s your right to express your free speech while, in the course of exercising that right, violate another’s right to exercise their right to free speech. It’s a twisted and backwards mentality that must come to an end. You feel your cause so superior that it supersedes anyone else’s right to their cause. You’d abuse the Constitution as a tool to shut everyone else up that you disagree with. While you are exercising your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness you feel it is equally your right to trample on everyone else’s same rights. Nothing can be more arrogant and intolerable. This court decision finally says enough is enough with you disrespectful and intolerant bunch. Amen to common sense for once in our courts.

He's just a firm believer in objecting to anything just, right, and honorable. He objects to a parent providing support for their family, to a soldier standing and fighting for his/her country, to a president protecting his country from "convert or die" terrorists, to a country that wants their border laws enforced, etc., etc. He fights because he thinks it makes him smart, important, and gets him attention. He THRIVES on the attention it gives him.

I think he knows he's a waste of human flesh, an oxygen wasting load on society, and if he constantly spouts such opinions it gives him an excuse for the hatred he garners from responsible people - they hate him for his "controversial" opinions, not who/what he is.

This, of course, is just an opinion, and should not be taken as an insult or attack by anyone.

 

[PsyOps]

What kind of "christians" would disrespect a family at such a horrible time
in their lives? Nothing worse in the world than a death of your child.
Glad they won, but nothing will take away the pain that poor family
must have felt during the funeral of their beloved son!

The kind that are so selfishly consumed with their narrow ideology that they have lost the basic principle of Christ: Love your neighbor as yourself. These people are THE most extreme of this element.

 

[PsyOps]

He's just a firm believer in objecting to anything just, right, and honorable. He objects to a parent providing support for their family, to a soldier standing and fighting for his/her country, to a president protecting his country from "convert or die" terrorists, to a country that wants their border laws enforced, etc., etc. He fights because he thinks it makes him smart, important, and gets him attention. He THRIVES on the attention it gives him.

I think he knows he's a waste of human flesh, an oxygen wasting load on society, and if he constantly spouts such opinions it gives him an excuse for the hatred he garners from responsible people - they hate him for his "controversial" opinions, not who/what he is.

This, of course, is just an opinion, and should not be taken as an insult or attack by anyone.

And I swore I was done with him for this very reason. I don't know why I got sucked in to debating his pathetic form of misery. Some are so mired in their selfish purposes they can't see the logic in things anymore.

 

[This_person]

And I swore I was done with him for this very reason. I don't know why I got sucked in to debating his pathetic form of misery. Some are so mired in their selfish purposes they can't see the logic in things anymore.

I've sworn I was done over and over again, and I get sucked back in again over and over again. If you can figure out how to pay for someone to get by, and then not be offended by his lack of appreciation and his constant berating of everyone and everything that supports him, let me know.

 

[Plan B]

He's just a firm believer in objecting to anything just, right, and honorable. He objects to a parent providing support for their family, to a soldier standing and fighting for his/her country, to a president protecting his country from "convert or die" terrorists, to a country that wants their border laws enforced, etc., etc. He fights because he thinks it makes him smart, important, and gets him attention. He THRIVES on the attention it gives him.
I think he knows he's a waste of human flesh, an oxygen wasting load on society, and if he constantly spouts such opinions it gives him an excuse for the hatred he garners from responsible people - they hate him for his "controversial" opinions, not who/what he is.

This, of course, is just an opinion, and should not be taken as an insult or attack by anyone.

He just doesnt like your brand of kool-aid.
Love your last disclaimer!
Y'all bait folks of opposing views, then insult them. Then add your true 'Christian' views. Scribes...

 

[PsyOps]

I've sworn I was done over and over again, and I get sucked back in again over and over again. If you can figure out how to pay for someone to get by, and then not be offended by his lack of appreciation and his constant berating of everyone and everything that supports him, let me know.

Well if JPC is okay with using free speech to violate someone else's free speech I propose the moderator give us rights to cut JPC off in this forum in the interest of our superior need and right to free speech over his. I mean under his guidelines for defining free speech it's perfectly constitutional and actually necessary.

 

[This_person]

He just doesnt like your brand of kool-aid.
Love your last disclaimer!
Y'all bait folks of opposing views, then insult them. Then add your true 'Christian' views. Scribes...

Scribes?

Why did you put Christian in quotes?

How much of him have you read? I've discussed many a topic with him over a long period of time, have you?

I don't like Kool-Aid, by the way.........

 

[This_person]

Well if JPC is okay with using free speech to violate someone else's free speech I propose the moderator give us rights to cut JPC off in this forum in the interest of our superior need and right to free speech over his. I mean under his guidelines for defining free speech it's perfectly constitutional and actually necessary.

I like it.

 

[JPC sr]

Mr. Ferrari

Well if JPC is okay with using free speech to violate someone else's free speech I propose the moderator give us rights to cut JPC off in this forum in the interest of our superior need and right to free speech over his. I mean under his guidelines for defining free speech it's perfectly constitutional and actually necessary.

The funeral was a public event and there was no violence and no confrontation.

At least no violence in the question of their Constitutional rights for that incident.

So the funeral had its free speech and religious expression, and at the same time the protesters had their free speech and free religious expression.

I can not see how the Court could give such an unConstitutional verdict except that small town Judges are politically moved by the lych mob mentality of that population.

Here on an Internet forum you say your opinion and I give my perspective and we do so side-by-side.

 

[This_person]

The funeral was a public event and there was no violence and no confrontation. At least no violence in the question of their Constitutional rights for that incident. I can not see how the Court could give such an unConstitutional verdict except that small town Judges are politically moved by the lych mob mentality of that population.

Snyder's suit named the church, its founder, the Rev. Fred Phelps, and his two daughters, Shirley Phelps-Roper and Rebecca Phelps-Davis, 46. Snyder claimed the protests intruded upon what should have been a private ceremony and sullied his memory of the event.

Hmm, the people having the event thought it was a personal, private funeral. The criminals claim something different. I wonder who's right? (actually, no I don't, I know the people holding the funeral are right)

Seems a judge didn't decide this, either. Seems it was a jury. Of peers. Instructed by the judge on how to act, conservatively with respect to the accused. And, they still lost.

 

[Toxick]

The funeral was a public event and there was no violence and no confrontation.

A funeral is not a public event. The funeral is held in a church or funeral home. (private property), then the procession goes from there to the cemetary (also private property).

Unless it's a celebrity, or a politician, or a pope, or someonw that gets posed under a glass dome, and paraded all over creation, then it's not a public event. I've been to plenty of funerals. None of them were made into public spectacles. They are families trying to pay homage to their beloved dead and take them to their final resting places. They deserve - and should be able to expect - privacy.

And those who infringe on that privacy deserve to be punished for the damage they inflict.

Here on an Internet forum you say your opinion and I give my perspective and we do so side-by-side.

If you would logically argue points, instead of issuing your assertions and backwards platitudes, and deriving your "personal definitions" (i.e. manipulating language to suit your ends), this would be a lot easier to do with you.

 

[PsyOps]

The funeral was a public event and there was no violence and no confrontation.

At least no violence in the question of their Constitutional rights for that incident.

So the funeral had its free speech and religious expression, and at the same time the protesters had their free speech and free religious expression.

I can not see how the Court could give such an unConstitutional verdict except that small town Judges are politically moved by the lych mob mentality of that population.

Here on an Internet forum you say your opinion and I give my perspective and we do so side-by-side.

JPC… So #$%#$% what! Just because they happen to be driving down a public road makes it a public affair and thus you have the right to interrupt the proceedings with your twisted views? Please let me know when you are going to give one of your campaign speeches. I want to make sure I have a lot of anti-JPC people there to make sure we all get to exercise our right to free speech while denying you of yours.

 

[amotley]

my oldest wasn't able to join the military due to knee surgery he had, but most of his friends did. well in April we lost the first of his friends in Iraq and this group Patriot Guard Riders -->Home was there to keep unwanted reports and protesters out! they showed up on their bikes set up a flag line all the way in to his service and kept all unwanted guests out! they were really great people and showed great respect for the fallen solider. i do not think that when it comes to a funeral or memorial service for a fallen solider it is a good time to protest anything. the family needs to grieve and should be allowed to do so. if anyone wants to protest do so at your own place don't invade a funeral service to speak your crap!!! what ever your beliefs are, you should not go somewhere that you are unwanted and make a scene. I'm glad the judge ruled the way he did!! i only hope it stands and doesn't get overturned! i believe we all have our own opinions but we should respect everyone else's and use the right time to speak out and a funeral service for a fallen soldier is not the right time!

 

[Toxick]

Patriot Guard Riders -->Home was there to keep unwanted reports and protesters out! they showed up on their bikes set up a flag line all the way in to his service and kept all unwanted guests out!

AWESOME!!!

 

[amotley]

the first pic is the patriot guard taking the urn with remains from the funeral home to the place his memorial was held the second pic is of the flag line inside the memorial service they did 22 flags because thats how old he was. pretty neat orgnization if you ask me!!

 

[Plan B]

JPC… So #$%#$% what! ... Please let me know when you are going to give one of your campaign speeches. I want to make sure I have a lot of anti-JPC people there to make sure we all get to exercise our right to free speech while denying you of yours.

Y'all wrapping yourselves in the flag in order to support the war is pitiful.
What if JPC calls you Macaca at his rally?

 

[itsbob]

JPC… So #$%#$% what! Just because they happen to be driving down a public road makes it a public affair and thus you have the right to interrupt the proceedings with your twisted views? Please let me know when you are going to give one of your campaign speeches. I want to make sure I have a lot of anti-JPC people there to make sure we all get to exercise our right to free speech while denying you of yours.

We can make signs.. like

"GOD hates Free Loaders"

 

[PsyOps]

Y'all wrapping yourselves in the flag in order to support the war is pitiful.

Yeah I know Plan B... love of country and those that keep it free and expressing that appreciation is a dying cause for many of you that hate the thought of appreciating what you have and why you have it. Absolutely pitiful!

What if JPC calls you Macaca at his rally?

JPC can call me whatever he wants. Nothing would surprise me coming out of his mouth, nor yours.

 

[Go G-Men]

Well I do not agree at all.

I say the Court has made an unConstitutional decision.

Not just the right of free speach, but more-so the right to free expression of religion.

There are similar events where other funerals are protested but only this one gets sanctioned because of its religious stand.

I expect a higher Court will over-rule the decision as unConstitutional, and rightly so.

This group uses the basis of religion to disparage people they don't know. All they do is spew hate and in the long run they hurt families of soldiers who died defending this country. I applaud what the court and the jury ruled, actually it was not enough...

Also, there protest are not based on a religious stand they are based purely on hate.

 

[JPC sr]

Mr. Ferrari

my oldest wasn't able to join the military due to knee surgery he had, but most of his friends did. well in April we lost the first of his friends in Iraq and this group Patriot Guard Riders -->Home was there to keep unwanted reports and protesters out!

If there was a group like this in the link above then that was no private funeral as they paraded down the main street of town and beyond.

See "amotley's" pics HERE again.

The protesters have every right to be there and the Court decision is dead wrong.